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So, yesterday they had a special Firefall Live with cowboy, the guy doing the battleframe redesigns. In it they covered all the advanced battleframes and how they are changing! Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXJNvt6Ud8s Recap: http://www.firefall.com/news/firefall-live-recap-july-17th-2015 Highlights:
Dragonfly:
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Nalin posted:Dragonfly:
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Jul 18, 2015 21:27
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Tigerclaw changes sound pretty nice. The primary fire projectile can now do crit damage on headshots/etc. The alt-fire nova is faster, more powerful, and with a larger damage radius but now sticks instead of detonating on impact and you detonate it by firing another shot at it. You can detonate it mid-air or if you stick an enemy and then crit the enemy then the nova will also do crit damage. Sounds like a lot of fun.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:22
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I honestly don't know how to feel about this, some of them sound really good, some really horrible.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:23
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Fina posted:Tigerclaw changes sound pretty nice. The primary fire projectile can now do crit damage on headshots/etc. The alt-fire nova is faster, more powerful, and with a larger damage radius but now sticks instead of detonating on impact and you detonate it by firing another shot at it. You can detonate it mid-air or if you stick an enemy and then crit the enemy then the nova will also do crit damage. Primary fire can already crit on headshots. 
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Jul 18, 2015 23:36
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Really? I never noticed that ever.
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Jul 19, 2015 02:46
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How long after these awesome sounding PTS changes can we expect them to go live? I am considering getting back in on the game and am curious to know how long it could be.
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Jul 21, 2015 06:49
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DarkDobe posted:How long after these awesome sounding PTS changes can we expect them to go live? Probably a couple months. I would be end of year.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:33
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 PTS patch online! Notes: http://forums.firefall.com/community/threads/pts-patch-v1298.6695421/ Download: http://forums.firefall.com/community/threads/how-to-download-and-access-the-pts-server.6353721/ The PTS goes up to level 30. Red 5 would like you to fill out a survey after reaching level 20 and again after reaching level 30. List of major changes in this PTS:
Absent is the new crafting system, which is still being worked on. Also, PvP is not yet in the game (probably).
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Jul 22, 2015 04:26
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How do they keep getting money to keep reworking this game from scratch? Also wasn't PvP going to be the main feature of this game before it was released?
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Jul 22, 2015 04:38
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Mercury_Storm posted:How do they keep getting money to keep reworking this game from scratch? Also wasn't PvP going to be the main feature of this game before it was released? China money. Also they are re-working the game again because China. And yes, Firefall started out as PvP, but it has slowly become eclipsed by PvE over the years because that is what makes them money. Now PvP is pretty much non-existent, but that will change as Arena PvP is supposedly going to come back in a big way.
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Jul 22, 2015 04:46
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I'm actually happy to hear that. Firefall seemed like it had the guts of a seriously fun game but lost me at the endgame. Hopefully Recluse is still stupidly fun but I can't imagine that something like Rhino isn't going to end up on top when all is said and done.
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Jul 22, 2015 07:29
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I'm glad this game is hanging on; it was never solidly in the dumpster in its many iterations, and I've always been a sucker for games with jetpacks 
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Jul 22, 2015 14:49
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Epic High Five posted:I'm actually happy to hear that. Firefall seemed like it had the guts of a seriously fun game but lost me at the endgame. Hopefully Recluse is still stupidly fun but I can't imagine that something like Rhino isn't going to end up on top when all is said and done. Recluse was stupidly fun and great in every way, so they pretty much left it as-is. The only thing they really did was remove the terrible Kinetic Shot ability and replace it with a new Poison Trail that shoots a line of bees at the enemy, leaving the poison trail as it flies. --- They actually changed the Assault weapon. Instead of the shotgun secondary, it now has a mortar secondary. It's like the Dreadnaught HKM (Accord Mortar Launcher) in that you get a nice little mortar reticle when you switch to it. Assaults also don't reload anymore. You can just unleash a steady stream of plasma shots until you run out of ammo (240 rounds). Assault is waaaay more fun, which I didn't think could be possible. Also, they seem to have changed the story a bit again. The Chosen now have an actual objective other than "destroy all humans!" The Chosen are after the arclight plans because they want to permanently open a doorway to the Melding universe. There is also some drama about Serkan still being alive (even though he was turned into goo by Typhon and dissected by Accord scientists). It's a better way of introducing the plot concept of the Chosen being able to be reborn when killed. I haven't made it to level 30 yet so I can't talk about the Tigerclaw yet. One thing I noticed is that Red 5 basically broke every addon by removing a widely used library file. I've made fixes for Goon Transit that I've now pushed, but many other important addons like Cartographer and xLootTracker are broken.
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Jul 22, 2015 15:51
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Guess I'll update the PTS and see if Ding Squirrel still works.
