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Mustard Iceman: Apr 8, 2015; Weak against ketchup

Blood Sword just can't be Two-Handed.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 00:04

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# ? May 28, 2024 09:53

Edward_Tohr: Aug 11, 2012; In lieu of meaningful text, I'm just going to mention I've been exploding all day and now it hurts to breathe, so I'm sure you all understand.

Mustard Iceman posted:

Blood Sword just can't be Two-Handed.

... Oh yeah. That too.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 00:07

Color Printer: May 9, 2011; You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...

My long grinding nightmare came to an end tonight. I feel much better after I threw a ragequit fit earlier this week. I finally beat fiesta with my Monk/Zerk/Ninja/Sam team which I utterly hated with all of my heart once I hit world 3

So excited I forgot the proper screenshot key and didn't even crop it right. level 43-45. I got that high cause I needed to get gil to just spam zeninage and shurikens.

Can my next run (chaos) be fun, please

EDIT: I just realized the screenshot I uploaded might not be good enough. kill me

Color Printer fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jul 17, 2015

# ? Jul 17, 2015 00:22

insulated staircase: Aug 21, 2014

will Omniscient still Reset if I kill him with an attack(Release) that normally triggers it?

e: nm, he doesn't! yay!

insulated staircase fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jul 17, 2015

# ? Jul 17, 2015 00:35

Sephiroth_IRA: Mar 31, 2010

Just beat the sandworm with the ol one two GOBLIN PUNCH!

I love this game.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 01:11

Tempest_56: Mar 14, 2009

Argh. Mammon is the only !Catch that causes Berserk, right? Where the heck are they in World 3? I need one for Shinryu and can't seem to find one any drat place.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 01:57

Edward_Tohr: Aug 11, 2012; In lieu of meaningful text, I'm just going to mention I've been exploding all day and now it hurts to breathe, so I'm sure you all understand.

Tempest_56 posted:

Argh. Mammon is the only !Catch that causes Berserk, right? Where the heck are they in World 3? I need one for Shinryu and can't seem to find one any drat place.

The roof of the castle in the Rift.

The same screen where you fight Twin Tania.

They're the rare encounter there, though, so either use the Quicksave glitch, or be prepared to cycle through a lot of random encounters.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 02:02

Color Printer: May 9, 2011; You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...

So kind Gilgabot _{(or, um, the guy who runs it)} showed mercy upon my soul this fine day* and my run got accepted.

Now Round 2 has started chaos style, and the first crystal is Beastmaster. That means I'm only getting Fire/Earth crystal jobs. I think this is....good????? Maybe?

_{*i actually did the fight again anyway just in case. it's a lot easier when you aren't getting while hole'd to oblivion over and over again the first phase}

# ? Jul 17, 2015 02:13

Bufuman: Jun 15, 2013; Sleep in the briefing room.
At your own peril.

So after getting Blue Mage and Berserker for my Random run (both classes I've gotten plenty of times), I decided to check my fire and earth jobs and then decide whether to job fair something off.

I got White Mage and Bard. DEFINITELY Job Fairing something now. This group will take an eternity to kill anything otherwise. The question is, what to JF? I've had Blue Mage more than any other class, Berserker and Bard I both had on my last run, and White Mage is pretty broken on its own. I'd just reroll the whole lot but my barren bank account wouldn't appreciate it.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 03:58

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Nihilarian posted:

(Is Breath Wing fire elemental of something?)

No, but Liquid Flame absorbs Wind, too. :eng101:

(Hope you didn't roll Geomancer.)

# ? Jul 17, 2015 04:05

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Crazy Triple Crown guy here with Sam / Dragoon x2 / Dancer update:

Farmed up 2 Dragon Lances, 2 rare Aegis Shields (didn't wanna do Fork with this team), 99 elixirs and level 61 and figured I'd give Omega a try.

It wasn't that bad at all, 1 shot him although I got pretty lucky blocking Encircle. I thought the CK Dancer would be the primary damage source but the consistency of Trident Jump did most of the damage in the mid 3k's. Took 30 elixirs but I'm used to where you can sneak in attacks and when you want to heal on Omega.

Shinryu died to a damage race (the two Dragoons were actually very useful) and NED died with a bunch of money in his face. Triple Crown 14 down!

# ? Jul 17, 2015 04:06

Tortolia: Dec 29, 2005; Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008; Grimey Drawer

Finally got earth crystal unlocked. Final party is Thief, White Mage, Mystic Knight and, uh, Berserker.

