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Namtab posted:Im hype for sexy anims, but not madoka, for some reason
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Jul 27, 2015 20:06
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Lord Justice posted:I feel it's worth pointing out that I'm not necessarily against sexuality in artistic works in general, just Madoka in particular. I feel vaguely obliged to point out that sexuality already is in Madoka, since it's dealing with teenage girls. Sayaka having a mental breakdown over the fact she now hates her 'zombie' body and doesn't feel she can hold or kiss Kyousuke is a good example of that.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:08
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Endorph posted:i think the 'some reason' is 'homos' I don't understand can you relate it in terms I can understand, like greek
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Jul 27, 2015 20:10
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Namtab posted:I don't understand can you relate it in terms I can understand, like greek lesbos
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Jul 27, 2015 20:11
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Namtab posted:I don't understand can you relate it in terms I can understand, like greek He's referring to sapphic love, my good man
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Jul 27, 2015 20:12
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I'm surprised they still haven't tried to cobble together another Madoka anime, or at least a manga with heavy promotion or something. Seemed almost inevitable after Rebellion. Guess they're less eager to milk the cow ASAP than I thought, either that or all their ideas were SO poo poo they got cut before anything of substance came from them.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:14
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Insurrectionist posted:I'm surprised they still haven't tried to cobble together another Madoka anime, or at least a manga with heavy promotion or something. Seemed almost inevitable after Rebellion. Guess they're less eager to milk the cow ASAP than I thought, either that or all their ideas were SO poo poo they got cut before anything of substance came from them. There's plenty of new mangs, including one with joan of arc and one about homura
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Jul 27, 2015 20:15
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Yeah but they're not very hyped or promoted compared to the anime, and they're all spin-off stuff right?
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Jul 27, 2015 20:17
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Insurrectionist posted:I'm surprised they still haven't tried to cobble together another Madoka anime, or at least a manga with heavy promotion or something. Seemed almost inevitable after Rebellion. Guess they're less eager to milk the cow ASAP than I thought, either that or all their ideas were SO poo poo they got cut before anything of substance came from them. Shaft seem focused on finishing the *monogatari book adaptations with a couple of other side things thrown in, maybe they'll go back to Madoka once those are done.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:19
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Endorph posted:i think the 'some reason' is 'homos' It's not, I vastly prefer yuri works to hetero ones. I said before that Madoka in part exists to me as a separate entity to over-sexualized anime, such as everything else SHAFT makes. Lestaki posted:I feel vaguely obliged to point out that sexuality already is in Madoka, since it's dealing with teenage girls. Sayaka having a mental breakdown over the fact she now hates her 'zombie' body and doesn't feel she can hold or kiss Kyousuke is a good example of that. You're correct in that it exists, but that's one scene and the relationship is defined by far than that, most of which is non-sexual. Sexuality in Madoka is overall very minor, and my concern isn't so much with those minor aspects but rather the increasing enroachment of those themes into the work. If Rebellion exists as it does, what is going to happen in Post-Rebellion? The Magica Quartet has earned my goodwill so far with Madoka, especially in light of the people behind it, but Rebellion makes it a bit harder to trust them going forward.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:19
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Lord Justice posted:It's not, I vastly prefer yuri works to hetero ones.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:21
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im not a homophobe i watch lesbian porn all the time
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Jul 27, 2015 20:23
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Lord Justice posted:It's not, I vastly prefer yuri works to hetero ones. Same
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Jul 27, 2015 20:23
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Lord Justice posted:It's not, I vastly prefer yuri works to hetero ones. I said before that Madoka in part exists to me as a separate entity to over-sexualized anime, such as everything else SHAFT makes. TN: It's not, yuri is good. For me madoka is seperate to the sexy animes, because girls are pure. Sexuality is in madoka, but I'm going to ignore it because 
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Jul 27, 2015 20:25
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a cartoon duck posted:im not a homophobe i watch lesbian porn all the time Same only gay guy porn too.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:25
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Sakurazuka posted:Shaft seem focused on finishing the *monogatari book adaptations with a couple of other side things thrown in, maybe they'll go back to Madoka once those are done. Monogatari's real good, so I'm glad of it continuing at a steady pace.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:27
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I'm not into gay porn but lesbian porn is good therefore I'm okay with the existence of gay porn because I'm not a hypocrite.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:28
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It's kinda funny to me how Shaft hasn't really milked Madoka, but Urubochi has used his popularity boost to become Japanese Tom Clancy
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Jul 27, 2015 20:28
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Srice posted:Monogatari's real good, so I'm glad of it continuing at a steady pace.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:29
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if shaft was goign to do a lame harem anime could they have at least done one with an interesting gimmick
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Jul 27, 2015 20:30
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I think Gaim is still the last thing he actually wrote himself and that finished like a year ago?
