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Yeah! New chapter of Sukeban Deka! I don't know if I'm the only one reading this, but I loving love it!
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MonsieurChoc posted:Yeah! New chapter of Sukeban Deka! You had me hooked at the delinquent part. Delinquent shoujos are the best.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:40
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Assuming the old OAV was accurate Sukeban Deka is a lot more violent and serious than the usual 'everyone thinks X is a delinquent but they're actually a nice person' thing.
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Jul 21, 2015 08:08
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That type of delinquent shoujo also owns. Gokusen is one of my favorite mangas, and that's pretty violent at times too! technically it's josei but who cares
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Jul 21, 2015 08:17
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It's violent but it's too over the top for me to take it seriously
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Jul 21, 2015 12:40
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Do the evil girls in it have crazy black sharks eyes like the anime?
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Jul 21, 2015 12:43
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Apparently there's been a long-running drama series based on the manga. I've been thinking about checking it out but haven't gotten around to it/couldn't find it. I did find this trailer for a movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMfUvm4g18
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Jul 21, 2015 15:31
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If you like Sukeban Deka you should check out Pygmalio. It's a great adventure manga. http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/pygmalio-r2957
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Horimiya 53, wrapping up the sports festival. It's been a while since Horimiya has had one of its  chapters so I guess it's back on track...for now.
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I'm ready for sports festival to be over but that was a cute chapter.
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So someone uploaded the serialized version of Wakabayashi Toshiya's 4-komas, and as you could expect there are a bunch of new chapters not found in the original! Starting off with some more of the Love Master 
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Nondevor posted:So someone uploaded the serialized version of Wakabayashi Toshiya's 4-komas, and as you could expect there are a bunch of new chapters not found in the original!
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Nate RFB posted:More Love Master is great but I've been dying for more chapters of the girlfriend who trolls the little sister most of all. That girlfriend is such a glorious troll
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Nondevor posted:Starting off with some more of the Love Master I'd been dying for him to interact with that girl again.  Also nice to see the junior too.
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Nate RFB posted:More Love Master is great but I've been dying for more chapters of the girlfriend who trolls the little sister most of all. Just started reading this and oh my god that trolling was amazing.
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Jul 23, 2015 19:00
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I, I just want to protect you…as much as your password does!
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Jul 23, 2015 21:30
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Now I kinda want a Wizard's Soul-esque world where phone passwords factor into romance heavily.
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Jul 23, 2015 21:52
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B-baka... I knew that you were protecting my phone all along! This is the best.
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I posted it in the chat thread and friendly poster posted the scanlations! Good if you want to print them out and give them to coworkers.
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Hey guys - I have a question for you all as fellow manga readers - and possibly collectors. Though I'm sure plenty of you buy manga online/read unlicensed scanlated manga and read it on tablets or your computer or whatever, I'm also pretty sure a lot of you probably physically buy copies of the manga because it's known to own/collect them and, perhaps if you're like me, you prefer reading manga in a physical when at all remotely feasible. But again, I know not everyone is like this. The other thing is that I'm cursed with being probably one of the absurdly few gay men outt there who collects yaoi/shounen-ai manga, though I do branch out and read other genres when there's a particularly amazing manga out there or a story that grabs. But by and large, 90% at least of what I read, buy, and keep