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The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. This is the best thing ever.
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lightpole posted:Crime of all types has declined but violent crime especially I believe. It's still high compared to first world countries. Low compared to the Middle East. This is honestly in large part thanks to Roe v Wade. By aborting unwanted babies starting in the 70s, there was a large drop in the highest crime causing demographic, teenage to mid 20s poor men starting in the early 90s. It's one of the biggest contributing factors to the crime rate drop off.
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Jul 24, 2015 17:47
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Mr. Nice! posted:This is honestly in large part thanks to Roe v Wade. By aborting unwanted babies starting in the 70s, there was a large drop in the highest crime causing demographic, teenage to mid 20s poor men starting in the early 90s. It's one of the biggest contributing factors to the crime rate drop off. Wasn't the early 1990s like the peak of high crime? I thought the drop was late 90s or very early 00s?
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Jul 24, 2015 17:54
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Mr. Nice! posted:This is honestly in large part thanks to Roe v Wade. By aborting unwanted babies starting in the 70s, there was a large drop in the highest crime causing demographic, teenage to mid 20s poor men starting in the early 90s. It's one of the biggest contributing factors to the crime rate drop off. Yeah we all had to read Freakonomics/Tipping Point in a 200 level class.
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Cole posted:Your car also has higher insurance on account of being stupid. You're talking about things you don't understand again. The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. That's more significant than I was expecting. I'm also surprised (but probably shouldn't be) that the Marines still issue a test devised in WWII. Godholio fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 17:54
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The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. Well, this is gonna be good for a laugh for a while. We need some more data like that. who do I freedom of information act to find out how fuckin' dumb the average Joe is?
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Jul 24, 2015 17:57
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Just look at every dumb gently caress driving through the gate every morning.
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Jul 24, 2015 18:00
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The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. quote:What they find very much disputes claims that affirmative action or changing demographics have played any role in declining officer quality: “We find, in fact, a positive association between African-American officers and mean GCT score, perhaps because recruitment efforts by the Marine Corps have attracted minority officers who are more qualified than the typical college graduate,” say Klein and Cancian. hehehe... minority hires actually pull the average up.
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Jul 24, 2015 18:08
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When I was going through basic the figures were that immigrants were 4 times more likely to get through basic or osut or whatever.
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Jul 24, 2015 18:11
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Mr. Nice! posted:This is honestly in large part thanks to Roe v Wade. By aborting unwanted babies starting in the 70s, there was a large drop in the highest crime causing demographic, teenage to mid 20s poor men starting in the early 90s. It's one of the biggest contributing factors to the crime rate drop off. That theory is not quite a fait accompli
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Jul 24, 2015 18:12
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Godholio posted:
Could the decline be an artifact of the age of the test? Depending on how the test is structured might there not be a conflict between the concepts and priorities of education when it was made and the modern emphasis and education methods that have diverged from that over the decades.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:03
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I think technically the answer is probably yes, but that doesn't really alleviate concern unless you're starting from the assumption that those changes in priorities and concepts have been completely positive. There's no question that's a flawed assumption, though.
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Jul 24, 2015 20:22
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So apparently Bibi threw enough of a bitch fit over the Iran deal that Obama's signaling that he might release Jonathan Pollard. The CIA is going to be pissed.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:09
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Zeroisanumber posted:So apparently Bibi threw enough of a bitch fit over the Iran deal that Obama's signaling that he might release Jonathan Pollard. So is Biden.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:10
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Stultus Maximus posted:So is Biden. Biden's right. That little rat gently caress should rot.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:16
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But Israel 
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Jul 24, 2015 21:28
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Taking bets on Obama's last day pardons/amnesties.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:29
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The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. I wonder how much this comes down to selection based on gpa without accounting for degree or institution. A officer applicant in 1941 with a 3.5 was probably smart as hell. An officer applicant in 2014 with a 3.5 probably majored in "government studies" from Eastern Nebraska Christian. The article mentions that degrees don't mean as much as they used to but beyond that, the military hasn't changed its standards to account for the ever increasing variation in degree quality. Which, in combination, means that the system has gotten more and more gameable. Now if an 18 year old wants to become an officer, there's a clear path, and that path is not particularly intellectual.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:47
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Taking bets on Obama's last day pardons/amnesties. Everyone previously convicted or currently jailed for weed possession and distribution. 
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:Taking bets on Obama's last day pardons/amnesties. mumia
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Best Friends posted:I wonder how much this comes down to selection based on gpa without accounting for degree or institution. A officer applicant in 1941 with a 3.5 was probably smart as hell. An officer applicant in 2014 with a 3.5 probably majored in "government studies" from Eastern Nebraska Christian. The article mentions that degrees don't mean as much as they used to but beyond that, the military hasn't changed its standards to account for the ever increasing variation in degree quality. Which, in combination, means that the system has gotten more and more gameable. Now if an 18 year old wants to become an officer, there's a clear path, and that path is not particularly intellectual. Response from a captain friend of mine: What isn't mentioned is that the test is not a requirement for entry into service and that when they give you the test, which is given in TBS after commissioning, they flat out tell you that it's a waste of time and has absolutely no bearing on anything whatsoever. It makes you wonder how many people actually take the test seriously...
