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With the train hat and now the elevator room, it reminds me way too much of this xkcd comic. https://xkcd.com/1366/
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cliffdiver posted:
No I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works, if you noclip out of the elevator you can see it's stationary while the room moves. It's an old trick but it still works. Most games can just make moving level geometry have proper collision nowadays. BenRGamer posted:With the train hat and now the elevator room, it reminds me way too much of this xkcd comic. Anthropocentric transport is perfectly legitimate.
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Jul 21, 2015 21:46
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its all just numbers guys
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Jul 21, 2015 21:56
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Considering how fragile the Skyrim opening cart ride sequence is I'm not surprised they had to trick it's predecesors' game engines to make it look like you're moving.
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Jul 21, 2015 22:36
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homeless poster posted:i guess that kind of makes sense in-engine, because now i can't recall either FO3 or NV having any kind of movable object that does horizontal or vertical movement. any time you "use" an elevator it just teleports you to a different cell, and other than certain doors being able to swing open, there's not another situation where you even see a movable object. It's interesting because the Ayleid Ruins in Oblivion are full of traps that rely on large areas rapidly ascending/descending into spike pits, and I thought some of the areas in the planes of Oblivion had elevators or columns that ascended/descended.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:24
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7c Nickel posted:Seriously though, after his death Bethesda put together a nice memorial page that includes every bit of his concept art they could find and scan. It includes 809 ones for Fallout which are pretty great to thumb through. what the gently caress happened? did they decide to just ignore all of this dude's concepts for Oblivion or what? That game could've looked great if they had used even one of his ideas. edit: Also, have they said anything regarding a car? We had a car in the originals, they're giving us a crazy helicopter thing, surely we can actually use some of the fuel we find around and put it into our cars. I'm not asking for Mad Max, just a lovely old car with a little trunk that will let me drive around the wastelands and break down a lot, usually coinciding with some unfortunate/exciting event. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 23:38
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Khanstant posted:what the gently caress happened? did they decide to just ignore all of this dude's concepts for Oblivion or what? That game could've looked great if they had used even one of his ideas. It says Oblivion DLC, and those art kinda look like things you see in Shivering Isles, which does look look good in game.
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Jul 22, 2015 00:09
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Khanstant posted:what the gently caress happened? did they decide to just ignore all of this dude's concepts for Oblivion or what? That game could've looked great if they had used even one of his ideas. They did. Those are concepts for the Oblivion DLC. Most people think they turned out higher quality than the base game.
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Jul 22, 2015 00:10
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Magmarashi posted:What's the point, then? That's all the fun of a double-barrel. It'd be kinda nice to have the choice of either firing one barrel at a time or both whenever you want  Also there's an automatic shotgun in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5H7Qq8quKg Around 10m10s, but you don't get to see much of it. Seems to smash up a synth's head pretty nicely, though.
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Jul 22, 2015 00:16
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Capn Beeb posted:It'd be kinda nice to have the choice of either firing one barrel at a time or both whenever you want That video also seems to show the synth have destructible armor.
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[quote="Khanstant" post="448020566"] what the gently caress happened? did they decide to just ignore all of this dude's concepts for Oblivion or what? That game could've looked great if they had used even one of his ideas. /quote] His Fallout concepts were much better than anything in the game, too. I guess he just created things that were way beyond the technical limitations of the consoles, or even the engine itself.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:08
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:It's interesting because the Ayleid Ruins in Oblivion are full of traps that rely on large areas rapidly ascending/descending into spike pits, and I thought some of the areas in the planes of Oblivion had elevators or columns that ascended/descended. the only thing i can figure is that in all of those ruin traps, the actual geometry is just expanding / contacting, but the overall effect is that a square peg just gets a lot longer briefly. this is probably a lot less technically intensive than have to create a separate object that behaves believably within the context of the game relative to gravity and x/y/z motion and etc. i mean hell, horses in skyrim at launch were all terrain vehicles that could climb 90 degree inclines, so i can imagine trying to create anything more complicated than that would be too difficult for t-hod and crew
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Jul 22, 2015 01:20
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chitoryu12 posted:That video also seems to show the synth have destructible armor. With armour being more layer based it looks like all enemy types and armour types can be picked apart. You also see pieces of armour being shot off a Super Mutant and pieces being blown off a BoS Paladin's power armour when you hit it with a missile. I suspect that will be part of the gameplay, where you need to weaken a heavily armoured opponent before you can really kill them.
