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Jeez I'm sorry for congratulating an indie game dev for trying to look different from the sea of other games it will be competing against
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hey jerry what's the deal with these pixel art!!! they look like fossilized poop!!!
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Jul 25, 2015 19:18
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A Steampunk Gent posted:just to keep production costs low. Some pixel art is good other pixel art is bad the worst is when the reason its pixel art is because of this reason because then it looks bad.
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Jul 25, 2015 19:33
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Pixel art is stupid retarded garbage and it all looks like rear end!!!
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Jul 25, 2015 19:43
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THE PENETRATOR posted:Pixel art is stupid retarded garbage and it all looks like rear end!!! ur mom
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Jul 25, 2015 20:01
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THE PENETRATOR posted:Pixel art is stupid retarded garbage and it all looks like rear end!!! but enough about your avatar ...
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Jul 25, 2015 20:02
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Jul 25, 2015 20:49
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That is awesome.
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Jul 25, 2015 21:02
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That does look insanely cool, yes
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Jul 25, 2015 21:12
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the crab is cool because its always the only example used and apparently in forty years of pixel art theres only ever been one good sprite
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Jul 25, 2015 21:13
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If you can't produce something which compares to the best the medium has ever produced by masters of the craft, don't even bother
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Jul 25, 2015 21:16
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Mr Underhill posted:Psyched to see more and more adventure games on KS. This time it's the weirdly-named Tsioque, from the makers of Tormentum Dark Sorrow. Tormentum was gorgeous, and this also looks so but in a very different way. Totally backing this.
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Jul 25, 2015 21:29
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A Steampunk Gent posted:If you can't produce something which compares to the best the medium has ever produced by masters of the craft, don't even bother If you people could ever craft a point for BAD pixel art without strawmanning and hyperbole that actually justifies its existence, I would be surprised. Now tell me objectively why pixel leg, 5 pixel wide, featureless hero that fuckingeveryone made since the time of mcpixel/superbrothers is a better choice than anything that could have been drawn in at least a 16 or 32 pixel wide rectangle. The college kids who made the graphics for the "worst game ever" on the NES did a better job and more work, and I doubt they were making very much on it.
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Jul 25, 2015 22:48
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Because it's super popular so it can be concluded that lots of people subjectively like it and visual appeal is largely subjective which is the same answer that comes up every time this stupid conversation arises so we're all equally stupid for participating in it. Again.
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Jul 26, 2015 02:11
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Let's not forget that the attack on pixel art contained a condemnation of 'spindly-limped' characters, which I can totally get behind. Always hate on stick legs! Unless it's Interstellaria!
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Jul 26, 2015 04:43
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DolphinCop posted:the crab is cool because its always the only example used and apparently in forty years of pixel art theres only ever been one good sprite Look at this loving doof who's never played an SNK game
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Jul 26, 2015 14:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhWXI29ec94 Alright so Project Gorgon, a MMO made by a guy (who produced Asheron's Call and Asheron's Call 2) and his wife (producer on Asheron's Call, one of the expansions, Everquest 2 and one of the expansions) hit Kickstarter and it's loving great. Personally, I never played Asheron's Call because I was too busy with UO/EQ back when Asheron's Call was relevant but I'm told it's very much like it. Personally, I'd describe it as Ultima Online without the hardcore PVP elements meets Morrowind and Everquest. It's more of a PVE sandbox, but they're still considering how to implement PVP on the forums and it's still an ongoing discussion. A lot of us in the MMO section have been playing for 6+ months and practically beg this guy for a Kickstarter and it's nearly half funded with 28 days to go. It's playable right now, for free over on http://projectgorgon.com/ . As you may notice, the game isn't exactly a "looker" but the mechanics make up for it and that's where the money is going. The content is already there. It just needs to look better. It's buy2play with an extremely fair business model. $25 gets you the full game in addition to a month of VIP (worth $9.99) giving minor benefits and currency for the in game cosmetics shop and access to the offline leveling system similar to EVE but requires materials to train your skills. You will also get access to Early Access on Steam where characters won't be wiped. It might be releasing in December of 2016 but it's likely that this will go into beta by the end of this year, and you'll keep that character. If you're looking for something interesting in the MMO field, check this one out. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/projectgorgon/project-gorgon-pc-mmo?ref=video
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Jul 26, 2015 23:04
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Orzo posted:Let's not forget that the attack on pixel art contained a condemnation of 'spindly-limped' characters, which I can totally get behind. Always hate on stick legs! Unless it's Interstellaria! Some parts of interstellaria are pretty atrocious artwise
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Jul 26, 2015 23:13
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This tugs at my old Everquest heartstrings something fierce but seriously. gently caress. No. That looks and plays real, real bad. It's about 10 million steps backward for a modern MMO. It ticks just about every wannabe "How do I make MMO?" checkbox there is, leave no feature behind. I want to see evolution in the space, not regression.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:17
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They're nearly halfway there already so they'll make it. They might also be lowballing things though.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:28
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Obsurveyor posted:This tugs at my old Everquest heartstrings something fierce but seriously. gently caress. No. That looks and plays real, real bad. It's about 10 million steps backward for a modern MMO. It ticks just about every wannabe "How do I make MMO?" checkbox there is, leave no feature behind. I want to see evolution in the space, not regression. But you don't understand, there's this huuuuuuuge untapped niche for Ye Olde Cock In A Grindstone MMO! Someone just has to make The Right One, duh! 
