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Am I blind or did they make no changes to Alex NM's token system?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:42
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nuru posted:Am I blind or did they make no changes to Alex NM's token system? Correct.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:43
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Moldy Taxes posted:I don't know the prices, but my rough draft plan is to buy up the scrips gear for WVR LTW and BSM, and then use those to make gear for everything else as I'm able. That is my plan as well. Seems like the most efficient way to do it since 35 of the 40 left-size pieces are crafted using WVR and LTW, and 5 of the 8 main hands are crafted using BSM. Vermain posted:I'm honestly ambivalent about the i200 Paladin weapon, since it junks the Skill Speed on the Hive Shamshir for Parry (blegh!!). I think I'll wait for someone to suss the math out on it to see if it's actually a DPS increase or not. Isn't the general rule for weapons "If your weapon damage goes up, it's worth it"? I thought weapon damage was basically the most important stat for every ability to the point that it trumps other stats. Lumis fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 17:44
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Did I miss it on the patch notes or are you not able to convert Poetics to Law?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:45
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Are red scrips obtained the same way as blue - collectables?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:47
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Cabinet posted:Did I miss it on the patch notes or are you not able to convert Poetics to Law? Not until they basically do away with Poetics. You still need them for stuff in Mor Dhona.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:47
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KoB posted:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TbmBVks_f36Ytw7INoQkHYchB5_QSiYhGA4MCl0rhZ0/preview?sle=true Malloreon posted:Two pages back my dude Thank you for your help ^__^ forgive my scrubness
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Jul 21, 2015 17:48
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So is Savage Alexander actually savage or just like regular coil difficulty?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:51
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Unlucky7 posted:This. A thousand times this. The single most important piece of advice I can give for Rav or RavEx is to DANCE TO THE SONG OF RINGING STEEL. (Also switch to English VA, it's better than the Japanese unless you can actually understand it.)
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Jul 21, 2015 17:53
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KoB posted:Not until they basically do away with Poetics. You still need them for stuff in Mor Dhona. Oh! I thought they were done away with with Eso.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:54
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Fate buff and BLM buff. I like.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:54
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Lumis posted:That is my plan as well. Seems like the most efficient way to do it since 35 of the 40 left-size pieces are crafted using WVR and LTW, and 5 of the 8 main hands are crafted using BSM. I've been thinking some more about it, and I'm starting to get queasy thinking about all the melding I'll need to do. Might just settle for scrips everything except for tools and my specialists. Guess I'm not a pro crafter 
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Jul 21, 2015 17:57
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Lumis posted:Isn't the general rule for weapons "If your weapon damage goes up, it's worth it"? I thought weapon damage was basically the most important stat for every ability to the point that it trumps other stats. That is generally the rule yes. The last time I heard about it, weapon damage was something like 20 to 30 times more important than mainstat per point, which is in turn several times more important than other stats. I don't think it is currently possible to jam enough skillspeed onto a weapon to offset two points of weapon damage increase. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current best use of esoterics is to save it to buy a weapon on week three unless your eso weapons is incredibly lovely and you have a4s on farm by then.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:03
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Mordiceius posted:I'm an omnicrafter who just with HW started getting really into crafting. I've never touched desynthesis and as for gil, I generally fluctuate between 1 to 5 million gil depending on what I'm doing and how things are selling. Basically, am I hosed? Omnicrafter doesn't mean "I had every craft at level 50" you know. It means you were doing 3-4 stars on every craft.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:04
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As a cheap and lazy "omnicrafter", I expect I'll be slowly and gradually getting myself scrips gear while churning out materials that the spendier true-omnicrafters will want to use. Mostly because gently caress melding and gently caress desynthesis.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:07
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Calihan posted:Man, doing Ravana for the first time via Duty Finder is an exercise in frustration. Granted we had both a MCH and BRD to gum up the DPS a little but seriously, how hard is it to kill some frigging butterflies? Did you also have a tank that kept facing cleaves towards the party, and at the end of the fight where Ravana starts cleaving over and over the tank started running laps around the arena so Ravana would cleave everyone? Vil posted:gently caress melding and gently caress desynthesis. (Same) E: The AST changes are pretty nice, if they would allow us to dance between the sects I'd have no complaints about the class. Leal fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 18:10
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Lumis posted:Also, doesn't look like the gatherer's gear has a craftable equivalent to their i180 gear. As a gatherer stuck at work, im curious what you mean by this. The crafter situation is i180 scrip gear for those too poor to Meld the HQ crafted i170. That's not the case with gathering? Is our only option the i180 scrip stuff? What's the situation with crafting/gathering right side?