What should I aim the Berserker to have for his secondary slot?

And is there any hope for Omega/Shinryu with this lot?

Least I can load the MK up with Genji gear and 420 chicken Mug erry day on the Thief. AOE is a pipe dream though.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:09

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

Color Printer posted:

So kind Gilgabot _{(or, um, the guy who runs it)} showed mercy upon my soul this fine day* and my run got accepted.

Now Round 2 has started chaos style, and the first crystal is Beastmaster. That means I'm only getting Fire/Earth crystal jobs. I think this is....good????? Maybe?

_{*i actually did the fight again anyway just in case. it's a lot easier when you aren't getting while hole'd to oblivion over and over again the first phase}

Beastmaster is weird as all hell, but with some work it should deliver you a triple crown. (At least so long as you're not using the mobile version.) And none of the other jobs really suck, though Dragoon is a bit lackluster compared to some of the other jobs from those sets.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:11

Mountaineer: Aug 29, 2008; Imagine a rod breaking on a robot face - forever

Tortolia posted:

What should I aim the Berserker to have for his secondary slot?

And is there any hope for Omega/Shinryu with this lot?

Thief's Artful Dodger does good things for Berserker's speed. You might use !White for out of battle healing and later on it powers the Rune Axe.

White Mage makes Shinryu very easy with Berserk and Blink.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:17

Tortolia: Dec 29, 2005; Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008; Grimey Drawer

Mountaineer posted:

Thief's Artful Dodger does good things for Berserker's speed. You might use !White for out of battle healing and later on it powers the Rune Axe.

White Mage makes Shinryu very easy with Berserk and Blink.

Thanks. Do higher tiers of White provide higher magic bonuses?

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:22

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Tortolia posted:

Finally got earth crystal unlocked. Final party is Thief, White Mage, Mystic Knight and, uh, Berserker.

What should I aim the Berserker to have for his secondary slot?

And is there any hope for Omega/Shinryu with this lot?

Least I can load the MK up with Genji gear and 420 chicken Mug erry day on the Thief. AOE is a pipe dream though.

Yeah Shinryu is easy but you don't have offensive magic that hurts Omega nor a way around his evasion. You can get by his defense with the Mystic Knight but unless you want to reset until you get 6 hits through 95% evasion before you run out of elixirs you're out of luck there.

EDIT Yeah each rank gives you more.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:25

gbuchold: Oct 7, 2007; We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.; Pillbug

Having trouble with Archeoaevis as Thief / Mystic Knight / Bard. My damage output, especially at the beginning of the fight, is dreadful. Any ideas?

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:40

Nasgate: Jun 7, 2011

Tortolia posted:

Thanks. Do higher tiers of White provide higher magic bonuses?

Each tier gives you a fraction of the full mp of the class. So highest tier is equivalent to giving your zerker full white mage stats.

NGDBSS posted:

Beastmaster is weird as all hell, but with some work it should deliver you a triple crown. (At least so long as you're not using the mobile version.) And none of the other jobs really suck, though Dragoon is a bit lackluster compared to some of the other jobs from those sets.

What's up with bm on mobile? does calm not work on omega?

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:50

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

gbuchold posted:

Having trouble with Archeoaevis as Thief / Mystic Knight / Bard. My damage output, especially at the beginning of the fight, is dreadful. Any ideas?

Roll with one knight, two thieves, and a bard. Give your MKnight the Ancient sword and don't use any elemental powers. Put both thieves in the back row and give them each the long-range Crescent weapon. Have your bard toss hi-potions - if you need more, steal them from Poltergeists on the sunken steamship. The Avis's defense goes down with each form he switches to, so your damage will be slow at first but improve by the end.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:51

Dr. Dos: Aug 5, 2005; YAAAAAAAY!

Just finished the game for the first time ever. Had White Mage, Berserker, Geomancer, and Chemist. Got that triple crown as well thanks to Berserk + Blink for both superbosses.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 05:52

gbuchold: Oct 7, 2007; We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom.; Pillbug

Poque posted:

Roll with one knight, two thieves, and a bard. Give your MKnight the Ancient sword and don't use any elemental powers. Put both thieves in the back row and give them each the long-range Crescent weapon. Have your bard toss hi-potions - if you need more, steal them from Poltergeists on the sunken steamship. The Avis's defense goes down with each form he switches to, so your damage will be slow at first but improve by the end.

