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MinibarMatchman posted:i'm glad steam refund is a thing that exists and this game was the sacrificial lamb to ensure maybe WB will loving QA test Mad Max. That game may be far too into development to have any changes from Arkham Knight be applied to it, but seeing as there still isn't a steam page of Mad Max when WB is usually very eager to get several month preorders going, it makes me a little worried that their answer is going to be no more steam games. But if it is just another Arkham Knight and they don't really cater to the PC version for the next several months, maybe WB's self exile from porting to Valve's store isn't the worst thing. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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chaosapiant posted:1. Seamless interiors/exteriors are loving awesome and how come no one has mentioned this? I didn't expect another game to get this right so soon after Witcher 3." I guess in a few cases, but generally it's "enter building, use suspiciously lengthy elevator to reach the main room". Technically a seamless interior, but really it's a loading screen by any other name.
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Jul 20, 2015 14:30
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chaosapiant posted:A couple of things about this game that I haven't seen mentioned that I find interesting: They didn't really, it's a big part of the problems with the PC release since it's accomplished by texture streaming, which is hosed up and their shoddy solution to was to slap a 30 fps limit on the game and hope it worked out somehow
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Jul 20, 2015 14:37
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Crabtree posted:That game may be far too into development to have any changes from Arkham Knight be applied to it, but seeing as there still isn't a steam page of Mad Max when WB is usually very eager to get several month preorders going, it makes me a little worried that their answer is going to be no more steam games. skipping a steam version of that would be hilariously bad press and would not encourage goodwill in the slightest
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Jul 20, 2015 14:43
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chaosapiant posted:A couple of things about this game that I haven't seen mentioned that I find interesting: 1. Eh. 2. I'm not sure I understand--which Bat-fam are you referring to? At this point, we've had 3 Robins, Batgirl, Nightwing, Oracle...those are the primaries. There's never been a mention of Huntress, so I guess she doesn't exist. The only other First Meeting besides ManBat that I can think of is with the perpetrator of the hanging bodies side-mission. Everyone else is established in some way.
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redbackground posted:1. Eh. Huntress is mentioned: 
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Huntress is mentioned:
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MinibarMatchman posted:skipping a steam version of that would be hilariously bad press and would not encourage goodwill in the slightest It really wouldn't hurt them press wise at all, the only issue would be lost sales from having less platforms supported.
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redbackground posted:1. Eh. I guess a better way to put it is that I didn't realize Arkham Knight was retelling stories from the comics. I mean yea, most of his bat-family is there. Also, apparently Damian Wayne does not exist in this universe. I'm having a hard time articulating my point. I guess up until now I hadn't really realized that the Arkham Series as a whole sort of existed in it's own world and is not really affected by the comics. Since Joker died at the end of City, I thought this series of events was a bit later in Batman's career and Red Hood/Red Robin might have already been established. I'd seen the previous Arkham games mostly as "poo poo Batman does" bookended by Year One/Year Zero: New 52 and Dark Knight Returns. Edit: also in this Arkham timeline, Knightfall I guess never happened? Otherwise Batman wouldn't be considering Azrael's proposition, since that poo poo already happened and got crazy. Like, I thought the Bane from Asylum was after he had broke-the-bat. chaosapiant fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 15:02
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chaosapiant posted:I guess a better way to put it is that I didn't realize Arkham Knight was retelling stories from the comics. I mean yea, most of his bat-family is there. Also, apparently Damian Wayne does not exist in this universe. I'm having a hard time articulating my point. I guess up until now I hadn't really realized that the Arkham Series as a whole sort of existed in it's own world and is not really affected by the comics. Since Joker died at the end of City, I thought this series of events was a bit later in Batman's career and Red Hood/Red Robin might have already been established. I'd seen the previous Arkham games mostly as "poo poo Batman does" bookended by Year One/Year Zero: New 52 and Dark Knight Returns. No, Knightfall did not happen. Complicating your own thoughts, Year One, Year Zero, and Dark Knight Returns don't even take place in the same timeline together. redbackground fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 15:08
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chaosapiant posted:I guess a better way to put it is that I didn't realize Arkham Knight was retelling stories from the comics. I mean yea, most of his bat-family is there. Also, apparently Damian Wayne does not exist in this universe. I'm having a hard time articulating my point. I guess up until now I hadn't really realized that the Arkham Series as a whole sort of existed in it's own world and is not really affected by the comics. Since Joker died at the end of City, I thought this series of events was a bit later in Batman's career and Red Hood/Red Robin might have already been established. I'd seen the previous Arkham games mostly as "poo poo Batman does" bookended by Year One/Year Zero: New 52 and Dark Knight Returns. This is correct. They draw heavily from the comics, but they are in no way bound by them. This Azreal is a completely different person than the one from the Knightfall comic, for instance.