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Jul 24, 2015 22:04
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Mr. Nice! posted:Response from a captain friend of mine: Unless he has evidence that the number of people who take it seriously has changed, the trend is still valid.
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Prop Wash posted:OK but what gun owners have in common is that they all own devices that propel small amounts of metal at lethal speed through the air, so the actions of an idiot gun owner are potentially more catastrophic than those of an idiot drag queen. Two Finger posted:drag queens are no joke, a friend of mine was pointing and laughing at one so she clean hit him from about 10m away with a chunk of brick e: tbf it doesnt sound like the drag queen was the idiot in this story
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Jul 24, 2015 22:22
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I never suggested differently? Dude always got himself in trouble doing poo poo like that and a brick of justice showed him the error of his ways
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Best Friends posted:I wonder how much this comes down to selection based on gpa without accounting for degree or institution. A officer applicant in 1941 with a 3.5 was probably smart as hell. An officer applicant in 2014 with a 3.5 probably majored in "government studies" from Eastern Nebraska Christian. The article mentions that degrees don't mean as much as they used to but beyond that, the military hasn't changed its standards to account for the ever increasing variation in degree quality. Which, in combination, means that the system has gotten more and more gameable. Now if an 18 year old wants to become an officer, there's a clear path, and that path is not particularly intellectual. In the dark days of 2006 I was accepted to OCS with a 2.24 GPA. Of course, I also had a 141 GT score and a law degree, so 
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Best Friends posted:I wonder how much this comes down to selection based on gpa without accounting for degree or institution. A officer applicant in 1941 with a 3.5 was probably smart as hell. An officer applicant in 2014 with a 3.5 probably majored in "government studies" from Eastern Nebraska Christian. The article mentions that degrees don't mean as much as they used to but beyond that, the military hasn't changed its standards to account for the ever increasing variation in degree quality. Which, in combination, means that the system has gotten more and more gameable. Now if an 18 year old wants to become an officer, there's a clear path, and that path is not particularly intellectual.  (I don't even remember taking the test, let alone my score)
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Jul 24, 2015 22:56
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Zeroisanumber posted:Biden's right. That little rat gently caress should rot.
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Two Finger posted:I never suggested differently? Dude always got himself in trouble doing poo poo like that and a brick of justice showed him the error of his ways oh for sure, that was in reference to the first quote
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Mr. Nice! posted:This is honestly in large part thanks to Roe v Wade. By aborting unwanted babies starting in the 70s, there was a large drop in the highest crime causing demographic, teenage to mid 20s poor men starting in the early 90s. It's one of the biggest contributing factors to the crime rate drop off. lightpole posted:Of course, now everyone always has a chart or statistics backing up their view and its making me question or ignore most charts and graphics presented in support. Data has become meaningless. Was never really a fan of the Freakanomics guys but their books did have some ok stuff. I can't stand Gladwell, his books are just hot garbage. lightpole fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jul 25, 2015 |
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Jul 25, 2015 02:40
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lightpole posted:Was never really a fan of the Freakanomics guys but their books did have some ok stuff. I can't stand Gladwell, his books are just hot garbage. Blink and Tipping Point were good. Outliers was eh, even though it propelled him to mainstream success.
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psydude posted:Blink and Tipping Point were good. Outliers was eh, even though it propelled him to mainstream success. Top guys at Lehman were big fans of Blink and had Gladwell give motivational speeches. I believe the results speak for themselves.
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Turkey is using IS airstrikes to also hit Kurds. 
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ded posted:Turkey is using IS airstrikes to also hit Kurds. We really oughta take back our missile bases and put the boot to those Saracens
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Jul 25, 2015 10:02
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I feel like the easy way to beat ISIS is to publicly offer to recognize an independent Kurdistan in whatever territory they can take and hold by a certain date. Give em two years and we'll have a moderate caliphate.
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VikingSkull posted:I feel like the easy way to beat ISIS is to publicly offer to recognize an independent Kurdistan in whatever territory they can take and hold by a certain date. Give em two years and we'll have a new Ottoman Empire composed of Kurds.
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VikingSkull posted:I feel like the easy way to beat ISIS is to publicly offer to recognize an independent Kurdistan in whatever territory they can take and hold by a certain date. Give em two years and we'll have our nuclear holocaust
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ded posted:Turkey is using IS airstrikes to also hit Kurds. Turkey taking every opportunity to poo poo on Kurds? Say it ain't so.
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ded posted:Turkey is using IS airstrikes to also hit Kurds. Turks gonna turk.
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The Slithery D posted:Marine officers have been getting dumber the last 30 years. Probably the same for other services, but the Marines had data. Wow, every year is within one standard deviation of each other, therefore all the means are the same, stats goons?
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