Thanks, did something like this (two knights one thief; you can steal Hi-Pots from Ronkan Knights) and got absurd luck with Elven Cape evades and that did the trick!

# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:01

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

derra posted:

Yeah Shinryu is easy but you don't have offensive magic that hurts Omega nor a way around his evasion. You can get by his defense with the Mystic Knight but unless you want to reset until you get 6 hits through 95% evasion before you run out of elixirs you're out of luck there.

EDIT Yeah each rank gives you more.

Using a knife (such as the Chicken Knife) does lower evasion by half, and white magic will allow healing for the purposes of sandbagging, but regardless it will still be a tedious fight in which you'll have to pray to not get targeted by Encircle.

Nasgate posted:

What's up with bm on mobile? does calm not work on omega?

!Calm is bugged on the SNES and GBA versions to not work on enemies with the Creature tag, rather than not working on anything without the Creature tag. This was fixed on the mobile version to work as intended. But then again, the ability was already situational as hell even before the nerf when compared to stuff like Romeo's Ballad and the like, so making the correction was yet another instance of misplaced priorities.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 06:13

Nasgate: Jun 7, 2011

Hahaha wtf, lightning/thunder doesn't seem to work on Exdeath on mobile.

On one hand, I like being able to play whenever and the presentation is great.

On the other, they do their best to gently caress over challenge runs.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 08:45

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Nasgate posted:

Hahaha wtf, lightning/thunder doesn't seem to work on Exdeath on mobile.

On one hand, I like being able to play whenever and the presentation is great.

On the other, they do their best to gently caress over challenge runs.

I guess they just added a special "gently caress you" to percentage-of-max-HP attacks, then. Or they made it something that won't affect you if you're Heavy. If it's the latter case, that spells interesting potential with Chemists...

# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:04

Mustard Iceman: Apr 8, 2015; Weak against ketchup

Did you check to see if it also affects Breath Wing and Blaze?

# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:36

Idioteque Dance: Jun 19, 2004; Dinosaur Gum

Currently trying to beastmaster the Soul Cannon with not a whole lot of luck, does anyone have suggestions on the best monster to catch for it?

Thanks to everyone who's dropped beastmaster tips already, I'd still be stuck otherwise.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:41

Mustard Iceman: Apr 8, 2015; Weak against ketchup

Idioteque Dance posted:

Currently trying to beastmaster the Soul Cannon with not a whole lot of luck, does anyone have suggestions on the best monster to catch for it?

Thanks to everyone who's dropped beastmaster tips already, I'd still be stuck otherwise.

With four Beastmasters, you can take out the launchers with two Stone Golems (Quake) and then hit the cannon with two Sand Bears (Strong Attack). That still leaves a lot of HP to chip off with the Blitz Whip, Main Gauche and Mage Mashers. You might need to use some Elixirs.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 09:48

Prancer: Nov 17, 2011

In the mobile version, the 25% of max hp on release monsters are not guaranteed to hit. The chance to hit seems to vary from boss to boss. In world 2 Exdeath, I had about 40 or so hits out of ~150 releases.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 10:40

Black Mage Knight: Jan 25, 2012; stop biting my cape

There was a point in time where I was thinking that I should just skip trying to go for the triple crown on this run, but it looks like Gilgabot decided otherwise. Also I am pretty happy that this didn't just end up being a random 750 run.

Black Mage Knight fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Jul 17, 2015

# ? Jul 17, 2015 11:45

Geocities Homepage King: Nov 26, 2007; I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?

Does the Rune Chime raise the damage of Holy by 50%? I looked on a final fantasy wiki and it just says it raises all elements but Water. The magus rod on the same site specifically says it doesn't raid water AND holy magic...

Edit: Also is there a good way to take on Omega with White Mage - Berserker - Geomancer - Time Mage? Can he be berserked like Shinryu can?

Geocities Homepage King fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 17, 2015

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:09

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

Is there an inherent benefit to the Magus Rod that I'm missing if I'm only going to equip it on a Time Mage that can't use any elemental attacks (Knight/Thief/Zerk otherwise)? I feel like it'd be better to equip the Judgment Staff for its higher magic power.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:17

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

For once, the FF Wiki is actually right about something, yes.

code:

WEAPON: Rune Bell
ATTACK: 45 + 10 (5 MP)        DAMAGE FORMULA: 3C
HIT%: 99                      CRITICAL%: 0
GB PUNCH/THROW ATTACK: 45     THROWABLE?: N
PRICE: 20000                  SELL: 5
ATTACK CATEGORY: Song         STRONG VS.:
STATS: 
MAGIC ELEMENT UP: Air, Earth, Holy, Poison, Lightning, Ice, Fire

(but seriously the FF wiki is dumpster garbage trash, stop using it)

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:23

NGDBSS: Dec 30, 2009

Seravadon posted:

Does the Rune Chime raise the damage of Holy by 50%? I looked on a final fantasy wiki and it just says it raises all elements but Water. The magus rod on the same site specifically says it doesn't raid water AND holy magic...