is yaoi/shounen ai, for better or worse. It really all goes back to adolescence, like most things of this nature - for whatever reason the first sort of pornography I got into when I like was 14/15 was yaoi, and it made an impression on me, so... It's what I collect now. But the important thing I wanted to ask, is whether or not price-gouging for hard-to-find and particularly good manga is as awful in other genres (like shoujo romance or josei or even yuri) as it is for yaoi. I mean, it's just really extreme in some cases. It is not at all uncommon to see a book that has been out-of-print for a while (often because the publisher who had bought the license has long since gone bankrupt; see Tokyopop and their yaoi imprint Blu). But a lot of the worst cases are titles that DMP (digital manga publishing) printed extremely limited runs out of and seem to be either unwilling or unable to revisit reprinting certain volumes. For example, take a popular series by a mangaka I am particularly fond of (Hinako Takanaga), Koisuru Boukun (or "The Tyrant Falls in Love" over here). It is an ongoing series that currently stands at 8 volumes, and is licensed by DMP and printed on their Juné imprint. Volume 1 is very easy to find and cheap by yaoi standards - you could find a used copy online for under $10 or pay about retail to get it new. The same goes for volumes 3, 6, and 8 (the most recent one). The problem is with the other volumes. Volume 2 is the worst. If you go to amazon to buy a copy, you will find the cheapest used one costs $155. Which is not a fluke; volume 2 has cost at least $100 for a few years as far as I know. You may get lucky on ebay and find a copy for $120 or so, but you have to basically be lucky and stumble across a copy being sold by someone who think it's just another volume of manga, which again does happen on ebay or something. And other volumes have the same problem. Going by minimum Amazon prices here (and the prices at half.com or barnes and noble marketplace are higher 99% of the time based on my experiemces) volume 4 costs $30, Volume 5 costs $70, and volume 7 costs $43. A full lot of all 8 books is on sale for $250 on ebay (I've also seen it go for $300). Based on the amazon prices, and the fact that the other 4 titles would average out to about $10 each plus shipping, $250 for the 8 volumes is a bargain - which is a pretty sad state of affairs. This isn't at all isolated, either. A great title by the mankaga Junko came out a few years ago on the June imprint called Konbini-kun (given the horrendous title "Mr. Mini Mart"). But it was still a great manga that got a great translation and is a really sweet little shounen-ai one-shot. A really wonderful title. But apparently they didn't print enough or something, because the minimum amazon price is $100. Or take Kou Yoneda, one of the better mangakas out there; with the exception of her one Viz/SuBLime-released title, anything she's written that DMP licensed and released costs a minimum of $100 per volume. Much more if you want a new one, apparently. Or take the popular "Hey! Class President" series which is also ongoing; DMP has released the first 5 volumes on their 801 imprint. Volumes 1, 4, and 5 are easy enough to get. But volume 2 is priced at $200 on Amazon, and there aren't any copies of volume 3 at all. I found a single copy at half.com priced at $200, though, but that was really it. Anyway, so this is my roundabout way of asking if having to put up with this sort of crap is "usual". Call me weird but I really do like to have all of a series, and I do like to physically read the copies. It really sucks that price gougers makes this virtually impossible within this genre oftentimes, and it's especially punishing to purchase the first volume of a series for a reasonable amount, get hooked, and find out that the next volume will cost $1-200 - so you can read parts online and have several big gaps in your collection, or wait interminably for a decent-priced to maybe just maybe show up. I really hope for the sake of all manga readers it's not this bad for everyone.
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The more popular something is, the less likely it is that it will cease being printed. Once something is out of print, especially if it has collectors value, prices will soar. I imagine the reason the reason that Yaoi stuff gets so expensive is that print runs are small and they go out of print sooner than more mainstream stuff. If you look at works from other genres which have been out of print for a while and have smaller print runs, you'll run into the same pricing issues. It's true for a lot of other items than manga too.
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Jul 24, 2015 14:40
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Yeah, it's pretty normal for out-of-print stuff to have some inflated prices, but yaoi seems to get it worse, perhaps due its smaller yet more enthusiastic audience. The worst I'd previously heard of was Utena vol. 5 going for ~$40 (it's down to reasonable prices now, for some reason). Those prices are bonkers. That sucks.