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Jul 22, 2015 18:46
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Inimicul posted:Guess I'll update the PTS and see if Ding Squirrel still works. The most important mod
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Jul 22, 2015 19:38
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Kinetic Shot had one use and one use only, but it was funny as hell. A well-aimed shot at (above, really) someone's head from across the map could take off most of their health and leave them utterly confused as to what hit them
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Jul 22, 2015 19:49
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Nalin posted:China money. Also they are re-working the game again because China. I'm dying for you all to see the new PvP. Playing internally has been literally the most fun I've had at work in a decade.
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Jul 22, 2015 19:51
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Well no offense but I'll wait for the no more revamps thing to actually stick before I get invested again.
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Jul 22, 2015 20:15
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Holy cow, just finished watching the FFL and the Firecat changes look amazing. It's like half of the old Firecat was removed and replaced with the things he submitted for the Salamander. I'm downloading PTS update now and going straight for that one. Edit: Ding Squirrel confirmed working. Inimicul fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Jul 22, 2015 20:26
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are there any signs of the game taking up a really grindy game style due to the china money? I would really love to see the game become something great but I can't say im not a little worried about it becoming grindy
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Jul 22, 2015 22:10
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Monowhatever posted:are there any signs of the game taking up a really grindy game style due to the china money? I would really love to see the game become something great but I can't say im not a little worried about it becoming grindy That's more of a Korean thing. I'm not sure there's one "type" of gamer that predominates in a country as gigantic as China, plus considering you're looking at an introduction of a game type that has only been done once in China (Planetside 2, MMOFPS) to mixed results, and complicated by the fact that this is more PvE and that is all PvP and man, who even knows Recently the Korean server was shut down for Planetside 2 and they joined the US servers, and even there it's become clear there's a large subset of gamers who do NOT want to spend all day grinding. Hopefully R5 decides there's market enough to go for the guns and guts of western gaming over the grinding of stereotypical Asian gaming fake edit - that said I could thump as a Recluse all day and if it goes grindy Thumping is going to get a big buff in rewards so I'm happy either way. Nalin posted:Recluse was stupidly fun and great in every way, so they pretty much left it as-is. The only thing they really did was remove the terrible Kinetic Shot ability and replace it with a new Poison Trail that shoots a line of bees at the enemy, leaving the poison trail as it flies. Hold on Nalin let me fix this for you quote:Assaults also don't reload anymore. this also opens up the possibility of allowing the reload keybind to serve a new function on Assault, like switching ammo types HINT HINT Sooooo, Recluse for Thumping and all-AOE bosses and Assault for literally everything else. Got it
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Jul 22, 2015 22:19
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I'm actually a little sad that Plasma is losing the shotgun alt-fire, it was so absurdly powerful and satisfying to just drop down right in front of something and shotgun it in the face.
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Jul 23, 2015 00:39
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The new alt fire is even better. It's the buffed aoe fire. Also, it took me 15 minutes to go from level 1 to 10. Possible xp bonus on PTS but seems tuned to fit the new player experience.
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Jul 23, 2015 00:54
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Ville Valo posted:I'm dying for you all to see the new PvP. Playing internally has been literally the most fun I've had at work in a decade. Yeah. I made a big  post about PvP a while ago right here and was pleased to learn that many of my ideas matched what TheMuffinMan was doing. I even tried to push my idea of Battleframe skin rewards, and he even said he would push for it (although I really doubt that would ever happen). Hearing that you find it really fun gets my hopes up.--- Also, I created a GOONS2 army on the PTS. Just apply and I'll accept you. Note that it is NOT GOONS. There is a 2 after the end. Blame Red5 for never, ever bothering to wipe the PTS armies.
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Jul 23, 2015 04:08
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http://forums.firefall.com/community/threads/can-we-have-a-pts-army-wipe.6699521/ Mika says it was just done yesterday. I'll hop in when I get back home. So far the PTS has been loads of fun. It's nice to see Copa really busy again, even if half of it is NPCs. It seems a lot better than two AFK dudes and 5 NPCs like on live.
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Jul 23, 2015 05:27
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Inimicul posted:http://forums.firefall.com/community/threads/can-we-have-a-pts-army-wipe.6699521/ Haha, so that's why GOONS2 was gone when I logged in today. I've made GOONS on the PTS. I'm Nalin on the PTS so whisper me or send me an in-game mail and I'll invite whoever to the army. Once we get 3 people in it the army should show up in the list.
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Jul 23, 2015 05:33
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Thunder bumping is alive and well with the new LGV changes. Walk up to a wall and activate LGV. Turn into a meteor.
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Jul 23, 2015 20:33
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Inimicul posted:Thunder bumping is alive and well with the new LGV changes. Walk up to a wall and activate LGV. Turn into a meteor. It will live forever. Combat looks fun but no way am I downloading the PTS right now.
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Jul 23, 2015 22:38
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The PTS it's super laggy and broken. I alternate between hating and loving the poo poo out of the combat changes. At one point I stopped and thought this feels a lot like pre release. There are a ton of people running around making GBS threads up zone chat because it's the only new content in almost a year.
