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casual poster posted:Wow, active quen is the biggest waste of a point I've ever used Don't use active Quen with the "stun explosion" upgrade and don't bother using it until you can respec and dump like three points into it right away. That way it basically becomes a superior blocking option, with the benefit of a self-heal.
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Yall weren't kidding about the combat. Yikes. So much different than im used to in W3. And I'm only on Normal, God knows what it's like on "dark" or "insane". Also wow the whole control scheme in general is huge. It seemed so much less in W3 even though it's the same poo poo basically.
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Jul 26, 2015 02:44
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I beat Witcher 2 on dark mode pretty alright and I think I hated having to farm so much for money moreso than the constant use of rolling everywhere in the Northern Kingdoms. Because blocking and parrying was so much more difficult to do than in Witcher 3, all you could do was to roll to avoid the really drat high damage output from everything. Signs were a bit worse too with a fully upgraded Yrden almost comparable to a base Yrden in Witcher 3. The level differences weren't as big of an impact as they are in Witcher 3 either. In W3 a level 9 Nekker can sit and try to hit me at level 34 repeatedly and barely make a noticeable dent. In W2, I would die still in maybe 20 hits still. Despite whatever modicum of combat skill I had, I only got to maybe wave 12 or so in Arena mode and just stopped caring then. If you watch Youtube videos for Arena mode, wave 50+ Arena is completely insane and will make you poo poo your Mastercrafted Ursine Trousers.JoshTheStampede posted:3 points in Active Quen makes the game like two full steps easier. It's brutally overpowered to the point where it feels like cheating. If enemies did stuff to mess you up like sapping your stamina (I think vampires should drain your stamina and keep it from regenerating, for example) or blocking adrenaline points or maybe even neutralizing your potions and oils, they'd be very challenging encounters. This is the same as the early game experience if you ask me though. But when you play the Witcher series again, you realize that you've actually gotten better and that you really are a better Witcher because you will effortlessly dispatch the same enemies that you would struggle with.
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Jul 26, 2015 05:49
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The Sharmat posted:Yeah it's pretty great. One of the only interesting parts of TW1. It makes her a waaaaaay more interesting character than "Oh I'm just a powerful, beautiful sorceress that loves you more than anything." She's the weakest in 3 because she doesn't seem to get poo poo done without Geralt. They could have had a quest to rescue her from Menge only to find she freed herself, or something along those lines.
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Jul 26, 2015 06:04
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Yeah, Kiera is a better Triss than Triss so far in 3. Edit: Speaking of becoming better Witcher, has anyone been able to tell the difference between Arenaria and Han Fiber by sight? I can look at most of the harvestable ingredients and tell you what they are, but these two seem borderline identical.
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Jul 26, 2015 06:16
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The Sharmat posted:Reasons of State spoilers The only reason that confrontation occurs I think is because the playerbase would be hugely pissed off if they found out Dijkstra had Roche, Ves, and Thaler killed offscreen without them getting any input. Which is more realistically what Dijkstra would have done, and the only real writing flaw in the quest. Yeah It's a shame how they wrote themselves into a corner with that quest. I don't really imagine many players choosing Dijkstra over the rest (oh boy 3 of the cooler characters in the series versus a guy who I guess was in the first game I don't really remember him) and it ends up leaving Dijkstra looking really dumb. He would know full well that there's no way his fat crippled rear end and a few thugs are going to overpower Geralt and a pair of badass guerrillas and he also knows that Witcher neutrality is a crock of poo poo, especially when it comes to Geralt.