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Jul 22, 2015 01:25
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Psychotic Weasel posted:With armour being more layer based it looks like all enemy types and armour types can be picked apart. You also see pieces of armour being shot off a Super Mutant and pieces being blown off a BoS Paladin's power armour when you hit it with a missile. I suspect that will be part of the gameplay, where you need to weaken a heavily armoured opponent before you can really kill them. God I hope so.
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7c Nickel posted:They did. Those are concepts for the Oblivion DLC. Most people think they turned out higher quality than the base game. Shivering Isles was genuinely better than the main game, but Kights of the 9 just seemed like a waste of time and money.
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Father Wendigo posted:Shivering Isles was genuinely better than the main game, but Kights of the 9 just seemed like a waste of time and money. I didn't get NotN, but I heard it was pretty good if you lined it up with playing a Templar style character.
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Capn Beeb posted:It'd be kinda nice to have the choice of either firing one barrel at a time or both whenever you want The video shows said gun being used as a sniper rifle, shotgun, and SMG. Weird.
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Jul 22, 2015 03:44
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Bholder posted:It says Oblivion DLC, and those art kinda look like things you see in Shivering Isles, which does look look good in game. Oh wow. I was so pissed when it released and deuced out, don't think I heard of that one over all the lol horsearmour at the time. I'm not sure I've kept the discs this long, though. Still have some stupid coin though. Back Hack posted:The video shows said gun being used as a sniper rifle, shotgun, and SMG. Weird. Deus Ex 2 had universal ammo, isn't time we tried universal gun? Khanstant fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 03:51
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Khanstant posted:Oh wow. I was so pissed when it released and deuced out, don't think I heard of that one over all the lol horsearmour at the time. I'm not sure I've kept the discs this long, though. Still have some stupid coin though. Nothing but mods can truly save Oblivion all the way (and I say this as someone who loves it and completed all of its quests), but Shivering Isles is definitely the best part of it. It is designed to make fun of people like me by including three "fetch a bunch of random items that will take you hundreds of hours" quests and putting them in the part of the Madgod's realm dedicated to obsession, and contains one of the two quests I cheated on, in which you have to deliver a hundred calipers to an orc, and get basically no reward for it. The flavor of the Isles and the lore is some of the best in the series, though (although I don't hate Elder Scrolls storytelling as much as most of the thread, so take that with a grain of salt).
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I'm going to be a little controversial here and say I am super excited for this game.
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So I read a thing on The Internet that apparently every language is going to have it's own voice acting for the main character. Any guesses on how much space this game is going to wind up taking up on the old hard drive?
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I'm excited to see if Fallout 4 is only a financial success or if it actually also delivers in gameplay too.Nuebot posted:So I read a thing on The Internet that apparently every language is going to have it's own voice acting for the main character. Any guesses on how much space this game is going to wind up taking up on the old hard drive? Oh it's definitely going to be a fat 30-50 gbs at the least. But I doubt that they'll comfortably have every language present and not say several core languages and different subtitles or maybe downloadable language packs.
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Nuebot posted:So I read a thing on The Internet that apparently every language is going to have it's own voice acting for the main character. Any guesses on how much space this game is going to wind up taking up on the old hard drive? A lot less than you might think since it's all at 96 kbps.
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Nuebot posted:So I read a thing on The Internet that apparently every language is going to have it's own voice acting for the main character. Any guesses on how much space this game is going to wind up taking up on the old hard drive? For Skyrim and New Vegas, Steam only downloads the language you've selected, so this isn't a problem.
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Jul 22, 2015 06:43
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Lol if you don't have an entire hdd dedicated to all the mods your going to want anyway
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I proudly told the night shift Wal-Mart employee that this WD Passport was for "about seventy gigabytes of Fallout mods", but they seemed offended by the idea that I would store backup copies of mods offline because it didn't give proper support to modders and the modding community. That's a pretty naive opinion to have, considering I'll be able to sell copies of all of these mods the next time Bethesda and Steam strike up a monetized modding agreement. Molerat Boobs and killable kid mods are the new gold and silver.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I proudly told the night shift Wal-Mart employee that this WD Passport was for "about seventy gigabytes of Fallout mods", but they seemed offended by the idea that I would store backup copies of mods offline because it didn't give proper support to modders and the modding community. That's a pretty naive opinion to have, considering I'll be able to sell copies of all of these mods the next time Bethesda and Steam strike up a monetized modding agreement. Molerat Boobs and killable kid mods are the new gold and silver. gently caress "modders rights" in all ways. I always store big archives of mods for this exact reason, the Minecraft Modding community has taught this lesson painfully. There is always going to be some modder spoiled princess, that will pull their mods for drama reasons, or change everything around "for my vision" and get rid of all the links to the older superior version. When poo poo like that happens I really enjoy having a backup copy, not only for myself but to share with other frustrated users.