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Yeah, I know the basic principles of supply and demand, it's just... It gets really, really extreme with yaoi. I know the same general thing happens with all kinds of collectibles, I was just wondering if the manga industry was affected the same way across the board. I'm not really surprised it's limited to yaoi because there was this boom where a lot of licenses got bought and a lot of imprints were active from like '06-'10, and after that everything slowed down *tremendously* as far as I can tell and DMP's books especially would only be in print briefly as they were released, and then *pfft*. I'm guessing a lot of these more valuable books did have limited print runs. It does go both ways though, because I admit that I use my knowledge of what yaoi/shounen-ai is expensive and worthwhile and what isn't, and it can be *very* profitable. I was at a used bookstore two towns north that sells some manga this week, and I am *really* glad I made the trip because they did have some yaoi. In fact, I bought 4 used titles for $6 each, and going by the minimum price a copy is being sold on Amazon, they combined for a value of $155. Most was due to one volume being worth $78, the other three were $20-$40 each. But I make finds like this all the time, and I guess I'm "part of the problem" because I do have a little ebay enterprise where I make utterly insane margins selling yaoi that I buy low and sell for a *much* higher price. It's not unusual for me to make ~$50 off a single volume - and that's my margin after ebay takes their cut and I offer free shipping. But I just re-sell stuff for what it's worth so I can fund this unholy habit, and take advantage of places that price profitable volumes incorrectly.
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Yeah, it's across manga in general. When I was helping a friend pick up missing volumes of Berserk, several volumes were $80+ and one volume was something stupid like $150. I had it happen again when I was trying to finish up my collection of Monster before they announced the new edition (I really should have waited), and that single volume was around $50.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:24
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DMP is a badly run company. Their stuff goes out of print almost as soon as it's published, and of course the release dates get pushed all over the place so if you don't pre-order, you may miss it all together. They do plan on doing more Kickstarters to reprint popular series, and I bet one of those will be Koisuru Boukun. Solution: get into more SuBLime series! None of their stuff has gone out of print yet, as far as I know.
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Kusaru posted:DMP is a badly run company. Their stuff goes out of print almost as soon as it's published, and of course the release dates get pushed all over the place so if you don't pre-order, you may miss it all together. They do plan on doing more Kickstarters to reprint popular series, and I bet one of those will be Koisuru Boukun. Solution: get into more SuBLime series! None of their stuff has gone out of print yet, as far as I know. You're totally right about DMP being a badly run company - they also exclusively only sell certain product on *their* site, this crappy little job called akadot. You need to go there to get a lot of the exclusive releases. And I don't know about those Kickstarter campaigns, they seem much more enthusiastic about doing them for old Osamu Tezuka titles than doing any reprints for stuff out of their yaoi catalog. That said, they did recently reprint the very popular Finder series (a 7-part Yakuza/yaoi series by Ayano Yamane)via a Kickstarer campaign, and that was great because I've not only acquired it at a reasonable price, but purchased several copies of volumes 3 and 4 (the "rare" volumes as far as Amazon is considered) which are only being sold at this one spot in the akadot store and then re-selling them on ebay for $50-$60 apiece. Which is a bit naughty, but hey, it's an expensive hobby to support and I'm actually selling 'em for less than the other gougers... So yes, I know about the kickstarter campaigns and have been taking advantage of the absurd way DMP deals with their print runs from it as well, but I'm not too enthusiastic about yaoi titles other than insanely popular ones like Finder getting much love And I've actually collected all 8 volumes of Koisuru Boukun already, got some good deals. I found a copy of Volume 2 for $70 on eBay which felt like an absolute steal after looking for a copy for <$100 and failing for months. I had already found a copy of Volume 4 for $10, practically stole a new and shrinkwrapped copy of Volume 8 for $13 instead of $70 or