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Jul 26, 2015 07:25
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Gobblecoque posted:Yeah It's a shame how they wrote themselves into a corner with that quest. I don't really imagine many players choosing Dijkstra over the rest (oh boy 3 of the cooler characters in the series versus a guy who I guess was in the first game I don't really remember him) and it ends up leaving Dijkstra looking really dumb. He would know full well that there's no way his fat crippled rear end and a few thugs are going to overpower Geralt and a pair of badass guerrillas and he also knows that Witcher neutrality is a crock of poo poo, especially when it comes to Geralt. They should have redone that quest imo. Make it so you can find some notes or something where Dijkstra talks about his plan to kill Roche and Thaler, and then you have a choice to call him out and fight him to the death in the bathhouse with some of his goons. Then later you can meet Roche and Thaler and explain what happened. And then Roche and Thaler can be all angry because they invested so much and are pissed that they didn't realize he would betray them. Or something
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Jul 26, 2015 07:29
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Spite posted:It makes her a waaaaaay more interesting character than "Oh I'm just a powerful, beautiful sorceress that loves you more than anything." She's the weakest in 3 because she doesn't seem to get poo poo done without Geralt. They could have had a quest to rescue her from Menge only to find she freed herself, or something along those lines. She kind of does that in some versions of that sequence. EDIT: I wouldn't call her strongly written in 1 though. Besides the amnesia thing, she's basically Yen-lite instead of Triss. All the way down to outright stealing dialogue from Book-Yennefer from time to time. Snak posted:Yeah, Kiera is a better Triss than Triss so far in 3. Keira is cool as hell. On Thanedd she punched a dude out while wearing brass knuckles. Then later, after being thrown out a loving window and breaking a leg and a rib, she volunteers to go back in with Geralt to help him find Yen, just for revenge. She instructs him to carry her piggyback while she casts spells, like loving Master Blaster. The Sharmat fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jul 26, 2015 |
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Jul 26, 2015 07:48
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Is there a complete crafting components wiki somewhere? There's nothing more frustrating than trying to figure out how a get a specific componant. I need "Silver" I have silver plates, and silver ingots and silver ore and pure silver and I have to check dismantle output of every one of those and each thing they dismantle into. Dismantling and crafting should be in one menu that is a 2-way street. Switching back and forth between them is super annoying.
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Jul 26, 2015 08:29
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Snak posted:Yeah, Kiera is a better Triss than Triss so far in 3. As far as I can tell, arenaria, han and mistletoe use the exact same plant model. It's really weird, because there actually is a unique model for han flowers (you can see it in the bath house) that almost never gets used. 
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Jul 26, 2015 08:44
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Also, just to bitch about dismantling some more: it's not intuitive. Things don't dismantle into their crafting ingredients. That's fine, it makes sense that they don't. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever what they do dismantle into. Why can refined metals be dismantled into ore? Is the blacksmith loving adding rocks into it? Refined versions of any metals should be usable where any level of refinement is required. If I have dark iron ingots, I shouldn't be dismantling into Dark Iron Ore because this armor needs raw ore, for some reason. That's really stupid. This crafting system is well concieved, but its execution leaves a lot to be desired.
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Jul 26, 2015 08:52
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Gobblecoque posted:Yeah It's a shame how they wrote themselves into a corner with that quest. I don't really imagine many players choosing Dijkstra over the rest (oh boy 3 of the cooler characters in the series versus a guy who I guess was in the first game I don't really remember him) and it ends up leaving Dijkstra looking really dumb. He would know full well that there's no way his fat crippled rear end and a few thugs are going to overpower Geralt and a pair of badass guerrillas and he also knows that Witcher neutrality is a crock of poo poo, especially when it comes to Geralt. Also seeing what Roche did in Witcher 2, I still have a hard time believing Dijkstra and a few of his men could kill not only him, but Ves too. Roche butchered an entire camp on his own in Witcher 2, this should be a cake walk for him.
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Jul 26, 2015 09:17
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Snak posted:This crafting system is well concieved, but its execution leaves a lot to be desired. You could really say that about drat near everything in this game on a mechanical level.
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Jul 26, 2015 09:32
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Eh, I think most aspects are executed well. I think one of the worst executed things is the inventory and menu system. The menus are an huge part of the game, because you spend so much time in them. I'm sure they're basically fine on pc, but on PS4 they are laggy, awkward, and pretty inconsistent in how they can or should be navigated. Obviously it's not a dealbreaker, but considering how much they are clearly intended to be used in the game, it's one area that really could have used some more polish. The other big place where there's room for improvement is the explanations of the mechanics themselves. An important design aspect of the Witcher is that there is not usually one piece of gear or one ability that will make you unstoppable. Stacked incremental bonus that add up to a big bonus is a major theme here. So why is it so hard to learn what these stats actually do? The character stats screen is a joke. Not only is horribly organized and missing lots of stats (Adrenaline generation +%s are not listed anywhere, despite lots of abilities and gear contributing to it), but it is currently not displaying the correct toxicity value. Who knows if anything else is displaying incorrectly. Is "Chance for dismemberment" the same as "chance to instant kill?" I mean, there's no non-finisher dismemberment in the game. Or is it just cosmetic, increasing the chance of getting a dismemberment when you do an instant kill? Sword damage is always given as a range on the item, but on the character stats screen, it's given just as a number. Is that the average damage? When I think of what they could have done to make this already fantastic game better, those are the things that pop into my head. The things that confuse and frustrate me.