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Look, the important thing is that Train Head needs to be some sort of pyramidhead-esque joke character in Fallout 4. I don't care if we have to mod it in, but I need to see Train Head just plow through super mutants while running super fast along a track.
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Back Hack posted:The video shows said gun being used as a sniper rifle, shotgun, and SMG. Weird. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVsQToSfag&t=30s
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TontoCorazon posted:I'm going to be a little controversial here and say I am super excited for this game. Me too, TontoCorazon.
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Rutibex posted:gently caress "modders rights" in all ways. I always store big archives of mods for this exact reason, the Minecraft Modding community has taught this lesson painfully. There is always going to be some modder spoiled princess, that will pull their mods for drama reasons, or change everything around "for my vision" and get rid of all the links to the older superior version. When poo poo like that happens I really enjoy having a backup copy, not only for myself but to share with other frustrated users. Yep. Gotta have all 15 versions of "Realistic Horse Vaginas".
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JackBadass posted:Yep. Gotta have all 15 versions of "Realistic Horse Vaginas". Of course, version 13 only had the horse vaginas I needed. After version 14 that all changed, the mod author started adding vaginas to chickens and Argonians and all other sorts of things that didn't need them! That's fine for someone that wants a lot of vaginas in their game, but I am after only the immersion of realistic horse vaginas and I don't appreciate the feature creep. The author removed all the previous versions, telling the community if you don't want chicken vaginas then you aern't getting any vaginas at all! Thank god I kept a backup of version 13!
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Rutibex posted:Of course, version 13 only had the horse vaginas I needed. After version 14 that all changed, the mod author started adding vaginas to chickens and Argonians and all other sorts of things that didn't need them! That's fine for someone that wants a lot of vaginas in their game, but I am after only the immersion of realistic horse vaginas and I don't appreciate the feature creep. The author removed all the previous versions, telling the community if you don't want chicken vaginas then you aern't getting any vaginas at all! You have to respect his vision of everything with legs sporting a horse vagina. Version 14 was his magnum opus.
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I'm sorry the author ruined your ~*immersion*~ by adding Argonian horse vaginas, but honestly, I think you guys are the spergy ones for caring that much. All he did was add content. I use the latest version and it's just fine.
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Getting excited about this game, and I'm honestly happy about the return of VATS. It's part of what sold me on Fallout 3, my first in the series, because it adds silly charm. It's so playful - the scan sound, the zoom in, the cute beeps upon selecting a zone. Combining those elements often cut the tension of a difficult battle and led to many moments of unintended humor. It's like using a colorful toy microscope to review ebola, and I think it helped make F3 fun in a way that is very "videogame-y." JackBadass posted:Yep. Gotta have all 15 versions of "Realistic Horse Vaginas". I heard these are actually implemented as a hat.
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Having modular armor that you can mix and match is going to have me spending way too much time playing wasteland dress up.
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So is it going to be like Skyrim where I have individual pieces that make up my outfit, or is it going to be more bland hat and body stuff?
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7c Nickel posted:I didn't get NotN, but I heard it was pretty good if you lined it up with playing a Templar style character. It is exclusively for that type of character. The special gear from the quest has a pretty cool buff that makes "good" animals friendly towards you, which makes many caves hilariously easy to go through. Also, at the end you create a small order of knights. With a mod that allows more followers, you can roll around with your own army and blow through any dungeon in the game. It's all right.
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Die Laughing posted:Having modular armor that you can mix and match is going to have me spending way too much time playing wasteland dress up. Does this mean i can finally dress up as a roadwarrior smegma crazy with open buttflaps on my leather pants
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JackBadass posted:So is it going to be like Skyrim where I have individual pieces that make up my outfit, or is it going to be more bland hat and body stuff? 
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