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god bless
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Dave continuing his WON Feud of the Year case: I love salty Dave.
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 15:43 |
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 16:06 |
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He basically said on one of the shows with Bryan this is how Big Dave Cuts Loose
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 16:06 |
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my favorite dave is when he's tearing into busted ring girls for no particular reason
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 17:36 |
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Dave vs TNA for feud of the decade.
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 17:44 |
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not that i disagree with the sentiment but i wonder what is dave's deal is with guys walking around with replica belts since he's mentioned it several times
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 17:48 |
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Spermgod posted:not that i disagree with the sentiment but i wonder what is dave's deal is with guys walking around with replica belts since he's mentioned it several times Uhh it's lame? And I would assume that as many shows as Dave has been to that he's made a correlation between guys who act like douchebags & guys who walk around with replica belts.
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 18:31 |
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Spermgod posted:not that i disagree with the sentiment but i wonder what is dave's deal is with guys walking around with replica belts since he's mentioned it several times It's the gayest poo poo in the world
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:10 |
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Who the hell actually walks around with replica belts if they're not doing it for a Halloweeen costume?
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:21 |
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i'm not disputing that it just seems like a funny thing to repeatedly bring up out of nowhere
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:21 |
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Dave continuing his WON Feud of the Year case: big scott noooooooo
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:26 |
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epitasis posted:big scott noooooooo That Dave Meltzer, what a hoodlum.
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:32 |
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don't dive too deep on big scott it is a mistake i'll forever regret
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 19:35 |
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Mercury Crusader posted:That Dave Meltzer, what a hoodlum. Is this Scott fella a real person and not a gimmick account because he seems really awful.
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 20:07 |
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Mercury Crusader posted:That Dave Meltzer, what a hoodlum. #WhitePride *retweets video of an Asian lady getting hosed by a black guy*
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# ? Jul 18, 2015 21:04 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:It's the gayest poo poo in the world I'll have you know I beat replica John Cena fair and square.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 00:08 |
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dsriggs posted:#WhitePride So for the record you're criticizing this man for not being a whole-hog white supremacist
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 00:34 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:So for the record you're criticizing this man for not being a whole-hog white supremacist You've got to stand for something or you'll for anything.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 00:54 |
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Woman is the mark of the world.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 04:23 |
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Spoony Experiement wrestle mod posted:There's nothing vile about that. It's business. Calling that vile is on par with calling Pepsi vile for taking up shelf space that RC Cola could be filling. What's vile about being the one guy to generate more wrestlers with the potential to retire with less financial or medical concern than any other promoter in history? ROH wants to play in the big leagues, they're going to need to deal with cut throat poo poo. Why should he have to share? What does he owe a company that is actively striving to be direct competition to him, trying to take a portion of his and all o his employees' potential income?
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 05:08 |
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achillesforever6 posted:In response to the news to WWE loving over ROH when someone replied Vince (which honestly is wrong since its HHH) is a vile person. I wnt to say that was no leaf but that forum ave been making GBS threads on vince so mush they ret con the CM punk story that everything bad that hapend to punk was Vince's fault.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 05:44 |
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This isn't a 'wrestling fan opinion' sreally but I always loved a criticism Lance Storm made of heel AJ styles: "Heels don't need moves." He had this big rant about how heels shouldn't do moves except maybe a DDT because crowds like moves. In Lance Storm's mind, Mr. Pogo was the greatest heel worker of all time.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 05:46 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:This isn't a 'wrestling fan opinion' sreally but I always loved a criticism Lance Storm made of heel AJ styles: "Heels don't need moves." He had this big rant about how heels shouldn't do moves except maybe a DDT because crowds like moves. In Lance Storm's mind, Mr. Pogo was the greatest heel worker of all time. He said "cool" moves. If you want people to boo you, don't do flips, dives, or other high risk poo poo, because it'll get a pop. Lance Storm says a lot of stupid poo poo, but you're the moron here.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:16 |
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He said "heels don't need moves", that was the line, don't lie to me. Maybe he meant 'cool' moves but that's not what he said.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:19 |
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Lance Storm was at times intentionally boring enough that I genuinely could see him saying "gently caress the crowd, who needs moves"
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:23 |
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Also this is a silly fantasy land you're proposing wherein Lance Storm knows how to pop a crowd
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:24 |
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http://www.stormwrestling.com/012310.htmlquote:I also think AJ as a heel is a terrible idea because most of the appeal of AJ Styles is all the phenomenal stuff he does. AJ does cool poo poo and has great matches, so why would I want to boo him? The answer is I don’t. What a freakeing maroon!