It does. Some of the fan sites may have editing errors such as that, but if you check the mechanics dump you'll find it to be highly authoritative.

Poque posted:

Is there an inherent benefit to the Magus Rod that I'm missing if I'm only going to equip it on a Time Mage that can't use any elemental attacks (Knight/Thief/Zerk otherwise)? I feel like it'd be better to equip the Judgment Staff for its higher magic power.

You seem to be correct about it not doing much for you, besides inflicting fire/ice/thunder damage on a hit instead of holy.

Question as well for the thread: Are there any good spots in the third world to farm for Turtle Shells? I know that Sea Devils drop it, but only rarely, and the other turtles seem to be specific to their respective worlds. (I'm a filthy hoarder who feels frightened by getting down to a mere ~45 in my current stash. :ohdear:

)

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:28

Kyrosiris: May 24, 2006; You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".

NGDBSS posted:

Question as well for the thread: Are there any good spots in the third world to farm for Turtle Shells? I know that Sea Devils drop it, but only rarely, and the other turtles seem to be specific to their respective worlds. (I'm a filthy hoarder who feels frightened by getting down to a mere ~45 in my current stash. )

Yes. Go here:

In the grasslands (where I am), you'll find the encounters similar to by the meteor near Karnak (that is, 35% 2x Grass Tortoise, 35% 1x Zu + 2x Aegir, 23% 1x Grass Tortoise + 2x Aegir, 6% 1x Zu + 1x Aegir + 1x Grass Tortoise).

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:32

Geocities Homepage King: Nov 26, 2007; I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?

Kyrosiris posted:

For once, the FF Wiki is actually right about something, yes.
(but seriously the FF wiki is dumpster garbage trash, stop using it)

NGDBSS posted:

It does. Some of the fan sites may have editing errors such as that, but if you check the mechanics dump you'll find it to be highly authoritative.

Awesome. Thanks guys.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:54

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Seravadon posted:

Does the Rune Chime raise the damage of Holy by 50%? I looked on a final fantasy wiki and it just says it raises all elements but Water. The magus rod on the same site specifically says it doesn't raid water AND holy magic...

Edit: Also is there a good way to take on Omega with White Mage - Berserker - Geomancer - Time Mage? Can he be berserked like Shinryu can?

Equip a Reflect Ring on someone and a Venom Rod on your Time Mage. Cast Quick, then Break the Venom rod on the reflect person, and just sit there.

Omega will die ... eventually.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 15:56

Ramos: Jul 3, 2012

derra posted:

Equip a Reflect Ring on someone and a Venom Rod on your Time Mage. Cast Quick, then Break the Venom rod on the reflect person, and just sit there.

Omega will die ... eventually.

Put the emulator on permanent fast forward and then go make lunch. If you don't have that, then just do it right before you go to sleep.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 16:31

KataraniSword: Apr 22, 2008; but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Ramos posted:

Put the emulator on permanent fast forward and then go make lunch. If you don't have that, then just do it right before you go to sleep.

As long as you post the screen of getting the Omega Badge, I think RK generally accepts it.

But no, seriously, don't expect Quickleaking to be quick (despite the name/magic used). It takes about 2 and a half to 3 hours in real time, which gets trimmed down to maybe a half hour on fast forward, if you're lucky.

# ? Jul 17, 2015 17:06

5-Headed Snake God: Jun 12, 2008; Do you see how he's a cat?

KataraniSword posted:

As long as you post the screen of getting the Omega Badge, I think RK generally accepts it.

But no, seriously, don't expect Quickleaking to be quick (despite the name/magic used). It takes about 2 and a half to 3 hours in real time, which gets trimmed down to maybe a half hour on fast forward, if you're lucky.

It took me about a half-hour on 600-700% speed (VisualBoyAdvance's fast-forward).

# ? Jul 17, 2015 17:15

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# ? May 28, 2024 09:53

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

Four minutes on ZSNES :smugdog:

# ? Jul 17, 2015 17:15

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