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Jul 27, 2015 20:30
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Bakemonogatari was good but then it became really boring afterwards IMO, I barely watched any past that.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:31
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Lord Justice posted:You're correct in that it exists, but that's one scene and the relationship is defined by far than that, most of which is non-sexual. Sexuality in Madoka is overall very minor, and my concern isn't so much with those minor aspects but rather the increasing enroachment of those themes into the work. If Rebellion exists as it does, what is going to happen in Post-Rebellion? The Magica Quartet has earned my goodwill so far with Madoka, especially in light of the people behind it, but Rebellion makes it a bit harder to trust them going forward. I think you're being unduly dismissive. Sayaka's whole deal is her romantic feelings for Kyousuke and how they motivate her wish but aren't addressed by her wish. Her body image issues relating to the soul gem reveal are a major part of the downward spiral, she's pushed further by Hitomi's relationship with Kyousuke, and the final blow is struck when she overhears men discussing how women are sex objects to them and nothing more. That's not a minor aspect, that's the beating heart of Sayaka's character arc. Which makes sense, because they're all teenage girls and these things happen. Talking about that stuff encroaching on the series is just daft to me. If and when it happens, judge it based on whether it's justified by the writing.
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Insurrectionist posted:Bakemonogatari was good but then it became really boring afterwards IMO, I barely watched any past that.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:31
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Endorph posted:the same cannot be said for nisekoi Um Nisekoi is good though???? Like it's sort of gradually trending downwards but it started out pretty high so it's still good. It'll probably suck in season three though.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:33
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cheetah7071 posted:Nisekoi is good This is the first time I have ever heard anyone express this sentiment.
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Jul 27, 2015 20:45
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Sakurazuka posted:I think Gaim is still the last thing he actually wrote himself and that finished like a year ago? He also wrote the Psycho-Pass movie with his co-writer from that show, which I think came out six months ago. Supposedly he's working on something right now that we know nothing about, though.
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Jul 27, 2015 21:16
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point of return posted:He also wrote the Psycho-Pass movie with his co-writer from that show, which I think came out six months ago. Supposedly he's working on something right now that we know nothing about, though. Madoka 2: The Re-dokaning
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Jul 27, 2015 21:56
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A version of madoka where kyuubi steals power from the despair caused by having to get a real job
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Jul 27, 2015 21:57
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the you die if you work meme
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Jul 27, 2015 21:58
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Lord Justice posted:You're correct in that it exists, but that's one scene and the relationship is defined by far than that, most of which is non-sexual. Sexuality in Madoka is overall very minor Lord Justice posted:Madoka is that it is seperate from your typical Seinen Mahou Shoujo, it never relied on merchandising... holy lol! you're killing me. Look, I'll give you a serious answer for a change. Yes, sexuality is madoka is very minor... compared to most other shows. But, and this is going to blow your mind, madoka is not high art and its main purpose is not to express something but to make shitloads of money, and sex helps a lot with that. Both homura *and* madoka in their pokevolutions wear extremely sexy-cute dresses designed to sell poo poo. And boy, do they ever sell poo poo. 2011 was the year of the rear end in a top hat cat/rabbit thing: Japan was plastered with his face, Kyubey and his contract schtick were used to sell everything, from dolls to phone, computers and insurance. Whole neighborhoods were covered with his face. Like, I make fun of your posts not only because you're over-analyzing a fairly straightforward show but because you just don't get some really simple stuff. Let me give you an example: the naked transformations are a staple of the genre and are not there to sexualize the girls, that's what the Sayaka butt-shots are for. Rebellion didn't want to de-sexualize them with the new transformations, they were instead focusing on having what scientists call rad-as-hell unorthodox transformation sequences and they did it! those rock (although I don't like madoka's) Finally, remember that the show comes from a culture where cute=sexy and 14-16 year old girls are, using words you'll understand, the ne plus ultra of femininity. They are definitely selling that, but being (mostly) classy about it. And I don't mind because the story is really drat good. trucutru fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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Jul 27, 2015 22:36
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there are literally seven different figurines of mami in a swimsuit
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Jul 27, 2015 22:38
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Endorph posted:there are literally seven different figurines of mami in a swimsuit *in my morpheus voice* show me
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Jul 27, 2015 22:43
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gently caress! I serious-posted. My favorite girl is Akemi. She deserves her meduka.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:44
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Nisekoi, while not for everyone, is an adorable show. I'm currently catching up on the manga, but it's a great harem, slice of life show if you're into that. I really enjoy the music in the show... the whole atmosphere reminds me of Fruits Basket in a way. I just hope they don't ruin it with a horrible dub.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:44
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Lots of fine anime gotta rely on the merch to pay those bills, and that's okay.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:44
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And heck, there are other merch heavy shows that that can be analyzed quite a bit! It doesn't detract from a show's depth at all.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:46
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Srice posted:And heck, there are other merch heavy shows that that can be analyzed quite a bit! It doesn't detract from a show's depth at all. Says the dude with a NGE avatar
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trucutru posted:Says the dude with a NGE avatar I deliberately didn't provide an example because that's exactly the show I was thinking about haha.
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