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:32 |
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Right, that's absolutely what I was talking about, not the time he reviewed Impact with Alvarez and expressed this idea in the form of the line "heels don't need moves" And of course you only boo or cheer guys based on what moves they do. And AJ should have lovely matches and do lame stuff so we won't like him, I guess. I guess Kevin Owens is just about the worst heel in WWE right now because he does a lot of cool poo poo. DynamiteKidd fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jul 19, 2015 |
# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:34 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:Right, that's absolutely what I was talking about, not the time he reviewed Impact with Alvarez and expressed this idea in the form of the line "heels don't need moves" You seem to be guessing a lot of things here so I'm going to assume you're also guessing about the actual quote and don't remember the context or the meaning.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:58 |
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MagicCube posted:You seem to be guessing a lot of things here so I'm going to assume you're also guessing about the actual quote and don't remember the context or the meaning. No he's right, Lance said that exact phrase. I know because it's in the TNA review comps I've listened to a shitload of times.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:00 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:No he's right, Lance said that exact phrase. I know because it's in the TNA review comps I've listened to a shitload of times. OK then can you expand on the context and what he meant because Lance Storm has riled this fellow up so bad he can't be trusted to be impartial.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:01 |
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I listened to it today, this is the reason I mentioned it in the first place. That's the exact quote, I appreciate what he meant but when he called Bryan to record that Bryan-and-Lance-not-Vinny show he said "Heels don't need moves." Of course, I'm the fool here because we all know he was right. AJ never got over as a heel because of all the moves he does, just like Daniels or the Young Bucks. EDIT: I was riled up because you called me a liar, and don't seem to find the idea that 'having great matches is poor heel performance' ("He does cool poo poo and has great matches, why should I want to boo him?") silly. Jay Lethal, it turns out, was a lovely heel all along! DynamiteKidd fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jul 19, 2015 |
# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:04 |
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The context was the heel (Kaz, I think) getting the heat by doing a really sweet dropkick when his opponent was distracted, when he could have gotten actual heat by doing something that wouldn't have made people cheer. So when Lance talks about heels not needing to do moves, it is in the context of cool moves. Heels should do dastardly things so you actually care when the babyface makes his comeback. The things people like about AJ Styles, the things that make him a unique and worthwhile professional wrestler, are really cool moves that will get pops, so he shouldn't be a heel.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:09 |
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DynamiteKidd posted:So for the record you're criticizing this man for not being a whole-hog white supremacist denigrating other races/sexualities/whatever and then getting off to them as sexual objects is probably worse hth
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:17 |
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Avenging_Mikon posted:He said "cool" moves. If you want people to boo you, don't do flips, dives, or other high risk poo poo, because it'll get a pop. Lance Storm says a lot of stupid poo poo, but you're the moron here. no actually it's a really stupid loving outdated idea and only makes sense if you haven't watched ROH, NJPW, PWG or a bunch of other modern promotions where heels can have cool moves and still get over as heels. Are you goddamn BIll Watts
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:23 |
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Thank you, jeez. RVD was over as a heel at various points in ECW and he's the original spot monkey. AJ is doing his best work ever as a heel in New Japan. Bad Influence was a great heel team. The Young Bucks are hugely over as heels. Jay Lethal won the board's world champ of the month poll as a heel who 'does cool poo poo and has great matches." Heels also seem to exist in Dragon Gate despite the whole roster being "guys who do a million moves every match"
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:35 |
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This just in: a dropkick is a totally awesome move that pops the crowd when you're a heel. Source: Lance Storm, expert on charisma.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:36 |
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who is arguing that heels are supposed to have bad matchessticklefifer posted:This just in: a dropkick is a totally awesome move that pops the crowd when you're a heel. Source: Lance Storm, expert on charisma.
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 07:37 |
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sticklefifer posted:This just in: a dropkick is a totally awesome move that pops the crowd when you're a heel. Source: Lance Storm, expert on charisma. Also if you have great matches you shouldn't be a heel/are a lovely heel I don't know why we have heels if the best matches would be face-vs-face, since they're the ones who do cool poo poo and have great matches
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