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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress, Windows 10 is going to require all non-Enterprise users to automatically install all updates? That seems really foolish. Now I understand the line of thinking because it forces the people who only update once every 2 years when their grandson comes over to fix their email to update regularly. But this has to be going to far. I'm all for automatically installing security updates. But what about all of the "features" that Microsoft likes to throw in that I simply don't want on my PC? Little toolbars and 'friendly' reminders to purchase newer software. I can only imagine it's going to get worse with the emphasis on monetizing apps. And what about drivers for hardware? I NEVER use Windows Update to install drivers because they are, without exception, always outdated. I would doubt that it would automatically install all the things that come up in the "optional" category in earlier versions of Windows.
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:There isn't a So you're saying that me not caring very much about details that have little effect on me is the  position? That's got to be a first. I mean, I realize that the meaning of "sperg" morphed into "someone I disagree with who is kinda nerdy" years ago, but I think this is the first time I've seen someone apply it to a position that is the exact opposite of the original definition.
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Thermopyle posted:So you're saying that me not caring very much about details that have little effect on me is the Most humans actually care about how things they use look and feel, it's like there are professions dedicated to this concept and some companies even make it a priority, wonder how that's working out for them Happy_Misanthrope fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 18, 2015 |
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"Oh, you care about how things 'look' and 'feel"? Uh, I do work on my PC, guess that's why I doesn't affect me" 
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Jul 18, 2015 16:14
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GobiasIndustries posted:That's good to know, thanks! I got W7 installed, upgraded and confirmed my eligibility through the W10 app, but I can't install W10 now; I tried doing an upgrade using the 10240 build, but it told me that my serial wasn't valid and also said I needed to run the update tool via Windows instead of directly from the bootable USB I made. Then when I booted back to W7 to try and update there, I'm getting an error that the setup file isn't compatible with the version of Windows that I'm running (64 bit W7, 64 bit W10 ISO). I'd prefer to install W10 and be done with it now rather than having to wait till the end of the month, but I'm not seeing any other options here unfortunately. Oops, my post may have been misleading. What I meant is that I installed W7x64 on that laptop and used its OA key and am now just waiting for the full-retail W10 to drop. I hadn't tried 'upgrading' it to the technical preview or anything 
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:Most humans actually care about how things they use look and feel, it's like there are professions dedicated to this concept and some companies even make it a priority, wonder how that's working out for them Just so I understand, we're still talking about a few drop down menus looking different, right?
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:"Oh, you care about how things 'look' and 'feel"? Uh, I do work on my PC, guess that's why I doesn't affect me" Lmao jfc. Get over other people caring about different things. "Most humans" have different priorities
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Jul 18, 2015 16:55
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Hey this thread turned to poo poo quickly. God drat. Windows 10 chat: has any found any start tiles that are actually useful? Are there only MS ones that display information? It seems almost like there's a value there but I end up just using it as a quick launch area.
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Oops, my post may have been misleading. What I meant is that I installed W7x64 on that laptop and used its OA key and am now just waiting for the full-retail W10 to drop. I hadn't tried 'upgrading' it to the technical preview or anything Oh, well I guess it's a good mistake then! I'm an idiot and had somehow installed the 32 bit version of W7 by accident. I wiped, reinstalled 64bit W7+SP1 and activated, then upgraded to the W10 10240 release. After that I was able to do a clean install of W10 and it activated automatically so it looks like I'm good to go!
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Are there any useful apps in the store that are better than just using normal programs/websites?
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Walked posted:Hey this thread turned to poo poo quickly. God drat. I'm curious about this too. I guess I don't see much use for live tiles beyond notifications. cheesetriangles posted:Are there any useful apps in the store that are better than just using normal programs/websites? I prefer the Netflix app to using the browser. I haven't found many others that I enjoy using, however.
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:Most humans actually care about how things they use look and feel, it's like there are professions dedicated to this concept and some companies even make it a priority, wonder how that's working out for them Yes, I agree with this 100%. In fact, I am one of those humans! Unfortunately, it's not relevant. Happy_Misanthrope posted:"Oh, you care about how things 'look' and 'feel"? Uh, I do work on my PC, guess that's why I doesn't affect me" I'm sorry you feel that my post was intended in this way. Do you think there's any other way my post could be interpreted? If so, why do you think you interpreted it the way you did? (I'm not actually interested in continuing this discussion.) Walked posted:Windows 10 chat: has any found any start tiles that are actually useful? Are there only MS ones that display information? It seems almost like there's a value there but I end up just using it as a quick launch area. I looked for quite awhile. I couldn't find anything so I eventually just removed them all.
