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Man, Old Man Logan is just too good. Pretty sure bringing him to Doomgard is a good way to end Secret Wars quickly. I like how this Logan lived through the Marvel Universe so he knows how things should be, generally. I grabbed Star-Lord and Kitty Pryde, and the Quill in it is the one from the Raft, so as far as I can tell, its the first book that features one of the survivors outside of the main books. Gambit has some crazy facial expressions in it.
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I assume the Spider-Man that just showed up in Spider-Verse is probably not 616 Pete, but I think that'd be a better story, honestly.
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Gaz-L posted:I assume the Spider-Man that just showed up in Spider-Verse is probably not 616 Pete, but I think that'd be a better story, honestly. Until we get confirmation, yea. I hope it is though! Drax with a giant pompadour is just...weird.
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Jul 22, 2015 22:46
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I could definitely see the raft characters showing up in the side stories and leading people back to Doom. Strange did just scatter them to the winds.
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Jul 23, 2015 02:43
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They delayed a bunch of the tie-ins due to the main series delays, so there's definitely going to be more interplay between them eventually.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:10
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I hope Old Man Logan is just him interloping and confusing everyone else until he beats up Doom.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:21
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WickedHate posted:I wasn't in a good mood this morning but the joke at the end of EoE made me laugh. I read your spoiler but I still wasnt loving prepared. BEAST WARS!
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E is For Extinction truly lives up to the hype, but I have to say I'm not getting the point of making Xorn a whole separate character from Magneto. I mean, I get that the Official Marvel Retcon is that Magneto wasn't ever Xorn, but A) going with that retcon here kind of messes up the idea of homaging Morrison's run, which is what the book is meant to be, and B) the whole reason Marvel retconned Magneto being Xorn in the first place was because they didn't want him to be just some crazy evil idiot, except that he's just some crazy evil idiot in this storyline anyway while Xorn ends up being the good guy, which defeats the purpose of the retcon. Perhaps I'm overthinking this, but Morrison comics are meant to be overthought 
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Jul 23, 2015 03:39
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Okay OML is pretty good now that it's OML's hammer powered trip over the horizon.
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Jul 23, 2015 03:46
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I kind of imagine Old Man Logan getting hit by the hammer and just flying off Team Rocket style into the next domain over. OLD MAN LOGAN IS BLASTING OFF AGAIN! With E is for Extinction, yes it's very much a Grant Morrison homage, but it's also something that's very much having a conversation with the nitty gritty of the run itself as well as its immediate fallout. Xorn was something positive, even though it was all a drug induced lie created by a crazy despicable thug. However, the concept of Xorn was something that Marvel, and other writers, decided was good enough to keep, hence the absolutely silly "It was actually his evil brother, so both Magneto and good Xorn are still around, sorta". The concept of good Xorn was used again, in much less subtle and interesting ways, in subsequent stories where he sort of sacrificed himself to save the X-Men. What's interesting about two aspects of Magneto fighting over this maguffin for the fate of mankind is how it resolves: Xorn figuring out what Superman did in All-Star Superman when he was up against the Ultra-Sphinx after seeing that he and Magneto aren't this morally gray morass of anti-hero whorship, but a good and bad man locked in a fight that was going no where. If there's anything, it's that Xorn, at least as a concept as a comic character, wasn't going to be defined by a piece of poo poo like Magneto anymore. And then the egg squashed Magneto, lol. If anything, I think the fight was very true to a lot of Grant Morrison's work, in and outside of Marvel. TNG fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 04:14
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I bet Land traced the metal dinosaur in Future Imperfect from episodes of Zoids.
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TNG posted:I kind of imagine Old Man Logan getting hit by the hammer and just flying off Team Rocket style into the next domain over. OLD MAN LOGAN IS BLASTING OFF AGAIN! Have you read it? It's pretty much that, except with lightning instead of hammers.
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Jul 23, 2015 05:18
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Hickman did a good job with double Xorns in his Ultimates run. As half assed as the retcon was, there's been some decent stuff spinning off of it. It's an interesting study in the liquid nature of comic book characters.
