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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojMZJRUQD9Y
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# ? Jul 19, 2015 06:50 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 01:58 |
Ladders are very important.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 02:30 |
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so i have come across this sequence in fundementals of go, in which kageyama says "if this black [5] strikes you as excellent - the only move - you have the right idea" black 5 in this sequence does look pretty awesome, and when reading this i was like 'whaaa i can do that?' but how come i never see it? i only see A or B. its not even an option in eidogo's joseki library and i've never had it played against me that i can remember. is this very old fashioned, and what are the downsides of playing this way?
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 05:44 |
Not sure, good question. While Black's profit looks big the corner is totally invadable, white gets a lot of outside influence and most likely Black's top middle is exposed too. Areas like Black's are almost too big for their own good at modern pro level I'd imagine
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 07:41 |
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uranus posted:so i have come across this sequence in fundementals of go, in which kageyama says "if this black [5] strikes you as excellent - the only move - you have the right idea" Is this diagram correct? It would make sense if black 4-4 was actually at 3-4.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 07:44 |
I think it's strange for black 3 if 1 is 3-4.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 09:05 |
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One space pincer is not strange at all? Or am i missing something.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 09:40 |
IMlemon posted:One space pincer is not strange at all? Or am i missing something. I would usually think black encloses? e: WHICH 3-4 ARE WE TALKING ABOUT Since it is the top right corner I assumed it's the right 3-4 and not the top 3-4.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 11:14 |
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uranus posted:so i have come across this sequence in fundementals of go, in which kageyama says "if this black [5] strikes you as excellent - the only move - you have the right idea"
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 13:39 |
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IMlemon posted:Is this diagram correct? It would make sense if black 4-4 was actually at 3-4.
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 17:55 |
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maybe i copied it wrong?? i'll check tonight
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# ? Jul 20, 2015 18:01 |
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starting to get some use out of this feature :/
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 06:22 |
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also everyone is right and it was on the 3-4 and i'm just blind
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 06:30 |
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 07:31 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skkzt0Ksevg best fuseki Also, Dia 7 in that page you showed is a very important concept, I feel. I should pay more attention to tewari analysis. AdorableStar fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 07:58 |
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Does anyone else just hate the writing style in the "So you want to play Go?" books?
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 14:27 |
I've tiraded about them many times. They are really, really bad books. The author is trying to emulate the amusing prose of Kageyama or Kajiwara and fails miserably. No editing. And the diagrams? Horrific. gently caress those books. In fact gently caress any book by a non pro for the most part.
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 14:48 |
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I was really excited for an e-book about Go so I could try and study at random times since I always have my kindle with me and never have my dead-tree Go books with me. I wanted to like them but the author spends more words on his "wacky fun commentary" than useful discussion of the game.
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 15:00 |
I don't know what rank you are but for a really good, comprehensive covering of fundamentals, the Janice Kim series are really well written and laid out
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 15:50 |
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I find reading reference books as e-books very annoying. For going for some go on the go I prefer doing problems with an sgf-viewer, or playing 9x9 against a bot.
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 15:55 |
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o.m. 94 posted:I don't know what rank you are but for a really good, comprehensive covering of fundamentals, the Janice Kim series are really well written and laid out I'm just a scrub tier 10k so I planned on checking out the last Kim book.
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 16:32 |
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hey we are the same rank we should play some time
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 16:55 |
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who else plays on tygem give me your username i want to be frieeenddssssss
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 17:52 |
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captkirk posted:I'm just a scrub tier 10k so I planned on checking out the last Kim book. get fundementals of go and every jim davies book, but especially attack and defense.
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# ? Jul 21, 2015 17:54 |
I recommend everyone eventually buy Invincible: The games of Shusaku. I just love all the little history bits and stories aside to the games.
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# ? Jul 22, 2015 02:02 |
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anyone who plays on tygem, whats the trick to changing your avatar? i try to upload a picture and nothing happens. its jpg. it has no strange characters in the name. i resized it to match the avatar dimensions. is there a crazy small size limit?