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Jul 24, 2015 04:37
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Would you say it's so bad it gave you public test server disorder?
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Morglon posted:Would you say it's so bad it gave you public test server disorder?  The more I play it, the more I like it. 1-10 happens so fast I almost got whiplash but it slows down pretty fast the closer you get to 20. I was salvaging gear I got in one mission and then outleveled and upgraded the very next. Once things started to slow down a bit and you can fiddle with your build more without worrying about it being outdated within the hour.Edit: Holy poo poo. I'm in the battle lab trying out the firecat and the tigerclaw. The TC is either horribly bugged or the most OP frame on the planet right now. Primary fire doing 2k damage stock with a massive AOE or the alt fire doing the UT Shock Rifle combo for a radius so large and so much damage the bots don't even show damage numbers as they explode. Still, I set out to test FC so that's what I'll do. Inimicul fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 25, 2015 |
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Jul 25, 2015 18:34
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 So in the Operation Hightide mission, there are several hidden easter eggs like this one where you surf around the bay on a jet surfboard. It even plays the Rupert Holmes song Escape while you're surfing around. Shorts match warframe paint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfWVn0GF48Q
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Jul 26, 2015 22:36
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Applying to Goon Squad. Figured I might try and get back into the game. Ambercrack in game. Nevermind, found it. Red beans. Great. Fantastic Alice fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jul 26, 2015 |
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Jul 26, 2015 22:43
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Just posting here for verification when I go to join Goon Squad. IGN is SACathair. I've already played up to about level 13 on the PTS, I like it so I thought I'd jump in on live. The tipping point was me asking in chat if there were any bikes that didn't handle like boats, and being told that pretty much all the ones on the live servers are much better. Remains to be seen whether they were bullshitting or not, but the game's fun either way.
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Jul 28, 2015 07:24
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Cathair posted:Just posting here for verification when I go to join Goon Squad. IGN is SACathair. The P-1 is pretty bad, but it is the starter LGV. The next one up is a lot better. And obviously the red bean bikes are the best. You can buy them for about 22k credits on the marketplace, which works out to 22 days worth of BWA runs at 1 hour or less per day (there is a daily crystite conversion limit of 25,000 cy to 1000 credits). Anyway, I've added you to the army.
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Jul 28, 2015 07:42
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Nalin posted:The P-1 is pretty bad, but it is the starter LGV. The next one up is a lot better. And obviously the red bean bikes are the best. You can buy them for about 22k credits on the marketplace, which works out to 22 days worth of BWA runs at 1 hour or less per day (there is a daily crystite conversion limit of 25,000 cy to 1000 credits). Thanks, for the add and the advice. Progress has been painfully slow on the live servers compared to the PTS, and some parts of the gunplay feel... less refined, I guess, but oddly the overall movement feels better. The base speed of my jumpjets feels better to start with, like the interplay between directionality and momentum is better tuned. Also, the midair forward sprint seems more powerful; I was just thinking earlier on the PTS how it's mostly useless there, due to draining my jet energy far too quickly compared to the boost it provides. I'm guessing the intention behind the PTS starting you off with worse jets is because you're supposed to compensate for it with gear that provides jet bonuses. Can never have too much jumpjets. On the subject of daily grind, I've played Warframe for years (still do, waiting on our new parkour update to drop in the next day or two), so I'm no stranger to the strategy of casually mashing out a little bit of progress each day until one eventually accretes enough stuff to do whatever you want. It's not my favorite kind of game design, but it's acceptable to me if the basic gameplay loop is fun. This game has a lot of interesting things going for it, and even if I get bored of it I think I'll be keeping an eye on what they do with it in the future. Looking forward to the PTS stuff being hammered out into a more complete state and brought to live. Cathair fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jul 28, 2015 |
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Jul 28, 2015 08:34
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Cathair posted:On the subject of daily grind, I've played Warframe for years (still do, waiting on our new parkour update to drop in the next day or two), so I'm no stranger to the strategy of casually mashing out a little bit of progress each day until one eventually accretes enough stuff to do whatever you want. It's not my favorite kind of game design, but it's acceptable to me if the basic gameplay loop is fun. The grind wouldn't be as bad if you had joined a year ago. By now the population has dwindled so the LGV prices on the market have gone from about 11k to 22k. Actually, hold on. I remembered that you can buy red beans with credits on the marketplace. The going rate of red beans is currently 109 credits and the cheapest LGV on the red bean marketplace is 175 beans, which works out to 19075 credits. So about 19 days of gameplay, which is a little better.
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 Firecat is pretty fun. Spraying fire everywhere like it's a fire hose is pretty rewarding. I'd be happy to give a trip report for anyone who's interesting but I'm starting to get curious about the other frames. I can't decide what to try next though. I'll put it up for a vote.
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Inimicul posted:
Any improvements to sniping?
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