so, and landed a copy of volume 7 for $27 which wasn't so bad. All in all the full series cost me ~$150, which I think is pretty good since they're probably only going to appreciate and the full run should sell for $250-$300 all together, more maybe if you sell them one-by-one but that'd be more tiresome too.. It's funny really; I never would have bought/read the series if I wasn't a *huge* fan of Hinako Takanaga, the mangaka, and didn't adore almost everything else she'd written (especially Little Butterfly, which despite having a bad name is still the shounen ai title I rec to people who complain about the lack of realistic emotional depth in yaoi). I'd avoided this series for a long time because I bought and read the first volume and much of it was based around a really typical non-con/datrapey yaoi trope, which is both repugnant to me and extremely unlike Hinako Takanaga, so for quite a while I was like "Good loving riddance I don't want to collect that series anyway!" Because non-con is kind of a dealbreaker for me in a manga. Of course, what's truly sad is that it's the rare and impossibly expensive volume 2 that contains the semi-realistic repercussions and fallout of the rape in the story, and emotional characterizations that place Hinako Takanaga above most other yaoi mangakas. So it sort of pisses me off that DMP apparently still reprints (or printed a ton of) the explicit and rape-y and gross volume 1, but the actual worthwhile beginning to the real narrative of this particular manga (and the much-needed character depth) doesn't really start till the *much better* volume 2 - which is of course impossible to find/buy unless you either get lucky or feel like plunking down $150. And that's a terrible way to sell a product that has a relatively high demand, all things considered. Anyway... I'm not sure I've made it clear just how prolific my collection is.. I've got about 380 manga in my collection that are yaoi/shounen-ai the last time I made a count; it's probably close to 400 by now. I mean, you say "get into more SuBLime series", and that's actually great advice! But I already own almost every print series they've released! I actually know off the top of my head that all I am missing from Sublime's Print Catalog right now is: "Starting With a Kiss" vols. 1-3 by Youka Nitta, and Sleeping Moon vol. 2 by Kano Miyamoto (I'll wind up getting all 4 eventually). SuBLime has two pretty decent/popular titles that they just started right now in "Love Stage!!" by Taishi Zaou (another favorite mangaka of mine) and Eiki Eiki, along with (finally) an English release of Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi. I'm not the hugest fan of Shungiku Nakamura's art, but it's hard not to enjoy her stuff on a basic level and the anime being popular makes me want to read the manga... especially given that it's *about* making manga. So it's cool that I can actually trust that company to release stuff on time and not constantly bump back the dates like DMP (Koisuru Boukun Volume 9 was supposed to be released in July, until we got to July and now it's being released in November, of course, thanks again DMP). I just wish we'd see more dark/adult stuff getting licensed. One of the best yaoi series I've read was a recent SuBLime release called Blue Morning by Shoko Hidaka, which is this great (and quite lengthy and dense) piece of historical romance taking place during Taisho period (1912-1926) about a young viscount and his ambitious butler living amongst the Japanese nobility at the time. It's just great to read something that's truly intelligent, engaging, well-drawn, and respectful to both the reader and the characters - and is actually within the yaoi genre; that doesn't happen enough. And I have to say, it's so nice to read intelligent queer historical romance, especially about a time period and place I'm not too familiar with. Reminds me of the great Mary Renault books about Alexander the Great in a very indirect way. This is really why I love SuBLime - they don't license a lot of series for actual print runs, but the ones they do license are extremely worthwhile and either really fun to read (like a comedy series such as His Favorite that is hard not to enjoy if you like this sort thing) or engaging and intelligent like Blue Morning, or a classic and really well respected series such Crimson Spell (by the amazing Ayano Yamane whose art can pretty much make up for any shortcoming) which they did a *fantastic* job of releasing all 5 volumes of over the period of less than a year. And Crimson Spell is easily the best yaoi/fantasy title that's licensed and actually released over here. edit: And I really am sorry about all the freaking  I write in my posts, it's a bad habit and this is a topic I don't really get to discuss very often!
