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Azran posted:Most people didn't like it, but me, being a huge nerd, loved the "CCCP" bit.
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Night Lords: Monsters who revel in murder and torture, fighting the imperium and killing billions Emperor's Gift: Monsters who feel bad about murder, fighting the imperium and killing billions  Also ADB is a drat good writer, he needs to move on to something of his own past genre fiction. Meanwhile I'll continue to enjoy his genre fiction!
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victrix posted:Also ADB is a drat good writer, he needs to move on to something of his own past genre fiction. Meanwhile I'll continue to enjoy his genre fiction! No goddammit don't let him hear you saying that! Don't encourage the bastard, or he might get the idea to write non-40k stuff and therefore delay the release of Master of Mankind, and I will knife fight a bitch who has the gall to make that happen.
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One Legged Cat posted:No goddammit don't let him hear you saying that! Don't encourage the bastard, or he might get the idea to write non-40k stuff and therefore delay the release of Master of Mankind, and I will knife fight a bitch who has the gall to make that happen. On the other hand, all the fluff contained in the book will become outdated when Warhammer 40k gets rebooted into "Age of Horus".
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Azran posted:On the other hand, all the fluff contained in the book will become outdated when Warhammer 40k gets rebooted into "Age of Horus". You shut your goddamned whore mouth!
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Demiurge4 posted:You shut your goddamned whore mouth! It'll all be Space Marines, all the time. So you won't really notice the difference.
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ADB came out and said he'd be perfectly happy to continue writing bolter porn for the rest of his career.
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I think the copywriters for Black Library are trolling us now. http://www.blacklibrary.com/horus-heresy/scorched-earth-hardback.html quote:READ IT BECAUSE http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/cybernetica-limited-edition.html quote:READ IT BECAUSE In other news, I just finished Pariah. So that's it for Ravenor/Eisenhorn for me until Abnett releases/writes the next one. 
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DirtyRobot posted:I think the copywriters for Black Library are trolling us now. Seriously. It's hard to begrudge the man his success, but I'd love it if he could set aside all the rest of his projects and just finish the Bequin and Gaunt's Ghosts books.
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jng2058 posted:Seriously. It's hard to begrudge the man his success, but I'd love it if he could set aside all the rest of his projects and just finish the Bequin and Gaunt's Ghosts books. I was reading the Sabbat short story collections and in the forward to the first one he talked about his sudden onset of epilepsy, which was a few years ago I guess, right around when his output decreased quite significantly, which isn't super surprising.
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Hey, gently caress you Dan.Amazon posted:The Warmaster (Gaunt's Ghosts) Hardcover – 7 Feb 2017
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victrix posted:bespoke. hardcover. Speaking of, I read Legion while on the plane over the last week. I can't believe I slept on that for so long, that book ruled. An almost total absence of bolter porn and a ludicrous amount of convoluted spy poo poo and doublecrosses. I really enjoyed it, and it's probably tied with Know No Fear for my favorite Abnett book.
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The Imperial Army units depicted in that book are so amazingly weird. They even fight space-Dacians on giant lizards!
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You had me curious since I didn't recognize Legion... "Alpharius Omegon"  You must be kidding me
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Demiurge4 posted:Hey, gently caress you Dan. That's probably Amazon, who have the habit of randomly assigning release dates with no basis in reality.
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SRM posted:I would love to keep reading Horus Heresy books but when every one is limited to a limited edition of 3000 hardcover books, I'll never ever read them. Even the novellas come out that way. When was the last time one came out as a paperback? It's been awhile. I used to like how the paperbacks lined up nicely. Ironically, for purely collecting reasons, it's the paperbacks I'd prefer. If they released books that weren't totally inconsequential and not by Nick Kyme I'd actually consider coughing up the cash and pay the premium. Like, an ADB- or Abnett-written version of the Siege of Terra (or at least some part of it)? Sure. It won't be the "bespoke" "limited edition" "hardcover" that sells me on it, despite what they probably think, but I'll pay for it so I can read it. A Nick Kyme-written filler piece of chaff about Salamanders wondering about their primarch and shouting "Vulkan Lives!" over and over again? N... no.... Regarding begrudging Dan Abnett his success, one of the things I suspect is that GW just doesn't treat its talent very well. So it's even harder to begrudge Abnett taking awhile to get back to a series when he's got other projects, from companies who might very well just plainl pay him better.
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I tweeted Dan's wife (who runs his Twitter) account the other day, and got a resounding "can't comment" on the delay from her.
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SRM posted:Speaking of, I read Legion while on the plane over the last week. I can't believe I slept on that for so long, that book ruled. An almost total absence of bolter porn and a ludicrous amount of convoluted spy poo poo and doublecrosses. I really enjoyed it, and it's probably tied with Know No Fear for my favorite Abnett book. I listened to Legion on audiobook last year and chalked up how little I remembered about the book to the combination of listening instead of reading and being completely new to WH40k fiction. Then I picked up the Night Lords Omnibus, tore through it and loved it, so I decided to pick up Legion to read because I had such a hard time remembering what happened in the book beyond the fight in the big Nurthene Chaos city and meeting the Cabal at the end. That book is one of the most disappointing reads in recent memory. I respect the idea of building up to writing Space Marines and including a human perspective of the transhuman but Legion is just a poncey Imperial Guard caper with Space Marines as set dressing. It's ridiculous that the title is Legion and a legionnaire is on the cover but there isn't any perspective from within the Alpha Legion. I would be less disappointed if the characters weren't so flat and boring. I couldn't care about a single IG character, no matter how imaginatively they dressed, and I actively dislike John Grammaticus. All the cool spy poo poo loses its effect when the writer makes such little effort to show the perspective of the masterminds. If you're reading most of what the Black Library puts out and keep up with the tabletop game, it's an understandably refreshing break from ALL SPACE MARINES ALL THE TIME BUY OUR poo poo but for someone who used to put together cool looking models as a pastime and is now looking for the interesting parts of my favorite armies' fluff for casual reading it doesn't work. I'm not trying to be some contrarian downer but I've only seen blind praise for Legion in this thread and was surprised at how little I enjoyed it. If anyone else is looking for something that prominently features the Alpha Legion, I prefer the Rob Sanders short story from the Primarchs anthology to Legion. It's a series of setpieces that ends with pages of bolter porn but it's focused on the Alpha Legion in every way that Legion isn't.
