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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:I think that it might have been The Onion that opined that the tragedy was not that 100 people died, it was that more than 100 people went to see Great White in the first place. That would be t-shirt hell: "Great white kills every single one of its 100 fans."
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Helios Grime posted:Remember how escalators are meatgrinders descuised as transportation machinery. Well, that's the worst thing I've seen today.
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Jul 27, 2015 21:39
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, that's the worst thing I've seen today. I saw the un-pixelated version. She just...disappears. I used to work at a concert venue that was basically a deathtrap in the event of any kind of large scale emergency. Ask me about how fun that was.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:09
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Maybe I'm naive but is there no way to make it automatically stop if something, such as one of the thousands of living human being that use them, is detected in the mechanism? Like if a gear experiences resistance similar to what would be expected of human meat and just kills the motors or whatever?
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Jul 27, 2015 22:13
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hahaha do you have any idea how insanely expensive that would be, for like, one escalator
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Jul 27, 2015 22:24
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why were those two women waiting at the top of the escalator ?
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Jul 27, 2015 22:27
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According to the BBC article on the incident, a worker put the panel back after maintenance but forgot to put the screws in.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:28
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chitoryu12 posted:According to the BBC article on the incident, a worker put the panel back after maintenance but forgot to put the screws in. Really? As if that's the only issue with what happened.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:30
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the ladies standing at the top might have wanted to hit the emergency stop button as well
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Jul 27, 2015 22:34
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im full of poo poo posted:hahaha do you have any idea how insanely expensive that would be, for like, one escalator True... Which I guess means libertarian utopia China would be among the last countries to implement such a thing if it were to ever exist. chitoryu12 posted:According to the BBC article on the incident, a worker put the panel back after maintenance but forgot to put the screws in. quote:China has seen several escalator-related accidents in recent years, including an escalator in Shanghai that suddenly reversed direction in 2014, injuring 13 people lol
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Jul 27, 2015 22:39
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oh so they apparently knew there was a problem with the escalator and that the panel was faulty, and they had warned the lady who died. but they didn't think to hit the emergency stop button. whoops.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:41
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This is China, let's not assume it even has an emergency stop.
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Jul 27, 2015 22:58
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, that's the worst thing I've seen today. Ugh, not watching....I'm not familiar with how these things work; I'm picturing a slow moving junk yard crusher. Please tell me I'm wrong.
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Jul 27, 2015 23:21
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Quelle horreur 
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Jul 27, 2015 23:33
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Mak0rz posted:Maybe I'm naive but is there no way to make it automatically stop if something, such as one of the thousands of living human being that use them, is detected in the mechanism? Like if a gear experiences resistance similar to what would be expected of human meat and just kills the motors or whatever? I'm not familiar with elevator drives, but you can measure the amount of power being used by the drive feeding the motor that makes the escalator move (or for an elevator going down, it may actually overhaul and act like a generator rather than a motor). The problem from an electrical standpoint is, measuring power/current/voltage, how do you tell the difference between:
I was wondering if there's some kind of tensioner mechanism that could be employed. If the escalator broke, suddenly it would go slack, that slack would be detected, and the drive would be e-stopped with brakes applied. Like a failsafe mechanism - brakes held back, the tension keeps a limit switch pressed. If the limit switch opens, the thing automatically kicks in the brakes and stops the drive. * - I was at a mall where kids did this and, lo and behold, it did trip the drive.
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Jul 27, 2015 23:52
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FCKGW posted:The Onion doesn't generally make bad jokes about the victims of horrible tragedies. You're thinking of some random Twitter shithead. Nope. http://www.theonion.com/americanvoices/the-great-white-tragedy-14451
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Jul 28, 2015 00:21
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"I only feel safe inside a rock club when Lemmy is playing." Can't argue with that 
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JFairfax posted:décapité Surprised nobody died and it was just six injuries.
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mobby_6kl posted:"I only feel safe inside a rock club when Lemmy is playing." The Something Awful Forums > Main > General Bullshit > OSHA.JPG: How many more people have to die before no one ever dies again?
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Three-Phase posted:I'm not familiar with elevator drives, but you can measure the amount of power being used by the drive feeding the motor that makes the escalator move (or for an elevator going down, it may actually overhaul and act like a generator rather than a motor). What about just a stop bar like a wood chipper located right above the belt? Or if you want to get fancy, laser trip beams/whatever. Edit: \/\/\/\/ Probably cheaper in China fwiw Sockington fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Jul 28, 2015 |
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Jul 28, 2015 00:46
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Just employ small children or ex-jockeys to sit below the mechanism and watch for people being blended.