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redbackground posted:Complicating your own thoughts, Year One, Year Zero, and Dark Knight Returns don't even take place in the same timeline together. I use Year Zero/Year One interchangably, since Year Zero and in general the New 52 origin stories keep most of the same story-beats intact as Year One. And since Year One is Miller, I consider TDKR the conlusion to "all the poo poo after Year One to Batman's Death" for lack of a better way of describing it.
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Yeah, the AK Azrael is kinda the Third Ghost of Batman one.
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Jul 20, 2015 15:18
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Huntress is mentioned: Wait, is that BC Black Canary? God, it would be so cool to see an aftermath game with the entire Bat-Family just trying to hold everything together after Batman's death
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Jul 20, 2015 15:19
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So a Battle of the Cowl game where you get to pick who you play as to be the heir to the throne and go around convincing/fighting the other rivals to the Bat Legacy. Oh who am I kidding, they'll pick someone specific and go from there.
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HaitianDivorce posted:Wait, is that BC Black Canary? Yes, if you look at the icons on the bottom you see one for Canary too. 
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Whatever they do next needs to fully implement dual mode. I want a game where you always have a partner. Maybe different characters have different skill sets/abilities and you pick who you want from there. There isn't nearly enough dual mode stuff in AK.
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Jul 20, 2015 15:32
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Levantine posted:Whatever they do next needs to fully implement dual mode. I want a game where you always have a partner. Maybe different characters have different skill sets/abilities and you pick who you want from there. There isn't nearly enough dual mode stuff in AK. It's extremely disappointing that they had such a cool idea and it gets barely fleshed out in favor of Batmobile.
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Jul 20, 2015 15:33
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ImpAtom posted:It's extremely disappointing that they had such a cool idea and it gets barely fleshed out in favor of Batmobile. I really, really like the Batmobile, but I'd trade it in for a fully fleshed out, game-wide dual mode in a heartbeat.
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Jul 20, 2015 15:36
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Thought about doing a new game plus in Arkham City. Loaded it up and was greeted by Windows Live not liking my password and said gently caress it. What a terrible system.
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Jul 20, 2015 16:53
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Did I share this already? This is a good video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2TiVdIjEtk
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Irradiation posted:Thought about doing a new game plus in Arkham City. Loaded it up and was greeted by Windows Live not liking my password and said gently caress it. What a terrible system. Didn't they strip GFWL out of City?
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redbackground posted:Complicating your own thoughts, Year One, Year Zero, and Dark Knight Returns don't even take place in the same timeline together. Seriously? First Batman graphic novel I ever bought was the leather bound omnibus of Year one, wanted: santa claus and Dark Knight Returns. Now I'm surprised.
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poptart_fairy posted:Didn't they strip GFWL out of City? They did, Asylum too. Anyone who owned Asylum and City on Steam should have had 'Game of the Year' editions with GFWL removed added to their accounts.
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Levantine posted:Whatever they do next needs to fully implement dual mode. I want a game where you always have a partner. Maybe different characters have different skill sets/abilities and you pick who you want from there. There isn't nearly enough dual mode stuff in AK. Despite what people did not like against the Batgirl DLC, they let you fight with Robin quite a bit. No dual predator which sucks, but it was really fun arriving on scene as Robin is already punching guys. I am 100% down for Origins 2 starring Batman and Robin (could be Dick or Jason). Or DickBats and Damian...if Damian exists? Tim then.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Did I share this already? This is a good video. That's a terrible video, and you're a terrible person.