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It would be nice if some of these companies that hold licenses would at least make digital versions available if they can't get print copies out but apparently there's a lot of poo poo that can jam up even that process (or they're just bad at it  ). I'm ok with having a digital copy instead of reading print though. I only buy print if it's something I can't get any other way or is a title that I *really* like. If it comes down to reading a scan online vs paying somebody on ebay hundreds of dollars, I'm going with the scan though. Neither option supports the original author and I'd rather spend that money on something that the author IS going to see a piece of.Unrelated to that, I picked up the first volume of Blue Morning because the setting looked interesting but was really put off by the rape, especially since directly after it seemed like I was supposed to be sympathetic to the lead who just raped the other guy wtf. so I never have even finished the first volume and it's one of the few I've regretted paying for a print copy. That's the other thing that makes me hesitant to fork over a bunch of cash for a BL title and I'll usually read at least a few chapters online if possible before I buy anything because of that.
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kaworu posted:I just wish we'd see more dark/adult stuff getting licensed. One of the best yaoi series I've read was a recent SuBLime release called Blue Morning by Shoko Hidaka, which is this great (and quite lengthy and dense) piece of historical romance taking place during Taisho period (1912-1926) about a young viscount and his ambitious butler living amongst the Japanese nobility at the time. It's just great to read something that's truly intelligent, engaging, well-drawn, and respectful to both the reader and the characters - and is actually within the yaoi genre; that doesn't happen enough. And I have to say, it's so nice to read intelligent queer historical romance, especially about a time period and place I'm not too familiar with. Reminds me of the great Mary Renault books about Alexander the Great in a very indirect way. If you're ok with digital (and haven't read it already, considering your sizable collection), Kusama Sakae's The Match Seller/Yagi-san Yuubin is a historical (post-WWII) romance available through SuBLime. The second couple is iffier than the first, but the first is one of my favorites in anything ever. It's ongoing, though. To quote someone on Goodreads: quote:After reading the rave reviews over at the sublime homepage I figured this might be one of those rare examples of adult BL, where adult doesn't mean smutty but grown-up. It reminded me a lot of Shoko Hidaka's manga, which is high praise. Great mood, conflicted characters and an interesting art style. Also - since you were saying you're one of the few guys who read BL - http://mangacomicsmanga.com/tcaf-2015-gengoroh-tagame-talks-gay-manga-bara-bl-and-scanlation/ posted:Here, I think those boundaries are a lot more fluid. One of the interesting things that came out of this whole SuBLime imprint is that because we are publishing this stuff ourselves, directly, digitally– we have access to a lot of consumer data. You know, it’s all confidential, we can’t see anybody’s personal information but just in the buyer behaviour, one of the things that really, really startled me was that I always just assumed that 95% of the audience for BL manga was women, and it wasn’t.
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I have zero issue pirating out of print poo poo because the people making money on it at that point aren't the people who made it, and they're often charging absurd prices, like with that Batman Animated Series boxed DVD set or the Cromartie boxed set on Amazon.
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Kusaru posted:If you're ok with digital (and haven't read it already, considering your sizable collection), Kusama Sakae's The Match Seller/Yagi-san Yuubin is a historical (post-WWII) romance available through SuBLime. The second couple is iffier than the first, but the first is one of my favorites in anything ever. It's ongoing, though. Kindle versions of both of these are $3.50 right now too.