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Jul 26, 2015 23:28
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Obsurveyor posted:This tugs at my old Everquest heartstrings something fierce but seriously. gently caress. No. That looks and plays real, real bad. It's about 10 million steps backward for a modern MMO. It ticks just about every wannabe "How do I make MMO?" checkbox there is, leave no feature behind. I want to see evolution in the space, not regression. Looks are deceptive then. Gorgon is great fun, the whole character and atmosphere is done such that it doesn't take itself too seriously. Where else can you pick mushrooms and level up compassion by burying corpses. And the ongoing silly elf jokes are a bonus.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:30
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Kyrosiris posted:But you don't understand, there's this huuuuuuuge untapped niche for Ye Olde Cock In A Grindstone MMO! Someone just has to make The Right One, duh! quote:If you talk to the stablemaster as a pig, he tells you that while he is willing to house your pets, provided that they cannot talk, he does not trust talking animals and you'd better not try to sneak into the stable pretending to be someone else's pet because he knows what you look like now and he'll recognize you.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:31
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Obsurveyor posted:This tugs at my old Everquest heartstrings something fierce but seriously. gently caress. No. That looks and plays real, real bad. It's about 10 million steps backward for a modern MMO. It ticks just about every wannabe "How do I make MMO?" checkbox there is, leave no feature behind. I want to see evolution in the space, not regression. It's all there for you to play right now and looks are definitely deceptive, I'd argue it's 10 million steps forward considering it's going back to what made MMOs fun before it all became "go the guy with ! above his head and do mundane poo poo for a reward" rinse and repeat about 10,000 times. Modern MMOs are the games that went 10 million steps backwards.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:50
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90s hell-MMOs are the only medium capable of humour, it's true!
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Jul 26, 2015 23:56
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I'm going to pay every months to play a 2000 hour treadmill MMO that looks like distilled arse because of this epic joke about a pigge! 
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Jul 26, 2015 23:57
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Alexander DeLarge posted:It's all there for you to play right now and looks are definitely deceptive, I'd argue it's 10 million steps forward considering it's going back to what made MMOs fun before it all became "go the guy with ! above his head and do mundane poo poo for a reward" rinse and repeat about 10,000 times. Modern MMOs are the games that went 10 million steps backwards. Even though MMOs are universally terrible (UO was probably the best one) you are correct and the other guy is wrong by mistaking something coming out afterwards being an evolution.
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Jul 26, 2015 23:58
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project gorgon is actually good and if you don't like it then lol, just lol
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Jul 27, 2015 00:04
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Eonwe posted:project gorgon is actually good and if you don't like it then lol, just lol You have to be an insane idiot to play any mmo
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Jul 27, 2015 00:05
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Truth, but this one is pretty loving awesome. Just play it's free. Kill a spider. Be a spider. Make fried spider legs. Whatever.
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Jul 27, 2015 00:41
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Project Gorgon is cool because it's just a bunch of dumb stuff to do in no particular order. It's not this weird streamlined funnel toward "the real game", it's actually a game at every point in the leveling progression. I think the tradeskills are really grindy but the game itself is weird and fun. The first couple pages of this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3701175 properly incapsulate the weirdness of the game and why it's delightful.
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Jul 27, 2015 02:49
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I appreciate any mmo that doesn't try to clone WoW.
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Jul 27, 2015 02:55
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Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHwof5z6QRY
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Jul 27, 2015 03:01
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Tsioque may not have the smoothest or most detailed art but the game looks charming as gently caress and absolutely nobody makes that style of adventure game any more.
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DolphinCop posted:the crab is cool because its always the only example used and apparently in forty years of pixel art theres only ever been one good sprite  I guess Taoplan were kinda the same deal though. Team that spent years learning their craft to make some rather insanely complicated things. Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 05:22
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I'm going to pay every months to play a 2000 hour treadmill MMO that looks like distilled arse because of this epic joke about a pigge! That's literally every mmo ever
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Jul 27, 2015 06:34
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I like when de world of warcrust added the pandas and gave them the funny meme dance XD
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Jul 27, 2015 06:47
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Lotophage posted:That's literally every mmo ever If you're playing games that remind you of treadmills, you might want to play another game. It's not all "go the guy with ! over his head and do mundane poo poo".
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Jul 27, 2015 07:21
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all mmos are the same
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When you get right down to it, all video games are the same.
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