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Veotax posted:They did, Asylum too. Anyone who owned Asylum and City on Steam should have had 'Game of the Year' editions with GFWL removed added to their accounts. So I just need to reinstall it or what?
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The Fool posted:That's a terrible video, and you're a terrible person. I know. 
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Jul 20, 2015 18:03
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Did I share this already? This is a good video. These videos all suck. Skin deep criticisms that often don't even make sense. "This diner is full of newspapers with hints towards future plot points?" Why is that a "sin?" It's called foreshadowing, and it's something good writers do.
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Irradiation posted:So I just need to reinstall it or what? Uninstall old version, install GOTY version which should have a separate entry. I just replayed AA and AC after finishing this one and they worked just fine. Also everyone on PC should try out that ini edit automator that dude on steam forums is putting out, it's pretty cool.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Did I share this already? This is a good video. It's an okay video. It eschews most of the discussion of gameplay flaws or design choices in favor of LOOK AT THIS PLOT HOLE! LOOK AT THIS MINOR COSMETIC PROBLEM!
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Jurgan posted:These videos all suck. Skin deep criticisms that often don't even make sense. "This diner is full of newspapers with hints towards future plot points?" Why is that a "sin?" It's called foreshadowing, and it's something good writers do. To my understanding, CinemaSins and its parodies generally switch between actual criticism and nitpicking for the sake of adding to the sin count.
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Irradiation posted:So I just need to reinstall it or what? Specifically the GOTY version, they're separate from the GFWL versions.
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The problem with those "everything wrong with X game" videos is that they missed the point of the "everything wrong with X movie" Cinema Sins series they are shamelessly cribbing, in that the "everything wrong with X movie" series is satire about people who over-analyze movies; the whole joke is that most of their criticisms don't actually matter or detract from your enjoyment (with a few legitimate criticisms mixed in). The "everything wrong with X game" videos take it in earnest.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Did I share this already? This is a good video. You'd be better off with the Red Letter Media criticism video, and even that still praises the game's story telling instead of the story itself in between screaming gently caress YOU to WB Games, the Batmobile and wishing Rocksteady actually tried to write a goddamn mystery for Arkham Knight if they wanted it be a shocking reveal. Well that and make the Knight be the central villain while Scarecrow is the aide-de-camp.
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Dogen posted:Also everyone on PC should try out that ini edit automator that dude on steam forums is putting out, it's pretty cool.  x 100I have actual regular textures on a regular basis now. I finally saw my first full-res breaker-box texture after using the app (3/4 of the way through the freakin game)--every single time beforehand it was a smeary yellow mess. Hav posted:Seriously? "Year One" was written shortly after the "Crisis on Infinite Earths" DC mega-event in 1985 that rebooted their entire universe, and was meant to establish the official Bat-origin for the DCU going forward (originally published in Batman #404–407). DKR (and its...interesting sequel DKSA) was Miller pretty much doing his own thing on the concept of the last Batman story. It, like these games, is separate from everything else. It's just SUPER POPULAR. (for completeness sake) "Zero Year" is Scott Snyder's take on the first year shenanigans of Bruce's Batmanning in the rebooted-again-in-2011 DC universe, and is a good source of quality modern Riddler (Batman #21–33). redbackground fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Did I share this already? This is a good video. the people who make these videos are joyless loving retards who love wasting everyone's time
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Crabtree posted:That game may be far too into development to have any changes from Arkham Knight be applied to it, but seeing as there still isn't a steam page of Mad Max when WB is usually very eager to get several month preorders going, it makes me a little worried that their answer is going to be no more steam games. There actually aren't pre-order pages for any digital version of it yet, regardless of platform.
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MinibarMatchman posted:the people who make these videos are joyless loving retards who love wasting everyone's time See also 'How it should have ended' and 'Honest trailers'. The scum of the internet. Made by scum for scum.
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redbackground posted:Pretty much. Thanks for the explanation. At the risk of creating a war, can anyone recommend Batman graphic novels _beyond_ Year One, Dark Knight Returns and Killing joke? I have more money to spend on comics now.
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