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OSad posted:I still don't understand what the Atlanta is good for. The guns are sub-par, the torpedoes have bad range, (I think) it's slower than the average cruiser, it has poor armor, it can't shoot very far and the shots take forever to get somewhere, and if they do find their mark by the time the next year comes around, if it's anything more heavily armored than a destroyer, even doing damage is going to be difficult I think. HE spam, and I think AP plunging fire on the ships with really weak deck armor.
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Night10194 posted:I have finally finished the Kawachi. Please tell me the Myogi is better. Well it's not the Kawachi and you're one step closer to the Kongo!  Seriously though the Myogi gets better range so that you can actually engage St. Louis class cruisers without having to weather a constant deluge of 6" HE rounds. The main problems with it are that it still doesn't have any AA (and no the 3rd hull doesn't count) and that the turret layout requires you to do some creative maneuvering to bring your two rear turrets to bear on the target.
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OSad posted:I still don't understand what the Atlanta is good for. The guns are sub-par, the torpedoes have bad range, (I think) it's slower than the average cruiser, it has poor armor, it can't shoot very far and the shots take forever to get somewhere, and if they do find their mark by the time the next year comes around, if it's anything more heavily armored than a destroyer, even doing damage is going to be difficult I think. I honestly think the Marblehead (a US premium Omaha, presumably fully-equipped) will be a more cost-effective crew trainer than the Atlanta. Sure, it won't earn as much, and it's unlikely they'll give the Marblehead the Murmansk's firing range, but it'll still be an Omaha, a perfectly serviceable ship at a friendlier tier spread, and it'll have a premium credit and xp modifier. Too bad they seem completely loving uninspired with regards to telling us when any of the planned new premium ships are coming. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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I really liked the Kawachi but even I thought the Myogi was awful. Had some decent individual games in it, but still awful overall. I'm also used to ripple firing to help my aim, so it was especially bad on the Myogi with only three turrets.
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TheDemon posted:I really liked the Kawachi Why. I am genuinely curious.
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Arishtat posted:Well it's not the Kawachi and you're one step closer to the Kongo! It's also only got 6 guns, and I'm pretty sure it has the worst gun dispersion in the game. It's a hunk of junk, but at least the grind is relatively short, and there are no more donkeys left to come after it
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Tell me about everything after the cleveland. Do I have more disappointment ahead?
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Well the Myogi is a rather fast BB (~30 knots), and gets a Scout plane. Though that's about the only good things about it.
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Somebody posted these saying that low tier premium ships have been distributed to super-testers.              I liked how fat and cute Mikasa looks.
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They can't all be coming, there are two more Auroras, two Tachibanas and two Omahas in there, would be a weird premium pattern to establish
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Pretty sure the Red and Green one will only be obtainable bundled with some gaming hardware.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Is there a short list of ships that are considered really good that I should be aiming for? I just unlocked my first tier 4, and have more or less enjoyed the ships I've gotten so far, except maybe the T1 stuff. Good ships : Clemson Minekaze Aoba Omaha North Carolina Kongo Terrible ships : Furutaka Mutsuki Kawashi South Carolina Colorado Supposedly Izumo Krogort fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Add the Warspite to the list of bad ships, it gets shat on by the MM all the time and is only mediocre to begin with.
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I loved the sound of a premium Omaha, because that is my favorite ship. I'm not sure the Cincinnati/Marblehead is good enough to buy though. The increased torp range is the only stat that is better. You get 8.2km torp range instead of 5.5km, but with 2 tubes instead of 4. The rudder shift time is considerably worse (10.1 vs 7.5 on regular Omaha). 
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None of those premiums have me excited. The Sakura's concealment is INSANE, but 30 knots and garbage for torpedoes and the toy guns attached makes me feel nothing.
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PirateBob posted:I loved the sound of a premium Omaha, because that is my favorite ship. I'm not sure the Cincinnati/Marblehead is good enough to buy though. The increased torp range is the only stat that is better. You get 8.2km torp range instead of 5.5km, but with 2 tubes instead of 4. The rudder shift time is considerably worse (10.1 vs 7.5 on regular Omaha).
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OSad posted:I still don't understand what the Atlanta is good for. The guns are sub-par, the torpedoes have bad range, (I think) it's slower than the average cruiser, it has poor armor, it can't shoot very far and the shots take forever to get somewhere, and if they do find their mark by the time the next year comes around, if it's anything more heavily armored than a destroyer, even doing damage is going to be difficult I think. Bad opinions itt The Atlanta isn't slow compared to other cruisers at that tier and certainly more agile. If you drive it like a cruiser you are doing it wrong. The Atlanta is basically a destroyer. Use islands for cover to sneak around the enemy and pummel them into submission at close range. With how agile you are you can take on BBs at range, dodge their shots and just out DPS them. The torepods are like all american torpedos. Short range but rather powerfull. Don't actively use them, but if you can surprise a ship between islands, you can easily dispatch of any foe. Also furthermore the Atlanta eats planes and DDs for breakfast.
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Lord Koth posted:Assuming WG hasn't hosed up the coding somewhere, of course. Quoted because this will likely be useful someday. Krataar posted:Tell me about everything after the cleveland. Do I have more disappointment ahead? What kind of adult beverages that come in liter bottles do you keep at home? If you have a fully stocked bar then you should be fine.. you don't even need mixers because straight or neat will be the best route. demonR6 fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Cool. My Nagato just got thrown into a 1v1 on North against a Montana. I did 31k damage to him before exploding.