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Yeah, I really, really wish I could get into reading digital things, but my experience has just been... Less than stellar. Maybe you guys can help me out a bit here. First off, I'm pretty sure my eyesight is fine - I have no problem reading printed manga. But I tried to read manga on a kindle once a long time ago, and it was just an awful experience. For the whole picture to fit on the screen, the resolution was obviously poor and you couldn't really read the type clearly, so to read the manga at the proper resolution, you would have to like thumb down and to the left if you wanted to see the whole thing at full resolution, which was awful. This is something that I have to think must have been corrected, because trying to read manga on one of the older tablets initially was just seriously impractical, or that was my experience I think. You kinda run into the same problems reading manga online, dealing with resolution issues, staring at a screen, having to scroll around.. Have things actually changed and is reading a manga on a decent tablet as good an experience more or less as reading a physical volume of it? If so, I'll happily get a tablet and hop on the bandwagon. My problem has always been that reading manga from a physical book is just an incomparably better experience. It's quieter, the physicality and the smell gives it presence, even the texture of the paper, the sliding and the rustling of it as you turn the page, the weight of the book in your hands... I don't know, I think I will always prefer reading the book. When I was talking about how long it took me to get Koisuru Boukun volume 2, I actually had not only volume 1 but most of volumes 3-8 already (the ones I could get at a reasonable price, anyway) and even though I could have pretty easily just read volume 2 online and thus would have been able to read the other books I bought, I waited at least 4 or 5 months till I was able to buy a copy of Volume 2 at a reasonable price. Which is a bit silly in retrospect, but I suppose that's how much of a purist I am about wanting to read stuff I hope I'll really enjoy in what I believe is the only correct format to fully appreciate it. But I've never gotten a tablet before and have been strongly thinking about getting one, and have some funds set aside *potentially* for a new gadget; I've been going back and forth between a tablet or a PS4, and the latter seems like a pretty silly purchase still. So if you guys can recommend any tablet(s) that are actually functional at easily reading manga at a normal resolution, I would be *thrilled*. It would allow me to read a lot more yaoi and be more selective about what I keep in my collection. I'm kind of hoping/expecting the technology has improved a good deal by now. Kusaru posted:If you're ok with digital (and haven't read it already, considering your sizable collection), Kusama Sakae's The Match Seller/Yagi-san Yuubin is a historical (post-WWII) romance available through SuBLime. The second couple is iffier than the first, but the first is one of my favorites in anything ever. It's ongoing, though. To quote someone on Goodreads: That sounds fantastic - I would *love* to read a yaoi set in post-WW2 Japan, it's a truly fascinating (and an extremely sad, complex, and misunderstood) time and place. Stuff like this is why I *really* think a decent tablet is a great investment, because I'd be able to read this and a *ton* more emanga-only titles I am really interested in, not to mention stuff like the remaining volumes of Love Pistols since Blu only published 5 volumes and I love that silly, silly manga. quote:Also - since you were saying you're one of the few guys who read BL - That's fascinating, actually, I'm glad they made that data public. But I have to say that when you think about it, it's not entirely unexpected. There are/were undoubtedly lots of gay kids (like me) who grew up on Japanese media, and their first "unrealistic crush" might have been on some character they saw in an anime when they were 14 (*cough* like maybe Kaworu in Evangelion) and such a kid might, say, search out porn of that on the internet. Thus, a male yaoi fan is born (at least in my case) and one thing just leads to another. I was actually thinking about flying out to SF and going to yaoi-con in September, which I've never, ever done - I've barely gone to any cons at all! I do know a few people from way back in the day who would be there, though, one of whom I've been back in touch with. But you know ultimately, yaoi/shounen ai is a guilty pleasure, I suppose. What I compare it to (in an odd way) are the muscle magazines of the '50s and '60s. For lots of gay men of the baby boomer generation, their exposure to pornography were primarily those muscle magazines. I imagine they were a bit equivalent to those Abercrombie and Fitch catalogs back in the '90s, with all the half-naked guys in often-homoerotic poses, but less obviously risque perhaps - but I don't think there was much else that was enticing for a gay kid that was easily available back in the '60s. But my point is that many gay baby boomers later collected those muscle magazines as adults, in part because looking at them/having them was something of an important aspect of their burgeoning sexuality while growing up. So I view my collecting of yaoi/shounen-ai in a similar light, no matter how bemused my current boyfriend might be about it 
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I read stuff on my computer (hooked up to my tv so everything is pretty huge), sometimes a laptop, and on my phone (tiny!) but I think the limitations to reading on a screen are still pretty much what you describe. Most of the time if you want to see the full page at once it's probably going to be too small to read comfortably. On a smaller screen like the laptop or phone, I usually just size the page so that it fits width-wise then scroll down to read the whole page. It results in a little scrolling up & down for tall panels but otherwise doesn't seem too awful. It's nice when you can set your reader to display multiple pages and just keep scrolling down, but navigating by arrow keys is almost second nature for me by now so up/down to read the page then left/right to load the next one is easy enough as well. Even though I sometimes will get Kindle editions I never actually read anything on my ancient Kindle; I just read those on my phone and for the most part the text is clear enough that I don't even need to zoom it in and since I can shove my phone right up in my face it's sometimes easier to read that way than on my computer. Crunchyroll's reader is the worst though. I can never get it sized properly to read comfortably without having to scroll around awkwardly even at full screen and it won't keep the zoom level so I kept having to set it every time I turned the page. I finally just started leaving it non-fullscreen and zooming in with my browser, somehow that made it easier to get the right size and I didn't have to keep changing the zoom level.