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Jul 26, 2015 10:01
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Is there a bug with contract payouts and bartering? Just did Swamp Thing, demanded my pay immediately and it was 225 versus the 300 we agreed to. Never noticed this before. Do people actually bother bartering? I've never done it - there's so little point due to how much money you get and how useless it generally is.
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Jul 26, 2015 10:58
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Taear posted:Do people actually bother bartering? I've never done it - there's so little point due to how much money you get and how useless it generally is.
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Jul 26, 2015 13:26
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bartering seems pretty pointless, I don't think I have ever gotten more than 5-10 extra crowns from doing it.Snak posted:Sword damage is always given as a range on the item, but on the character stats screen, it's given just as a number. Is that the average damage? I am totally guessing but I think the range displayed next to swords has to do with the state of repair it is in. If it is 100% repaired then it's the higher number and it slowly goes down to the lower number.
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Jul 26, 2015 13:46
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It's kind of disturbing that after the game ends and you wander around, go to the Vegelbud estate and Patricia's body is still tied up in the bed. One would think they'd untie her and give her a decent burial. None of the servants seem to mind either.
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Jul 26, 2015 13:54
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Encountered a strange bug. The screen froze during a bit if dialouge with Kiera Metz, but I could still hear the voice acting. I could also hear the sound of my dialouge options being selected as I hosed about with the DPad.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:13
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PRESIDENT GOKU posted:Encountered a strange bug. The screen froze during a bit if dialouge with Kiera Metz, but I could still hear the voice acting. I could also hear the sound of my dialouge options being selected as I hosed about with the DPad. And it'll crash if you finish the dialogue by guessing the options (or at least it did for me). You need to turn all the graphics to low to get through it. You can change them back as soon as you finish the dialogue.
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Jul 26, 2015 15:52
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Gorgolflox posted:bartering seems pretty pointless, I don't think I have ever gotten more than 5-10 extra crowns from doing it. It's really unintuitive but just by selecting the bartering option you get a 10-25% boost to your payment (if you select the lowest option) everything after that is just even more bonus so even when it looks like you get nothing because the bar only goes up by 5-10 coins you end up getting way more. Coin is still relatively useless and easy to get though so there's that.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:17
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So I started a second play through recently and havent decided how I want to invest my points yet...
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Jul 26, 2015 16:19
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drat, Imlerith's second phase really is bullshit. Who the hell thought teleporting a guy swinging a huge mace in wide circles right on top of you was a great concept for a boss fight?? It was kind of cool when I learned his attack patterns and actually managed to dodge his swings, but I still couldn't beat him on Death March, had to lower the difficulty.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:23
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Just finished Where the Cat and Wolf Play. It's amazing how quickly the Cat witcher's story goes from sort of sympathetic to "holy poo poo I cannot put my sword in you fast enough." First, "They cheated me out of my reward and tried to kill me. I had to defend myself!" Then, "Okay, so I kinda killed the whole village afterwards. My bad. I was having a really lousy day." And finally Geralt asks how many times he's done this before and he just smiles. Jesus, pal, have some respect for the basic tenets of the Witcher economy. It was a decent fight, too. I had great kit but I was still level 24 so we both gave as good as we got for damage. Then I got a finisher on him and got to watch his head merrily rolling down the slope. A+ quest, would decapitate again.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:24
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If you have active shield, you can just brute force Quen your way through all the attacks until his weapon gets stuck. Then take a couple of swipes and repeat.
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Jul 26, 2015 16:25
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I actually did try doing that, but I thought I'd run out of stamina before he finished attacking. Definitely sounds easier than how I ended up beating him, which is just dodging while keeping passive quen up. Is this fight any easier if you have that skill that reduces damage when rolling?