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http://blog.worldofwarships.eu/patch-notes-0-4-0-4/quote:Added consumable “Hydroacoustic Search” on the following ships – Kuma, Furutaka, Phoenix, Omaha, Murmansk, Marblehead, Marblehead (Lima) – starting with the stock configuration.
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I soloed an almost full health Kongo last night. In my Furutaka. With torps.  I have reached a peak that I will never reach again.
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Tahirovic posted:Add the Warspite to the list of bad ships, it gets shat on by the MM all the time and is only mediocre to begin with. What? Warspite owns. Excellent manoeuvrability, good guns for tier, and surprisingly hardy. Also gets fuckoff AA. Nothing at all wrong with Warspite.
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rossmum posted:What? Warspite owns. Excellent manoeuvrability, good guns for tier, and surprisingly hardy. Also gets fuckoff AA. Nothing at all wrong with Warspite. Yeah it spins like a top and I have been top tier ship in a lot of my games, it can seriously carry when the stars align right.
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It's also worth noting that it outranges New Mexico, widely regarded to be a very good ship - considerably so when its scout is up - and NM does not even get that luxury to offset its range issues. Fuso outranges both, of course, but Fuso is a floating Jenga tower which can be seen from the Moon.
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I'm really getting into this now. I still have an ambition to drive a CV and have worked my way up to the T4 US BB so the Langley is close. However I had a discussion in game last night and people seemed to think that the IJN CV's are better. The summary I heard is that US CV's have better defense/air cover but the IJNs are much better at sinking ships. And since sinking ships is what gives XP and credits, the IJN CV's are better. Is that fair? Aside from that, I've really enjoyed the T3 US Cruiser but found the T3 BB terrible. I had a quick game on the T4 BB and it seems much better. Is there anywhere that might have a good discussion of all the ships and advice on which ones to go for? At a high level it seems in general the US BB's and Cruisers are better, but the IJN CV's and DD's are superior.
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Japanese CAs are very decent but they mostly have paper armour, so they have to be played differently from US CAs. Everything past the Furutaka in the Japanese CA line is very good although the Aoba takes some getting used to, although it is still a considerable step up from the Furutaka.
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rossmum posted:Fuso outranges both, of course, but Fuso is a floating Jenga tower which can be seen from the Moon. 
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Hazdoc posted:http://blog.worldofwarships.eu/patch-notes-0-4-0-4/ What is this exacly? Some kind of sonar ability that increases the range at which DDs and/or their torps are spotted? If so, I'm not sure I like it. I understand that CAs are supposed to be DD hunters, but it's already easy to dodge torps in a CA. PirateBob fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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rossmum posted:What? Warspite owns. Excellent manoeuvrability, good guns for tier, and surprisingly hardy. Also gets fuckoff AA. Nothing at all wrong with Warspite. 1 out of 10 games is a tier6 game, most of my games are tier8 with a lot of tier9 ones in the mix, super unfun. It comes down to being target practice for all those t7+ cruisers and those that AA does gently caress all against t8/t9 planes. It is a really good and fun ship, if you get t6/t7 games, anything above that and it's really no fun at all. Think it's because of a small sample pool? I just hit the 10th skill on the captain and got my Advanced Firing Training. Maybe it's because I play during weird hours but gently caress this bullshit.
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Hazdoc posted:None of those premiums have me excited. The Sakura's concealment is INSANE, but 30 knots and garbage for torpedoes and the toy guns attached makes me feel nothing. Remember that it is a tier 2 destroyer. Engagement ranges at that tier max out at 10km and the ships are generally slower. It won't be a problem to close range to fire those torpedoes but getting back out in one piece might be a bit more difficult.
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http://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/announcements/ver-0404-patchnotes/ Bismark distributed to super testers  
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Even money that, after super testers are done with Bismarck testing, there's a Tirpitz tier 7/8 premium out for sale before the end of the year.
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rossmum posted:It's also worth noting that it outranges New Mexico, widely regarded to be a very good ship - considerably so when its scout is up - and NM does not even get that luxury to offset its range issues. The NM does get a scout plane on its last hull. Just thought I'd say because don't think it actually says that in-game.
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NTRabbit posted:Even money that, after super testers are done with Bismarck testing, there's a Tirpitz tier 7/8 premium out for sale before the end of the year. Pretty sure the Bismark is gonna be a T8 premium and the Tirpitz is going to be the one in the tech tree.
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ranbo das posted:Pretty sure the Bismark is gonna be a T8 premium and the Tirpitz is going to be the one in the tech tree. Wehraboo wank over history, I forgot
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Is the Atago worth the cost of entry? I never once spent a penny on WoT but the design of that ship is crazy nice.
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ijyt posted:Is the Atago worth the cost of entry? I never once spent a penny on WoT but the design of that ship is crazy nice. Shoot torps from forward 45 degree to backward 45 degree, total 8 tubes per side at 10 km range. Shoot 10 shells (2X5 8 inch) relatively accurately. Hide from view over 11.x km (10.2 km with module + camo). Atago can't: Take hits to side because cruisers don't get much armor anyway. Shoot 6 shells going forward because 2 guns at the front are blocked. Overall Atago isn't a bad ship of choice. It can engage at range (although getting hit will hurt) and charge in to be a threat to battleships using its speed (35 knots) and camo. It's easier to use compared to Atlanta imo, but Atlanta can be deadly if you can get into effective range.  gently caress pubbies.
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