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Terrible Robot posted:It does, and that plane (Dyke Delta JD-2) has a pretty high stall speed of 70-75kts, as well as an approach speed of around 110. It's definitely not a beginners aircraft. I attended a talk, more or less at random and by accident given by a fellow named Barnaby Wainfan. Dude is a Grumman aerodynamicist, gave a really good talk about how bad airplanes happen. Bad Concept of Operations (like 5/6ths of the Brabazon commission aircraft), extraneous constraints (bad airplanes were built because the spec requred 100' wingspans to fit into existing hangars), getting hung up on a concept to the detriment of function (like the beach starship). ANYWAY, was a good talk, but turns out this guy is principally famous round Oshkosh ways for having designed, built, and flown the Facetmobile. He's currently very deep into final work on the X-47 UCAV, but says the Facetmobile 2 is very much on his mind.
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jaegerx posted:Was checking on my flight for tomorrow when I caught this article I was really racking my brain hard to figure out what angle you'd take that photo at in Brevard before I clicked the link.
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Jul 26, 2015 02:49
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Slo-Tek posted:Dyke Delta: Good grief, that is one of the weirdest airplanes I've ever seen. I must find one myself. 
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StandardVC10 posted:Good grief, that is one of the weirdest airplanes I've ever seen. http://www.facetmobile.com/
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quote:Stall: No stall: stable mush.  e: quote:Gross Wt.(normal): 620 lb.
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Jul 26, 2015 04:12
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Slo-Tek posted:I attended a talk, more or less at random and by accident given by a fellow named Barnaby Wainfan. . I saw that at Oshkosh about 3 years ago. Great talk.
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That project seems almost tailor made for a kickstarter campaign, have they tried crowdfunding their R&D costs?
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I was at Oshkosh today too, I'll have pictures later. I took a flight on the trimotor. The F22 demo flight was pretty neat. BeLite had their Airdock on display too.Terrible Robot posted:This is super cool, I wish more GA planes were based on old fighter plane designs. It's based on an old fighter? ehnus posted:The Dyke Delta is... interesting. It's a four place design with one up front and three in back. The whole frame is made out of steel, including the wing ribs. Lots of airplanes have steel frames. The "weird" stuff, are the wing skins, which are fiberglass, that's laid up on a table flat.. then bent during installation. And the belly of the plane is covered in fabric. And did anyone mention it's designed to be towed on it's landing gear, and the wings are designed to fold over the canopy?
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Nerobro posted:It's based on an old fighter? It's based on several old fighters...and a glider. Wikipedia, sourcing info from an interview with the designer in Sport Aviation posted:Designer John Dyke said his inspiration for the aircraft came from Alexander Lippisch's delta designs, specifically the LP-6 glider and later the Convair F-102 Delta Dagger. The double delta layout of the Saab 35 Draken was incorporated into the design. A lifting body fuselage was incorporated after tests.
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Tsuru posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekyaGl95P24 Full display here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-9uZjg1Tg Apparently they received a stern, 'don't do that again' for the takeoff, bit of a moot point all things considered!
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Jul 26, 2015 08:03
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That take off made me think of Bud Holland.  Probably not as severe as it looked in that film. Probably.
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inkjet_lakes posted:Full display here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-9uZjg1Tg "First flight in 1952, 11 years after the Lancaster ... looks like they came out of different centuries, designed by the same team" I don't know why I never thought about that, but an extremely cool random fact.
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Jul 26, 2015 08:58
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It's the last year of flying for XH558 so I think they're getting the most out of her!
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Nerobro posted:Lots of airplanes have steel frames. The "weird" stuff, are the wing skins, which are fiberglass, that's laid up on a table flat.. then bent during installation. And the belly of the plane is covered in fabric. And did anyone mention it's designed to be towed on it's landing gear, and the wings are designed to fold over the canopy? Sure, but the steel frames in most aircraft are limited to the fuselage, wings are still usually aluminum or wood. The Dyke Delta has steel wing ribs.
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Slo-Tek posted:I attended a talk, more or less at random and by accident given by a fellow named Barnaby Wainfan. Dude is a Grumman aerodynamicist, gave a really good talk about how bad airplanes happen. Bad Concept of Operations (like 5/6ths of the Brabazon commission aircraft), extraneous constraints (bad airplanes were built because the spec requred 100' wingspans to fit into existing hangars), getting hung up on a concept to the detriment of function (like the beach starship). I'd love to hear this guy's opinion on the R101.
