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Nonsense posted:The Cornerstone Speech was an actual thing that happened, and it may as well have been 9/11. It changed everything. Well, its not like Alexander Stephens wasn't saying anything that was not in the Confederate Constitution or even the Articles of Secession.
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evilweasel posted:I was pretty worried that Clinton had managed to spend 18m already. What the hell is she spending it on?
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Jul 17, 2015 15:11
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On Sanders volunteering: there was a call to host local organizing parties on the 29th. Sanders is going to give a Web conference. I'm hosting one because I've got a house and a ton of liquor so why not? It really seems like they weren't expecting any popularity across the country. They don't even know how they are Goin to handle the et/pt difference but hey everyone has to start somewhere.
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Fried Chicken posted:Hiring the IT guys that made OFA so effective and setting up an absolute fuckton of ground campaign setup. To give you a sense, in Iowa alone she now has 10 organizing offices, 47 organizers, and someone in all 1682 precincts That's reasonable, it's just worrying because the last Clinton campaign was bad with money and she's spending way more than anyone else. I suppose given that she's in a field of only two real candidates (Martin O'Malley is about as much of a threat as I am to win the nomination) that she can assume she'll get more money than the Republican filed which is more divided.
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Fried Chicken posted:Hiring the IT guys that made OFA so effective and setting up an absolute fuckton of ground campaign setup. To give you a sense, in Iowa alone she now has 10 organizing offices, 47 organizers, and someone in all 1682 precincts There has to be some white whale effect here too. A feeling among her senior staff that if Obama hadn't won Iowa they would all be easing into Clinton's lame duck years right now. e: not to say Iowa is a waste. But a loss here would certainly side track the inevitability train... again. fosborb fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Well I mean that and the OFA structure he put together along similar lines was huge in the general. Those offices never got shut down. If Hillary is big spending on that kind of infrastructure as opposed to cutting consultants like Penn large checks, I'm not worried about it. Sanders sticks around long enough for those offices to get built out in a bunch of states, Hillary gets dragged left a bit, but the primary remains high-brow, the infra remains in place with engaged people for the general.
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Tigntink posted:On Sanders volunteering: there was a call to host local organizing parties on the 29th. Sanders is going to give a Web conference. I'm hosting one because I've got a house and a ton of liquor so why not? I really wish I could do one of these but I'm in rehearsal for a play. Hopefully I can jump on the volunteer train late in August after it closes.
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Dr. Tough posted:A Trump supporter: I met someone like this, her dad was a Democrat and so she's a Democrat too.
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Jul 17, 2015 15:48
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My professional, educated coworkers think Trump is a great businessman who has the pulse of the American people. Does his constant failure just not penetrate the common consciousness?
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Jul 17, 2015 16:00
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:My professional, educated coworkers think Trump is a great businessman who has the pulse of the American people. Does his constant failure just not penetrate the common consciousness? Your educated coworkers are morons, and Trump is a great example of what morons think are successful people.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:03
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Alter Ego posted:Your educated coworkers are morons, and Trump is a great example of what morons think are successful people. I don't know, being pretty wealthy while providing absolutely nothing could be described as successful.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:04
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click this link, you won't be disappointed
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Jul 17, 2015 16:08
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Uh...hmm.  what the gently caress is he talking about? Is this reverse birtherism?
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Jul 17, 2015 16:12
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:My professional, educated coworkers think Trump is a great businessman who has the pulse of the American people. Does his constant failure just not penetrate the common consciousness? Also we can talk poo poo about his failure but at the end of the day the guy is rich as poo poo, had a successful TV series, and trades out model/actress wives on the regular, which is all a lot of people look for when it comes to success.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:14
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And he didn't have to work in the mail room of a trading firm while pretending to be a partner and sleep with the CEO's wife to do it. Bow bow. Chik. Chika chika
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Jul 17, 2015 16:16
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:My professional, educated coworkers think Trump is a great businessman who has the pulse of the American people. Does his constant failure just not penetrate the common consciousness? My father is CEO of a large non-profit and thinks Trump "isn't afraid to say what everyone is thinking" and "is a breath of fresh air." He voted for Obama the past two elections. Trump knows no boundaries.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:17
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And we all thought 2012 was going to be the acme of American political ridiculousness.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:18
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:My professional, educated coworkers think Trump is a great businessman who has the pulse of the American people. Does his constant failure just not penetrate the common consciousness? According to Trump supporters I've talked to, the failures actually enhance his image as a businessman - after all, if he managed to go from being bankrupt to being worth billions, he must be a great businessman!
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Jul 17, 2015 16:18
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Congressman Rey has a point. Gravel Gravy posted:And he didn't have to work in the mail room of a trading firm while pretending to be a partner and sleep with the CEO's wife to do it. Don't give away the Secret!
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Jul 17, 2015 16:19
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DaveWoo posted:According to Trump supporters I've talked to, the failures actually enhance his image as a businessman - after all, if he managed to go from being bankrupt to being worth billions, he must be a great businessman! You've met real life Trump supporters? What are they like? Do they look anything like real people, or do they have weird, bumpy skin and a low-level smell of potatoes & sweat like I imagine?