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Regulus74 posted:I listened to Legion on audiobook last year and chalked up how little I remembered about the book to the combination of listening instead of reading and being completely new to WH40k fiction. Then I picked up the Night Lords Omnibus, tore through it and loved it, so I decided to pick up Legion to read because I had such a hard time remembering what happened in the book beyond the fight in the big Nurthene Chaos city and meeting the Cabal at the end. Your pretty much spot on legion and mostof Black library's offerings. I mean legion gave us bullshit like the cabal and grammaticus. So it has those strikes against it.
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Greataval posted:Your pretty much spot on legion and mostof Black library's offerings. I mean legion gave us bullshit like the cabal and grammaticus. So it has those strikes against it. I think the Cabal and Grammaticus were fine. In Legion. The problem with them is that they started getting used elsewhere in stories they have no business being in. Ditto the Perpetuals. Still, I'm glad someone else thinks Legion isn't a very good book and would like to have a book that's actually about the Alpha Legion.
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Cythereal posted:I think the Cabal and Grammaticus were fine. In Legion. The problem with them is that they started getting used elsewhere in stories they have no business being in. Ditto the Perpetuals. I will say that by the time it was released, I had already been reading standard-style 40k books for years, and for me, it was great. At this point I'm always interested in seeing the normal Imperial citizens' view of things and the less-explored parts of the setting than more bolter porn, so it was exactly what I needed at the time. I can totally see it being underwhelming for people looking for more traditional 40k reading (or just starting out) though; that makes sense. One Legged Cat fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Yeah, these are all fair criticisms of the book. I know Carl from the Independent Characters didn't like it since it didn't really feature the actual Alpha Legion much at all, so I knew that going in and was prepared for that. If I was expecting the Alpha Legion being all over the book, I would've been disappointed. If it was just called Secrets and Lies I don't think people would be as pissed.
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Sure. But for what it's worth, I completely agree with:SRM posted:I would love to keep reading Horus Heresy books but when every one is limited to a limited edition of 3000 hardcover books, I'll never ever read them. Even the novellas come out that way. When was the last time one came out as a paperback?
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They do all come out as paperback, just a few months after As long as you don't always need the latest and greatest as soon as they are released, just wait a bit The mass market paperbacks are usually 8 or 9 quid on Amazon which is fine for me The novellas are a bit different, but they very rarely have super important stuff in them
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DirtyRobot posted:I think the copywriters for Black Library are trolling us now. Don't hold your breath!
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I feel like I am on crazy pills when I look at black library prices. I really liked some GW books like trollslayer and most abnett stuff. I've read Inquisitor Eisenhorn and Inquisitor Wars. I've heard good -sh stuff about the Horus Heresy series, I know one or two have been on NYT best seller lists but when I check into them they punch me in my wallet. I can't justify 50 usd for a novella, when I heard that price on the IC podcast I thought he was slurring 15 until I looked it up in morbid curiosity. Are they bound in real leather with gold trim or something? What do you guys do for Pricing, either in justification or to get around it?
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Doctor Borris posted:I feel like I am on crazy pills when I look at black library prices. I generally just wait for the paperbacks to come out and then get them on amazon for <10bux.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:I generally just wait for the paperbacks to come out and then get them on amazon for <10bux. This, they're pulp, I'll pay pulp prices for them. I've never paid that much for a book from another author that I love in a series I've been waiting for a release.
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SRM posted:Yeah, these are all fair criticisms of the book. I know Carl from the Independent Characters didn't like it since it didn't really feature the actual Alpha Legion much at all, so I knew that going in and was prepared for that. If I was expecting the Alpha Legion being all over the book, I would've been disappointed. If it was just called Secrets and Lies I don't think people would be as pissed. They should have titled the book Alpha
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victrix posted:This, they're pulp, I'll pay pulp prices for them. I've never paid that much for a book from another author that I love in a series I've been waiting for a release.
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So is ADB's Night Lords short story gone for good from the WH app? It looks like the app's feed removes anything more than a week old.Doctor Borris posted:What do you guys do for Pricing, either in justification or to get around it? Buying paperbacks seems to be the easiest way around it. My paperback Night Lords Omnibus cost less than the ebook version of Legion. I read a lot, have almost no responsibility outside of myself, and make decent money so I'm not too chaffed about paying $16 for an ebook. I justify it by being selective about what I read and only picking up things that have decent reviews and feature armies that interest me.
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So literally always. Talon was an enjoyable read, but no sane person would pay that asking price. Luckily you can ILL it.
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Azran posted:Most people didn't like it, but me, being a huge nerd, loved the "CCCP" bit. It is a perfect detail to highlight one of the primary themes behind 40K. The loss of knowledge and how history will always be malleable. If anyone didn't enjoy Pariah I pity them...
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Khizan posted:What is the CCCP bit you're talking about? It's been a while and I'm drawing a blank. A little toy rocket
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Khizan posted:What is the CCCP bit you're talking about? It's been a while and I'm drawing a blank. In Pariah the main character finds some really ancient toys in a shop, a rocket with the letters CCCP written on it, you know, commies.
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