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Jul 26, 2015 16:43
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Yeah I just sidestepped behind him and he missed every combo, then just kept rolling away every teleport until he does the combo again.
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Jul 26, 2015 17:14
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Oxxidation posted:Just finished Where the Cat and Wolf Play. It's amazing how quickly the Cat witcher's story goes from sort of sympathetic to "holy poo poo I cannot put my sword in you fast enough." the smile really sold it to me in terms of he's a murderous gently caress who does this often. He also threatened to kill them all to their faces, so I really can't blame the town at all for being like, "oh gently caress how can we take out a skilled witcher?" and ambushing him. There's a lot of people who disagree on this quest though. That's a testament to the writing but I simply can't agree that he deserves to live. Me? I reloaded the game and killed him again just because he was that terrible a video game person.
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Jul 26, 2015 17:17
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So I mouthed off to Roche just to see how he'd react. I learned a lesson - do not gently caress with Vernon Roche.
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Jul 26, 2015 17:18
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JetsGuy posted:He also threatened to kill them all to their faces, so I really can't blame the town at all for being like, "oh gently caress how can we take out a skilled witcher?" and ambushing him. They could have just paid him like they said they would 
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Jul 26, 2015 18:32
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Regarding the Black Pearl side quest bug after 1.07: you can get the pearl before talking to the guy to go look for it. Make a save before talking to him on the bridge, then go see where he points you to look for the pearl and reload the save from before you talked to him. Now go for the pearl, it's going to be marked red anyway (also no other black pearl will work on him) and only then start the quest. You won't have to go swim to get it and you'll be able to fight the drowners the moment they pop put of the water.
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Jul 26, 2015 19:00
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Gobblecoque posted:They could have just paid him like they said they would Getting cheated out of your pay is a fact of life for witchers. If Geralt murdered a village every time someone stiffed him there'd be no one left on the whole continent.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:46
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Gobblecoque posted:They could have just paid him like they said they would because Saying "I'll kill you and everyone in the town" is a reasonable response to being cheated.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:47
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Re: Where the Cat and Wolf play: I can't believe there's anyone who defends the Cat Witcher murdering those people. Yeah killing the guys who actually ambushed him? Sure. But when you are CSI-ing up the village, there's at least the one woman who ran into a house to hide and he stabbed here in the spine and killed her. He was literally chasing down defenseless civilians and murdering them out of spite. Great little side story, though. Did anyone else get the (I assume) special dialogue for wearing the Feline set when you talk to him?
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Jul 26, 2015 20:48
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Snak posted:Re: Where the Cat and Wolf play: The best dialogue is the one you get from The little girl if you return to the town. 
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Jul 26, 2015 20:51
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JetsGuy posted:because Saying "I'll kill you and everyone in the town" is a reasonable response to being cheated.
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Jul 26, 2015 20:56
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Ravenfood posted:When the job you just did involved fighting a teleporting woodspirit that can summon hordes of wolves and is terrifying and powerful enough that some villagers start worshiping it as a kind of malevolent mini-deity, yeah, I think getting a little madder than "aw, come on guys!" is somewhat understandable, if not appropriate. There's a few steps of reaction levels between "be a doormat" and "kill everyone", methinks.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:10
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Yeah. Plus Geralt has firsthand experience with the suck that is getting pitchforked. On top of that, you have to wonder about the villagers being able to arrange the setup without talking about it. "Get the Witcher to the barn and occupy him while randomboy hits him with a pitchfork" has a lot of moving parts that would fall apart pretty easily...unless they had it planned out beforehand. Running down the rest of the village after fighting through the trap was pretty nasty though, but after fighting a tough murderbeast, getting cheated, set up, and pitchforked I'd probably be "gently caress these guys and their families" too. We need an emote for "That's The Witcher!" for lovely ambiguous situations like 
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Jul 26, 2015 21:10
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So in the game's second act when you're gathering allies, what does Djikstra tell you if you successfully recovered the key and location of his vault? I imagine he still tells you to gently caress off, but more nicely.
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Jul 26, 2015 21:31
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Oxxidation posted:So in the game's second act when you're gathering allies, what does Djikstra tell you if you successfully recovered the key and location of his vault? I imagine he still tells you to gently caress off, but more nicely. He gives you 1000 crowns, which is useless because you're probably already swimming in money by then.
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