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Jul 17, 2015 16:21
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My goofball friends who have nice things to say about Trump insist it's because he is a Straight Shooter, as if being openly bigoted at least means he is honest, and thus deserving of something sort of like respect??? Straight Shooting is highly over rated.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:25
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I don't know a single person irl who thinks Trump is a legit candidate, why do y'all have so many dumbass friends?
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Jul 17, 2015 16:26
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Zeroisanumber posted:You've met real life Trump supporters? What are they like? Do they look anything like real people, or do they have weird, bumpy skin and a low-level smell of potatoes & sweat like I imagine? My mother claims she's voting for Trump but I can't tell if she's serious or saying it just because she knows it annoys me. Regardless the reasons are the same: he's not afraid to say what he's thinking, etc. Alternately my boss is a Pastor from North Carolina and told me that Trump is a jackass, so...
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Jul 17, 2015 16:28
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I think Trump best represents American ignorance, braggadocio, pigheadedness, etc and am probably gonna vote for him in the primary because it's funny but also because every other Republican is a wet blanket boring dude
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Jul 17, 2015 16:30
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Personally, I'm happy with how well he's taken off with the GOP base. It makes them look bad, and it makes the Republican Party look like a reality show circus.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:33
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mintskoal posted:My father is CEO of a large non-profit and thinks Trump "isn't afraid to say what everyone is thinking" and "is a breath of fresh air." He voted for Obama the past two elections. Trump knows no boundaries. Honestly, it is pretty refreshing to have someone in the race who says out loud what we all know they've been thinking for years anyways. Makes it easier to drag their terrible opinions and ideas out into the light so they can be destroyed forever rather than having decode dogwhistles.
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Zeroisanumber posted:You've met real life Trump supporters? What are they like? Do they look anything like real people, or do they have weird, bumpy skin and a low-level smell of potatoes & sweat like I imagine? zoux posted:I don't know a single person irl who thinks Trump is a legit candidate, why do y'all have so many dumbass friends? They're my parents  They support Turmp because they think America needs a "straight-talking businessman" who "tells it like it is". Plus, they've been fed a steady stream of anti-illegal immigrant hysteria from right-wing talk radio (e.g. KFI). They were also big supporters of Perot back in '92.
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zoux posted:I don't know a single person irl who thinks Trump is a legit candidate, why do y'all have so many dumbass friends? Cross-post from images thread 
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703 posted:Cross-post from images thread So, um, how are they going to report about stuff like poll results? "Jeb Bush in second place, right behind some guy we're not allowed to talk about."
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Jul 17, 2015 16:44
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OAquinas posted:Congressman Esteban Rey has a point. FTFY
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Jul 17, 2015 16:47
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All I know about Donald Trump pre-this thread (and the primary one), I learned from reading Bloom County as a kid and somehow I know more then most people who were adults in his heyday.
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mastershakeman posted:I think Trump best represents American ignorance, braggadocio, pigheadedness, etc and am probably gonna vote for him in the primary because it's funny but also because every other Republican is a wet blanket boring dude Trump sounds like the real life version of that Cadillac ELR ad that was basically American Exceptionalism.avi
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DaveWoo posted:So, um, how are they going to report about stuff like poll results? "Jeb Bush in second place, right behind some guy we're not allowed to talk about." A bunch of sports sections have already replaced "Redskins" with "the Washington football team", maybe they can do something similar. "The latest polls put Jeb Bush on top, followed by some idiot in a wig, followed by Scott Walker..."
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DaveWoo posted:So, um, how are they going to report about stuff like poll results? "Jeb Bush in second place, right behind some guy we're not allowed to talk about." I'm guessing they'll talk about him when he's part of a poll or when other candidates talk about him, but coverage of random statements he makes or things specifically about the Trump will go in Entertainment.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:50
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Just write "novelty candidate and unemployed reality TV star Donald Trump" every time.
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Jul 17, 2015 16:52
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DaveWoo posted:So, um, how are they going to report about stuff like poll results? "Jeb Bush in second place, right behind some guy we're not allowed to talk about." Yeah, if he was fizzling out as expected initially this would be a totally valid stance to take. But the rear end in a top hat's actually the frontrunner (of the month?) in some polls. They could be completely on point with his motives and plans, but when he's capturing a significant portion of the intraparty electorate his campaign has to be lent at least some credibility--if grudgingly so. Of course, that just opens up all kinds of "WTF is going on with the GOP" avenues of questioning, but clouds, silver linings, etc.
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mastershakeman posted:I think Trump best represents American ignorance, braggadocio, pigheadedness, etc and am probably gonna vote for him in the primary because it's funny but also because every other Republican is a wet blanket boring dude Trump is like the personification of modern America. I almost want to vote for him as a gift to future history students. Could you imagine reading about Trump's presidency a hundred years from now?
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Good Citizen posted:Could you imagine reading about Trump's presidency a hundred years from now? On what, cave walls?
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Good Citizen posted:Trump is like the personification of modern America. I almost want to vote for him as a gift to future history students. Could you imagine reading about Trump's presidency a hundred years from now? Assuming literacy survives. The oral retelling would be awesome though. "Trump, his hair spread wide. The Donald, when the walls fell."
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