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Jul 23, 2015 06:44
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I hope delays don't mess up the timing off stuff, because it would be annoying see some plot points spoiled in one of the tie ins that is from the primary book.
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Jul 23, 2015 06:48
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Loved Marvel Zombies, Weirdworld, Old Man Logan, and Star Lord and Kitty today. I kind of want Spurrier to continue writing Elsa Bloodstone forever.
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Jul 23, 2015 09:18
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Jul 23, 2015 12:45
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BrianWilly posted:E is For Extinction truly lives up to the hype, but I have to say I'm not getting the point of making Xorn a whole separate character from Magneto. I mean, I get that the Official Marvel Retcon is that Magneto wasn't ever Xorn, but A) going with that retcon here kind of messes up the idea of homaging Morrison's run, which is what the book is meant to be, and B) the whole reason Marvel retconned Magneto being Xorn in the first place was because they didn't want him to be just some crazy evil idiot, except that he's just some crazy evil idiot in this storyline anyway while Xorn ends up being the good guy, which defeats the purpose of the retcon. Maybe since it's Xorn there's a reveal coming! 
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Sentinel Red posted:Poor zombie M.O.D.O.K It's MODOC
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Weirdworld is so metal it makes All Black the Necrosword look like a nursery rhyme.
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head58 posted:Weirdworld is so metal it makes All Black the Necrosword look like a nursery rhyme. Welp, I need to absolutely get in on this now.
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Endless Mike posted:Maybe since it's Xorn there's a reveal coming! I was more than half expecting Xavier, and still am.
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Jul 23, 2015 14:58
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I'm so loving happy the dragon's alive even after eating that stupid pufferfish.
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Weirdworld was loving amazing, by far my favorite tie-in so far. I also liked Star-lord and Kitty, seems like is going to be a pretty fun mini.
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I feel like there's something I'm missing in Marvel Zombies. Elsa realizes that the winged soldier she gave the kid to was a shapeshifting monster who ended up being Mystique, but how? A baseball in a metal case drops from...somewhere...and this clues her in why, exactly? And how did the weird shape with the staff that was stalking them play into it?
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Phenotype posted:I feel like there's something I'm missing in Marvel Zombies. Elsa realizes that the winged soldier she gave the kid to was a shapeshifting monster who ended up being Mystique, but how? A baseball in a metal case drops from...somewhere...and this clues her in why, exactly? And how did the weird shape with the staff that was stalking them play into it? From what I can tell he gives her his tracker (that ball) and it falls out of her pocket, breaking one. There's a very small panel where she pull the binoculars out of her pocket and it falling out. Elucidarius fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Okay, so I don't want to spoil myself by going through the thread, and I'm a bit behind, but I did just finish and enjoy the Hickman Avengers/NA leadup and I think the first 3 of the main Secret Wars series. Is there any consensus on how "good" this event is shaping up? (I remember SA quite liked Infinity, which I also liked, and disliked AXIS, which I disliked/didn't read past issue 1.) And are any of the tie-ins both a) important to the "main" story and b) good? Or are all the tie-ins basically "optional," and we can pick and choose? If they're all "optional," I'd love some suggestions on people's favorites. Apologies for the fact that this has probably been asked about three dozen times in the thread--feel free to just link me back to other posts. But googling for this discussion is actually kinda tough if I want reasonable-person opinions without spoilers. Edit: Okay, I skimmed and found some tie-in recs. Feel free to post yours anyway, though? (And none are central to the big Hickman story except the main series, right? Like, "Secret Wars: Battleworld" isn't any more "essential" than 1872?) edit2: Thanks much to all! Looks like there's a lot of good reading ahead, since a whole bunch of the tie-ins looked like they could be fun. onefish fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 20:55
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It's awesome and the tie-ins that I'm keeping up with are: Old Man Logan, Infinity Gauntlet, 1872, Weirdworld, E is for Extinction, Siege, Inhumans, Zombies, Zombies vs AoU, Thors, Planet Hulk and Squadron Sinister. The rest I'm content to wait six months for. Also there are supposed to be two tiers of tie ins with the "Battleworld" titles being farther removed from the main story,but I haven't noticed much of a difference.