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I'm honestly impressed - I can't even conceive of reading manga on a phone! Though I see how it could be done. I'm just sort of wondering if, for instance, the newer iPads are practical for reading manga and require very little scrolling, or if some other brand of tablet is known for being particularly good for reading manga, I suppose, due to it's size/shape or something. I could get into that. I think the really important thing for me is being able to see the entire page at once - that's probably the biggest reason why I prefer reading actual books - it just feels natural and it also helps hugely (for me) in reading the right-left dialogue smoothly and naturally. It's a bit embarrassing, but when I'm scrolling around the page and I can't get really get the whole picture all at once it gets easy for me to, well, lose track of what direction I'm supposed to be reading in for a moment or two, which is obviously confusing as hell and usually results in me having to start the page over so that things actually make sense and I know I'm reading all of it in the right order from the start - it can be tough when you're unable to see everything vertically all at once, for obvious reasons. Maybe I have a harder time with it than most? Whereas with a book, because you're turning the pages from right to left and reading it from right to left, and can always see and understand the nature of the full panel layout, well, it's just a far better experience overall. But again, I'd very interested in a tablet with a resolution that feels natural - and maybe at least lets you see most of the page at once, legibly, at a good resolution. If a tablet could accomplish that I would be quite happy. Of course, I'm assuming decent quality files too, which may not *always* be the case, though I expect SuBLime at least does a good job with their digital releases. kaworu fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jul 25, 2015 |
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kaworu posted:I'm honestly impressed - I can't even conceive of reading manga on a phone! Though I see how it could be done. I have used a Samsung galaxy Tab 2.0 (7 in), I can fit the whole page of a manga on my tablet using forced downsizing to about 80% and its mostly readable, but the smaller non bubble speech text is unreadable unless you squint. I would honestly say go for a 8 in or bigger at least to comfortable read.
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Jul 25, 2015 04:14
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I bought a 10" tablet (Asus MeMo) mainly for reading manga in bed; I don't think the particular model matters as long as the resolution is decent. It works well for me and fits a full page at reading size. With Sublime I buy direct for their DRM-free pdf's and read them in a random pdf viewer. Lately, I've been keeping my digital manga in Dropbox and use the in-app reader. I don't own any Kindle manga and haven't used the app, though I once read a manga preview using a 1st gen Kindle and it was awful. DMP's pdf's are of variable quality (surprise!), Sublime's are all good. I also use a dimming app called Twilight so I don't stay up all night.
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Jul 25, 2015 04:39
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I have an ipad mini that works pretty well, it's just about the size that print manga tends to be anyway. Crunchy's reader works decently on it, except for 2 page spreads those suck. Online readers can be kind of wonky even if they have a "mobile" version, still easier to read in bed than my pc screen. 
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Jul 25, 2015 04:54
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It had been a long time since I downloaded any manga but after buying & downloading from DMP/Sublime and whatnot recently and needing a viewer, I rediscovered CDisplay. Kinda crazy that the program I used to use all the time like 10+ years ago is still a pretty good option for reading manga.
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Oh i almost forgot, i have the comixology, viz, and kindle apps on there too. Comixology and viz are pretty crisp, i only have 1 manga on kindle (Aoi Hana) and it's kinda blurry looking.
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