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# ? Jul 22, 2015 03:38 |
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I got one of my Goon Le4gue games reviewed by Clossius. He says that as a 4-dan he's not strong enough to review properly for 3-kyū such as me, but I don't care about that as long as he finds some mistakes and missed opportunities he can criticize. Here's my writeup after watching the review. dodofish is Black and I'm White. I think dodofish is one of the pubbies who got into the league by mistake, but he seems like a cool guy. We agreed to play a live game to decide our match, instead of correspondence. He's rated 3k in correspondence and 1k in live games. Clossius says W 6 at A became popular due to the opening in the second diagram being considered good for Black. W 8 at B is normal. Immediately after I played 8, I thought it was bad because it induced Black to play at 9 and get a big corner (W 8 is more normal against the small knight enclosure). But Clossius says it's not terrible, but that W 10 should be at B, possibly after exchanging W C, B D. As I played it, W 10 was the real stinker, creating a major weakness at A. B 25 is great; White's side or corner will be destroyed. Clossius suggests that W 24, which I played automatically, maybe should've been a larger-scale move, at A or B. B 35 was big. W 34 should've been at A. Black is ahead. (If a player has four corners, the weaker player (me) should resign??) W 44 was the wrong direction, and should've been at A. W 48 should've been at B. W 52 missed the opportunity to attack severely, as in the second diagram. B 55 at 62. Starting with B 55, Black played a combination to connect out. Disaster for White. Clossius says Black's lead is insurmountable. B 99 was a mistake, but White failed to punish by cutting with W 100 at 101. W 102 was a mistake, but Black failed to punish by cutting at 104 to wreck White's top group. W 104 was a mistake; Black can invade at A, punishing White for W 10 at the beginning of the game, and White can't save both sides (Black would be happy to trade his four stones in the center for White's two in the upper left). B 105 to save Black's four stones induces W 106 to fix, and when the dust settles, the game is suddenly even. (Look how many low-value moves Black had to play in the center!) After this, both players made many endgame mistakes. Black gave White a lead, then White gave it back to Black. B+Res.
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# ? Jul 22, 2015 05:31 |
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so much of why i suck at go is psychological instead of actual skill, i think. if i can just be restrained and calm i win way more. how is a way to practice this, though? ? ?
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# ? Jul 23, 2015 17:34 |
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Have some green tea beside you and force yourself to take a sip between moves. Or take some Ritalin, I dunno. Just consciously think about taking your time with almost every move.
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# ? Jul 23, 2015 19:35 |
I would try cocaine.
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# ? Jul 23, 2015 22:11 |
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If hestler is any indication, adderall is the key
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# ? Jul 24, 2015 01:44 |
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I'm on a 7 game winning streak and it's freakin me out!
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# ? Jul 24, 2015 07:21 |
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I offered avalanche but Black declined. Any opinions on this sequence? (comparison with Kogo's)
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 06:07 |
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I feel like 10 at 12 is better?
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 06:13 |
Please correct me if I'm wrong but the entire sequence is a folly? It's hard to give an appropriate analysis without the context of the rest of the board, but black should have tenuki'd after white N16. The attack at P14 was just mindlessly following the concept of attacking weak points, except white O13 would have nullified it. P14 is a terrible move. Even with white generously attaching to strengthen black, black spent four moves achieving absolutely nothing
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 08:50 |
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o.m. 94 posted:Please correct me if I'm wrong but the entire sequence is a folly? It's hard to give an appropriate analysis without the context of the rest of the board, but black should have tenuki'd after white N16. The attack at P14 was just mindlessly following the concept of attacking weak points, except white O13 would have nullified it. P14 is a terrible move. Even with white generously attaching to strengthen black, black spent four moves achieving absolutely nothing Agreed, black 9 is retarded. There is no threat to the cut. White should play S13 or N17, depending on the rest of the board.
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 18:02 |
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Under 15 posted:White should play S13 or N17, depending on the rest of the board. EDIT: Does W 10 at 12 even work? Can't Black push out?
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 18:12 |
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Xom posted:After B 9 or after B 15? uhh...I guess so! this is why I lose games
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 19:28 |
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Actually you'll just have to block the other way, getting the same result as W 10 at 11. So basically W 10 at 12 lets Black choose side.
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# ? Jul 25, 2015 19:43 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 01:58 |
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strategy of 'keep hand off the mouse' working well so far.
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# ? Jul 26, 2015 06:55 |