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Jul 21, 2015 18:16
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It's looking like it'll take 9-10 weeks PER class to get all the crafter scrip gear if you're maxing your scrips every week. So yeah, it's completely not feasible to plan on gearing out more than 2 or 3 classes with scrip gear, and you MIGHT have that done close to the time the next expansion comes out. If you're putting scrip gear on all the classes, you're looking at 1.5 years of capping EVERY week.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:18
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Vahalla posted:As a gatherer stuck at work, im curious what you mean by this. The crafter situation is i180 scrip gear for those too poor to Meld the HQ crafted i170. That's not the case with gathering? Is our only option the i180 scrip stuff? Both crafters and gatherers get i170 crafted rightside. There is no scrip rightside at all. Only crafters get i170 crafted leftside.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:20
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Vahalla posted:As a gatherer stuck at work, im curious what you mean by this. The crafter situation is i180 scrip gear for those too poor to Meld the HQ crafted i170. That's not the case with gathering? Is our only option the i180 scrip stuff? A quick look at Garlond Tools and the Lodestone shows only i180 left side "xkeep" for gatherers, none of which are crafted.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:22
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Mordiceius posted:It's looking like it'll take 9-10 weeks PER class to get all the crafter scrip gear if you're maxing your scrips every week. So yeah, it's completely not feasible to plan on gearing out more than 2 or 3 classes with scrip gear, and you MIGHT have that done close to the time the next expansion comes out. This is assuming they don't add new tiers of crafting gear and scrip like they do with combat gear and tomes.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:24
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Vahalla posted:As a gatherer stuck at work, im curious what you mean by this. The crafter situation is i180 scrip gear for those too poor to Meld the HQ crafted i170. That's not the case with gathering? Is our only option the i180 scrip stuff? It doesn't appear there is "craftable, meldable i170" gear for gatherers, no. At least, not according to Lodestone. Garlandtools also doesn't list any upgrades for it, unlike the i180 crafter gear which lists the i170 stuff as an upgrade (due to higher stat caps). Right-side has new crafted and meldable gear for both gatherers and crafters, though. They are two-star recipes that seemingly require at least the i180 crafting stuff to get the stats for.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:25
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Ohtsam posted:This is assuming they don't add new tiers of crafting gear and scrip like they do with combat gear and tomes. Absolutely. The point of my post is that it won't be possible to gear more than 2-3 classes and that is if you max every week and ONLY spend the scrips on gear.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:26
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Lumis posted:Right-side has new crafted and meldable gear for both gatherers and crafters, though. They are two-star recipes that seemingly require at least the i180 crafting stuff to get the stats for. It's possible to hit the stat caps if you're wearing HQ i150, it just requires a huge amount of melding. EDIT: Wearing unmelded HQ i150 Leftside/Offhand, and my old melded i55 jewelery, I have 661/628. You need 718/695. Saigyouji fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 18:29
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As a reminder, even if you (like me) plan to skimp out on the blatantly superior crafted left side stuff for scrip gear, prepare to get hosed anyway on the new jewelry and belt recipes that were added to go along with this nonsense.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:31
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The impression that I am getting is that they reeeeeeeally don't want people to focus on omnicrafting and would heavily prefer people pick certain crafts to specialize in.Saigyouji posted:It's possible to hit the stat caps if you're wearing HQ i150, it just requires a huge amount of melding. Is it? I'll have to look into this then and do the math. Failboattootoot posted:As a reminder, even if you (like me) plan to skimp out on the blatantly superior crafted left side stuff for scrip gear, prepare to get hosed anyway on the new jewelry and belt recipes that were added to go along with this nonsense. It's even worse than people think, too, because the majority of the new recipes require items that need scrip-purchased items to make, like Raziqcoat for Aurum Regis Ingots and so on. So even if you don't wanna spend your red scrips on the gear, you will have to spend them on materials to make the crafted gear with assuming you don't buy the going-to-be-heavily-price-gouged ones from the market, and since there's a weekly limit to the red scrips you can get... yeah. Like I said, crafters/gatherers have a long grind, so please look forward to it.  Lumis fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 18:32
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Leal posted:E: The AST changes are pretty nice, if they would allow us to dance between the sects I'd have no complaints about the class. I hope they never make that possible. Flat out. Never.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:36
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Quick napkin maths: Across the i150 leftside (and i140 belt), you can meld a total of 65 control, 24 CP, and 74 craft. This does not include offhands or mainhands.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:39
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Does anyone know how many esoterics an expert dungeon gives without the daily bonus?