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monkeytennis posted:It's the last year of flying for XH558 so I think they're getting the most out of her! Bear in mind all this hot dogging is with an aircraft being nursed to the end of it's fatigue life & with a shedload of restrictions on what it can 'do', I imagine a lot of fun was had with Vulcans back in the day - the prototype being barrel-rolled at Farnborough springs to mind.
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inkjet_lakes posted:Bear in mind all this hot dogging is with an aircraft being nursed to the end of it's fatigue life & with a shedload of restrictions on what it can 'do', I imagine a lot of fun was had with Vulcans back in the day - the prototype being barrel-rolled at Farnborough springs to mind. I know the footage you're thinking of, it's not the prototype, but the footage is a montage of the 2 prototypes (with true deltas) and the first production (with the ogee delta) from probably '55 or so. It's the production (ogival delta) vulcan that did the barrel roll on take-off.
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V-Series bombers: truly, things only a mother could love.
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so loving future posted:V-Series bombers: truly, things only a mother could love. Pistols at dawn for that slight, you bounder 
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so loving future posted:V-Series bombers: truly, things only a mother could love. You know you said that out loud right? You should leave, now. While you still can...
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The Victor is really strange but the other two are pretty good looking.
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The Victor is AWESOME, what are you on about?
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StandardVC10 posted:The Victor is really strange but the other two are pretty good looking. The Victor is a bit goofy. The Valiant is stuck between WWII and post-WWII. The Vulcan is AWESOME. e: for the above poster: the Victor has good and bad angles. At its good angles, it looks great. At its bad angles, it looks derpy.
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Slo-Tek posted:Dyke Delta: Oh my god it's adorable  - I want to see the footage from the go pro on the top of his stab.inkjet_lakes posted:Full display here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-9uZjg1Tg I was about to be "what could they have possibly gotten in trouble for on a takeoff of that old bomber??" Then came the rotation... Then the roll... Then the sideslip 
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Pilots get paid extra when they have to land in difficult conditions, right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02ddnGzxNZs
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Just got back from a funeral. Took this picture next to the place where we had the service: I would have walked around to get a shot from a better angle but it was noon thirty in Ala-loving-bama, and I was wearing a dark suit. I have no earthly idea why it was there, but I'm glad it was.
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So I came across something unusual at the goodwill today and had to pick it up. It's a vast metal model of some sort of flying boat. Pretty large and heavy, and it looks like 1930s vintage. Any ideas as to I.D.? It's probably not a Boeing, that I can divine.      Whatever it is I have a sense it's worth more than I paid for it that's for sure.
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Looks like it might be based on the Sea Ranger, maybe Sunderland? It looks pretty drat generic.
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I found one on ebay but they don't know what it is either. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Metal-Airplane-Seaplane-Sculpture-Military-Model-4-Propeller-Amphibious-/321816107283 I was thinking it might be off one of those 1940s airplane ashtrays (I have one with a DC-3 on top), but the ebay one just has a simple swoopy stand.
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Plinkey posted:Looks like it might be based on the Sea Ranger, maybe Sunderland? It looks pretty drat generic. It's crystallized Art Deco!
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Just got back from a funeral. Took this picture next to the place where we had the service: That is probably the most  tombstone, if that's what is. How close were you to Fort Rucker maybe?
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rocket_350 posted:I found one on ebay but they don't know what it is either. Well heck that's it there. Didn't even know eBay would be viable for it. what a strange thing this is.
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Butt Reactor posted:That is probably the most Huh, hadn't thought of that. This was in Dothan, a spot that google tells me is 25 miles away from Rucker. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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So speaking of Airshows, Lethbridge had one. Still trying to find some good pics, but  My son is now pretty pro airforce for some reason also...  (click for large-ish. Sorry my camera is a Nikon D50 and I have a really crappy and slow long lense)
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C-17: the life-vest-lumbar-support special.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Just got back from a funeral. Took this picture next to the place where we had the service: DAV Chapter 87/Sunset Memorial Park in Dothan, AL: http://aerialvisuals.ca/LocationDossier.php?Serial=1532
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Terrible Robot posted:It's based on several old fighters...and a glider. That's not how I'd interpret that paragraph. If you want to go that far with inspiration, nothing is it's own airplane anymore. There's so much that's unique about the Dyke Delta (including it not being a delta...) it's hard to put it in with really anything else. It is a really pretty plane in person. Though.. this year it wasn't as clean as the last time I saw it.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:DAV Chapter 87/Sunset Memorial Park in Dothan, AL: Well there we go. That is indeed the place. 
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That's their veterans' section. They also have some cannon (they claim Civil War era, but who the gently caress doesn't) they'll fire for funerals.
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The Blue Angels have made their annual arrival  (from yesterday - the city got all photogenic for them) 
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