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cheesetriangles posted:Are there any useful apps in the store that are better than just using normal programs/websites? Nextgen Reader um ... Package Tracker?
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OK, so I need to get Win10 installed for work purposes. Unfortunately MS has removed the PC upgrade at this point. So I downloaded an ISO elsehow, and the installer gets all the way to starting the actual install, then stops at 18% with a simple error box "Windows 10 installation has failed" or something to that effect. Any ideas how to get Win10 installed at this point? I'm trying to upgrade a Win7 SP1 HP laptop if it matters.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Oh, well I guess it's a good mistake then! I'm an idiot and had somehow installed the 32 bit version of W7 by accident. I wiped, reinstalled 64bit W7+SP1 and activated, then upgraded to the W10 10240 release. After that I was able to do a clean install of W10 and it activated automatically so it looks like I'm good to go! How did you do a clean install of 10240 and activate it?
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I installed the insider preview thingy on my old thinkpad and it runs great, even works with the stupid lenovo only ati drivers from 2007. One irritation is that windows update keeps installing drivers automatically with no way to tell it not to. It keeps re-installing a wireless printer with all the extra stupid bundled software, is there a way to stop it from doing this? I've changed these settings  But the printer still tries to reinstall itself, is there any other setting I can change to stop this?
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cheesetriangles posted:Are there any useful apps in the store that are better than just using normal programs/websites? I think this is one of the things that put a big divide in how people viewed Windows starting with 8. Metro not withstanding, the apps are there, but when one is on a desktop or laptop, why wouldn't you just go to the website itself instead of using an app. They experimented with the same concept of a sorts in Windows 7 and the widgets. Now that I think about it, they started widgets with Vista. Now if you are on a tablet, at least to me, the use of it as a computer changes and it becomes more a portal than a use system. Where touchscreens on tablets, and even the few Windows phones, using apps and not having to type in a website address using the thumb keyboard, it is so much easier and quicker to tap an app and there it is. On a desktop or laptop though you have a mouse and keyboard, and it is the combination of both, and that we have been using that layout for many many years now, where just going to the website it self is not just easier in most cases, but what we are accustomed to. I had a chance to play around with a touchscreen laptop a month or so ago, and I did find myself using the touchscreen for app/program swapping, though that may be because I really don't like touchpads. I think the apps will arrive in a trickle over the next few months. Will it be like the Apple Store or the Play Store, maybe. On the game side I think it will faster than anything else. They did announce did they not that actual programs will start to be distributed through the Store. I also want to say I remember something about how they are trying to set a layout so that Android apps can easily be ported over to Windows, so that may populate the Store with more stuff. Even though Windows 8 started it, I think it is still in its toddler years and has to see if it is able to grow up and what will result. For right now, browse through and see if something interests you.
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Koskun posted:Now if you are on a tablet, at least to me, the use of it as a computer changes and it becomes more a portal than a use system. Where touchscreens on tablets, and even the few Windows phones, using apps and not having to type in a website address using the thumb keyboard, it is so much easier and quicker to tap an app and there it is. On a desktop or laptop though you have a mouse and keyboard, and it is the combination of both, and that we have been using that layout for many many years now, where just going to the website it self is not just easier in most cases, but what we are accustomed to. Even on a tablet, it was always easier to use metro IE than trying to find an app. It still amazes me how Microsoft killed it off for a browser with no touch controls. They're leaving tablet owners out in the cold. And the apps are never coming. The market isn't there. The developers can't be bothered. And the only support it has is either giant companies looking to land their apps on everything (Disney/Gameloft/etc) or people Microsoft paid. It just doesn't make sense to port to metro when every other market is so much larger and established.
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track day bro! posted:I installed the insider preview thingy on my old thinkpad and it runs great, even works with the stupid lenovo only ati drivers from 2007. The driver might be in your system's driver store already, so it doesn't attempt to retrieve it again. You can maybe use pnputil to remove the driver from the store.
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If I got an ISO of the insider preview and I'm already in the insider group thing, will I be able to get 10240?