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Jul 21, 2015 18:40
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Farg posted:Does anyone know how many esoterics an expert dungeon gives without the daily bonus? 40.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:41
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So 4 days with trials, that sounds easy to do. Wouldn't mind doing some ex runs again.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:45
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nuru posted:I hope they never make that possible. Flat out. Never. I agree with this just because It would mess up my hotbars if I needed to constantly switch. Astrologian is almost in a really good place, though If it was my call I would make the following adjustments: 1. Change shuffle so you can't redraw the same card. 2. Increase the strength of Nocturnal Stance's shields to be at least as good as an non-crit Galvanize. 3. Change the Spear card so that it reduces the cooldowns of skills that are already on cooldown, instead of skills used when you have the buff. (This might be an engine limitation or something.) 4. Change collective unconscious so you can move and heal without it disappearing.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:45
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Paladin Sword is 695 Esoterics. Maybe I should've gone for the 5 week plan instead of the 7 week after all...
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Jul 21, 2015 18:45
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I'm somewhat curious what exactly people expected when they featured all the crafter AF in the HW previews. Did y'all really think they were gonna put a Patrician's equivalent on the Red Scrip trader?
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Jul 21, 2015 18:52
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The room screenshots make me sad that I have neither the funds to buy one (I'm not really a crafter) nor do they ever open up. Should I just cave and buy a private chamber?
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Jul 21, 2015 18:56
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I'm assuming for WAR the optimal path will be weapon > chest > legs since the Alex normal versions of those are poopy. Too bad about the front loaded 3 dry weeks for the weapon though. My stubbornness of not bothering to get drops from Alex is gonna bite me when people start putting i185 gates on Bismarck and Ravana pfs
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Jul 21, 2015 18:56
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Someone on reddit is mad about what this system means for gatherers:quote:New crafting recipes which use the legendary nodes are hard gated behind Purified Coke, and require 5x purified coke per, while only requiring a small amount of the new legendary materials (No more than 2 different materials, of which it's usally 1x of, rarely 2x). The Purified Coke, what recipes involve those? I can't wait until someone does the full breakdown of crafting and how this is all going to shake out.
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Jul 21, 2015 18:57
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Lumis posted:It doesn't appear there is "craftable, meldable i170" gear for gatherers, no. At least, not according to Lodestone. Garlandtools also doesn't list any upgrades for it, unlike the i180 crafter gear which lists the i170 stuff as an upgrade (due to higher stat caps). Hmmm. So as someone who has enough melded right-side from 2.x to hit 600 GP pre-food, it seems like the best call is going to be focusing on buying our leftside with scrip (and start banking Gil) while we wait for crafters to geared enough, then have rightside crafted and melded after?
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Jul 21, 2015 19:00
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Farg posted:I'm assuming for WAR the optimal path will be weapon > chest > legs since the Alex normal versions of those are poopy. Too bad about the front loaded 3 dry weeks for the weapon though. My stubbornness of not bothering to get drops from Alex is gonna bite me when people start putting i185 gates on Bismarck and Ravana pfs It's actually worse than that - Weapon + anything else actually takes four weeks, since the lowest combined total is 1365 tomes. I think i'm going to be going Chest -> Accessory -> Weapon, which you finish up in 5 weeks.
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ApplesandOranges posted:The room screenshots make me sad that I have neither the funds to buy one (I'm not really a crafter) nor do they ever open up. Those were pictures of private rooms in the fc house, not of private houses. So yes, if you liked those pictures you should buy one
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