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Jul 28, 2015 01:00
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It sucks to have your flight re-routed due to weather, but I cannot imagine how terrifying it must have been to experience this landing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPVE2LY2Xqo
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Staryberry posted:It sucks to have your flight re-routed due to weather, but I cannot imagine how terrifying it must have been to experience this landing Looks like near the end he let his upwind wing get high just in time for a gust. It happens. Probably not as dramatic onboard as it looked from the outside, but the blogosphere loves this stuff
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Staryberry posted:It sucks to have your flight re-routed due to weather, but I cannot imagine how terrifying it must have been to experience this landing How much did it cost the airline to replace all those poo poo-stained seats?
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Jul 28, 2015 03:08
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This is a map of where the victims of the Station fire were found. Lesson? If there's a fire look for any other exit other than the main exit.
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Mak0rz posted:How much did it cost the airline to replace all those poo poo-stained seats? We had already made a redirect stop for gas after circling too long so anybody too sensitive was probably already passed out after the pilot announced we needed to stop at a nearby airport to fuel up.
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Jul 28, 2015 03:18
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zedprime posted:Not knowing what it looked like from the outside to know how comparable but having a very similar caught a crosswind 10 feet off the ground experience, everyone in a window seat probably just looked around confused like did that really just happen? Same and landed at Washington national. Scary but 'fun'
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`Nemesis posted:This is China, let's not assume it even has an emergency stop. I saw a big green button on the other esca going down. So I'm saying they didn't think, but she was falling 7 stories through crap metal bars and junk
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Jul 28, 2015 03:27
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VectorSigma posted:This is a map of where the victims of the Station fire were found. Yeah, that exit on the bottom right just above the dressing room is the one that the shithead bouncer wouldn't let people out of.
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While it was burning down? Why didn't the press of people just trample the douchebag?
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Arrath posted:While it was burning down? Why didn't the press of people just trample the douchebag? He got mentioned in the press but as far as I know, nothing ever happened to him. People were far more focused on the band's manager for setting off the pyrotechnics and the owners of the club for chaining two of the four exits shut and not installing a sprinkler system.
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Ten were in the kitchen, and I really wonder why nobody went into the cooler/freezer. Seems like that would be a pretty safe place to hole up, being metal and insulated and with a nice tight seal.
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DEAR RICHARD posted:I saw the un-pixelated version. She just...disappears. I once farted right while I was getting on an up escalator, just before a huge group of people. I've never heard an angrier silence.
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VectorSigma posted:Ten were in the kitchen, and I really wonder why nobody went into the cooler/freezer. Seems like that would be a pretty safe place to hole up, being metal and insulated and with a nice tight seal. That really just sounds like a way to get stuck in a terrible pressure cooker until you die a slow broiled death.
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VectorSigma posted:Ten were in the kitchen, and I really wonder why nobody went into the cooler/freezer. Seems like that would be a pretty safe place to hole up, being metal and insulated and with a nice tight seal. My best guess is that they probably didn't even know it was there. If you watch the video, you can see that it only took a couple of minutes before black smoke is just pouring out of the building. Even if they would have made it to the cooler, it might not have guaranteed their safety. The Hamlet chicken processing plant fire had a group of people that went into the walk in freezer to try to escape the fire but they died of smoke inhalation because they didn't close the door correctly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G5dWMXz8V8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire quote:An investigation was immediately launched by state authorities, joined one month later by federal investigators.[12] Investigators found indentations left on at least one door by people attempting to kick it down.[1] There were concentrations of bodies around fire exits[1] and inside a large walk-in freezer where panicked workers had sought shelter. Some sources thought they froze to death, in temperatures as low as −28 °F (−33 °C),[5] but the official report says they were killed by smoke infiltration around the improperly closed door. Twelve deaths occurred in the freezer. Five people survived there, but suffered injuries.[2] Timothy Bradly, North Carolina's Deputy Commissioner of Insurance, said that technically "There was not a single door in the plant that met the criteria of a fire exit." The owner of the plant was a huge racist piece of poo poo on top of everything else.
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slomomofo posted:Wasn't there a similar fire at show disaster that happened in Chicago within the last 10 years or so? IIRC the issue was only 1 exit and the stairs couldn't support the rush of people and collapsed with all of them on it (club was on the fourth floor or something like that). You might also be thinking of the porch/deck collapses that were a problem until the city brought the codes and enforcement up to date. An unusually large party + rotten or under-built multi-story decks that are on the back of lots of low-rise apartment buildings = bad time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Chicago_balcony_collapse
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FIRST TIME posted:I think it's been a long time since this has been posted in this thread. Never ever watch this loving video after the fire starts. I still have loving nightmares about the screams.
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That firefighter waiting with the nozzle for the pump to start at the 6 minute marker has probably never slept since.
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