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ThermoPhysical posted:If I got an ISO of the insider preview and I'm already in the insider group thing, will I be able to get 10240? Yes. Install the ISO you have than do Windows Update. Or if you want an unofficial iso of 10240 then here. http://microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-rtm-build-10240-iso/ Lowtechs fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jul 18, 2015 |
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Lowtechs posted:Yes. Install the ISO you have than do Windows Update. Or if you want an unofficial iso of 10240 then here. http://microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-rtm-build-10240-iso/ Awesome, looking for the ISO now. For some reason, it never got saved when I used it before... I'd use the 10240 one but there's apparently a lot of issues with the key not working and it being Enterprise and not Pro.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:How did you do a clean install of 10240 and activate it? I first upgraded an activated W7 install to 10240, then did a clean install of 10240. I didn't put any keys in during install and it looks like it auto-activated after everything was up and running.
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Call Me Charlie posted:And the apps are never coming. The market isn't there. The developers can't be bothered. And the only support it has is either giant companies looking to land their apps on everything (Disney/Gameloft/etc) or people Microsoft paid. It just doesn't make sense to port to metro when every other market is so much larger and established. I kind of agree here. While the market share majority of operating systems still belongs to Microsoft, how many people will use it? I want to play a quick bubble pop/endless running/angry birds game, I'll grab my tablet and go. My first thought doesn't go to "oh, I'll play that on my computer". The Android and Apple market share is there for mobile/tablet that can't be argued. Microsoft may just have enough clout still though to get something going. Whether it is used that is up in the air.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Awesome, looking for the ISO now. For some reason, it never got saved when I used it before... Well then wait till the 29th then.
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Koskun posted:I kind of agree here. While the market share majority of operating systems still belongs to Microsoft, how many people will use it? Apps have changed in Windows 10. They used to be annoying, full screen only, reduced functionality programs. Now you can window them and they seem (at least for now) more flexible. This changes apps from a complete afterthought to programs that are distributed through a safe store, with reviews, that are easy to install and uninstall, and, because they're tied to your account, they will be easy to reinstall whenever you do a clean install of Windows. I'm not saying they're perfect or that they'll replace desktop apps, just that they have a niche that they can fill.
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Holy poo poo if you care what things look like go buy a mac.
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Baloogan posted:Holy poo poo if you care what things look like go buy a mac. A lot of people do, and many of them did. That's why you see everyone under 30 carrying around a Macbook.
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xamphear posted:A lot of people do, and many of them did. That's why you see everyone under 30 carrying around a Macbook. I do occasional contract work in colleges and I rarely see students with macbooks anymore. Lots of regular laptops, though.
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Baloogan posted:Holy poo poo if you care what things look like go buy a mac. Too bad I couldn't marry a Mac Ha Ha Ha Ha
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xamphear posted:A lot of people do, and many of them did. That's why you see everyone under 30 carrying around a Macbook. You really really don't. Most people aren't going to spend over 800 bucks for a lovely mid range laptop.
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Diviance posted:I do occasional contract work in colleges and I rarely see students with macbooks anymore. Lots of regular laptops, though. I guess the one I work at is an outlier, then. Macs make up about half of our network traffic.
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Toast Museum posted:I guess the one I work at is an outlier, then. Macs make up about half of our network traffic. You probably work at an upper crust college where the average person there can afford a Mac.
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Segmentation Fault posted:You probably work at an upper crust college where the average person there can afford a Mac. I guess they (well, their parents) are finding a way to pay for the things, but no, it's a broke-rear end state school.
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Toast Museum posted:I guess the one I work at is an outlier, then. Macs make up about half of our network traffic. Do you keep track of how many devices connect, or just how much bandwidth is being used? I am just going by what I actually see in the hands of students.
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Toast Museum posted:I guess the one I work at is an outlier, then. Macs make up about half of our network traffic. Mix of culture, entitlement complex, and unlimited student loans.
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Diviance posted:Do you keep track of how many devices connect, or just how much bandwidth is being used? If I recall correctly, that was based on connections, not bandwidth. I'd be curious to see how the figures have changed over time, though. INTJ Mastermind posted:Mix of culture, entitlement complex, and unlimited student loans. And an Apple store in walking distance of the campus, which I think suggests to students (or their parents) that support will be easier to come by.
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