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onefish posted:And are any of the tie-ins both a) important to the "main" story and b) good? Or are all the tie-ins basically "optional," and we can pick and choose? If they're all "optional," I'd love some suggestions on people's favorites. Apologies for the fact that this has probably been asked about three dozen times in the thread--feel free to just link me back to other posts. But googling for this discussion is actually kinda tough if I want reasonable-person opinions without spoilers. My favorites: Ghost Riders Marvel Zombies Weirdworld Star-lord and Kitty pryde Attilan Rising Captain Marvel and the Carol Corps Squadron Sinister Captain Britain and the Mighty Avengers Guardians of Knowhere Spiderverse Spider Island Runaways Civil War 1872 Model Assassin A force E is for Extinction Old Man Logan Infinity Gauntlet 1602 Witch Hunter Angela Little Giant Sized AvX Planet Hulk Siege Thors I may be alone here too but I enjoyed Hail Hydra and Where the Monsters Dweller . As you can see a whole hell of a lot are enjoyable. Basically I'd say pick ones you're interested in and read the first issue. From there you'll have an easier time deciding.
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To my eyes, BSS is mostly onboard the Secret Wars train, and the tie-ins are overall pretty well received, outside of a few clunkers (though there's probably someone out there who enjoyed Armor Wars). Ones I've thoroughly enjoyed: Siege Old Man Logan Thors Battleworld E for Extinction 1872 Civil War Captain Britain and the Mighty Defenders Basically, if it looks cool to you, grab it. redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 21:08
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So far none seem essential, though with Old Man Logan getting a series after the event, I'd bet that will be important.
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Endless Mike posted:So far none seem essential, though with Old Man Logan getting a series after the event, I'd bet that will be important. There will be stuff that will be important to series after Secret Wars is done, but nothing important to Secret Wars itself. But yeah anyone who they've announced is coming over or series that will continue will carry some weight.
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Jul 23, 2015 21:24
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I'm loving the little nods to other series that build the world like seeing Cap in the Murderworld jail in Ghost Racers. What else have people caught.
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Jul 23, 2015 21:26
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I went back and grabbed the 1st and 2nd issues of E for Extinction because it's gotten such good word of mouth from goons. I managed to get over the artwork, and really enjoyed it.
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twistedmentat posted:I went back and grabbed the 1st and 2nd issues of E for Extinction because it's gotten such good word of mouth from goons. I managed to get over the artwork, and really enjoyed it. What? The art is amazing!
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onefish posted:Okay, so I don't want to spoil myself by going through the thread, and I'm a bit behind, but I did just finish and enjoy the Hickman Avengers/NA leadup and I think the first 3 of the main Secret Wars series. Honestly we don't know what is essential or what isn't as of right now. We know that stuff in 1872, Weirdworld, and Old Man Logan is definitely carrying over post Secret Wars but we don't know much else besides that. Here's my post from earlier in the thread on what I've read and enjoyed, I've added in books that have come out since then as well. Deadpool posted:The only ones I've avoided are Inferno, X-Men '92, X-Tinction Agenda, E is for Extinction and Years of Future Past.
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Read Thors and Ghost Racers and your (Battle) world will be a better place. Aside from those two (which are probably some of the best tie-in's), everyone has their own personal preferences. I really like Spider-Verse because I'm a huge mark for alternate universe Spider-Men. It's got Noir Spider-Man in it, which is enough to get money from me. But yeah, it's not totally clear which ones will be essential to the main story yet.
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Okay, just caught up on X-Men '92, and I have to say it might end up being my favorite tie-in of this whole event when all is said and done. "You can play as Dazzler, but not me?"
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I feel like tie-in recommendation should just be what you don't like for this event. For me that's Years of Future Past and Armor Wars. Everything else has been awesome in my opinion.
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Jul 24, 2015 00:04
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Ultimate End is fairly lackluster. Especially when compared to Bendis' two other Secret Wars books.
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BrianWilly posted:Okay, just caught up on X-Men '92, and I have to say it might end up being my favorite tie-in of this whole event when all is said and done. That's a reference to the 90's beat-em up isn't it? Who said it, Jubilee, Gambit?
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