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The main gist of which is that the crew Mr. Hands rolled with weren't really romantically or sexually attracted to horses, they were just in it for huge dicks and horses were a means to that end. So too, relevant to this thread, many furs aren't in to the scene because they want to gently caress bugs bunny, but rather, because they have fetishes for being pariahs of the internet, or being surrounded by crazy drama. Hanging around with people that draw vore porn and dress up as cartoon animals, unsurprisingly, being a lucrative avenue to fulfill those needs.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Also, the long-awaited Furry Force Part III is finally up. I am seriously in tears from laughter, holy poo poo, that was the funniest thing I've seen in ages.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Yes, that's John de Lancie himself voicing that Professor Pony. Jon de Lancie himself actually hit upon the reason why the MLP:FIM fandom has produced so much decent-and-better fanworks. He used Star Trek as an example - people who take an interest in Star Trek tend to also take an interest in science. (This, by the way, may go toward explaining why so much fanwork is lovely - they're wrong-brained for it - that is, if you subscribe to the logical-half-creative-half model of the human brain. There's also the fact that people who get good enough at art, writing etc. tend to make money off of it and you can't do that with fanworks.) But people interested in MLP:FIM tend to also take in interest in creative endeavors such as art, writing and music. The work attracted the kinds of people more likely to make decent fanworks.
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Sam Likes Cake, if you're still here, do you have any interesting, fun, or cute suiting stories? (Yours or friends'?) Looks like you're at a bowling alley in that one photo.
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BiggerJ posted:Jon de Lancie himself actually hit upon the reason why the MLP:FIM fandom has produced so much decent-and-better fanworks. He used Star Trek as an example - people who take an interest in Star Trek tend to also take an interest in science. (This, by the way, may go toward explaining why so much fanwork is lovely - they're wrong-brained for it - that is, if you subscribe to the logical-half-creative-half model of the human brain. There's also the fact that people who get good enough at art, writing etc. tend to make money off of it and you can't do that with fanworks.) But people interested in MLP:FIM tend to also take in interest in creative endeavors such as art, writing and music. The work attracted the kinds of people more likely to make decent fanworks. If any of this were true there would be any decent fanworks ever for either Star Trek or MLP and there's not, so
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As with most things, the majority of fan works are crap, and you've got to comb through to find the few diamonds in the rough. I'm more of an original works fan myself, but I can respect good fan art: http://orig03.deviantart.net/d08c/f/2014/199/3/8/the_light_and_the_night_by_the_sixthleafclover-d7r8o9q.jpg http://sophiecabra.deviantart.com/gallery/
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Is this good fanart as well? http://i.imgur.com/fpLLkKm.png I'm not sure I understand the differentiating factor.
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Tartarus Sauce posted:Sam Likes Cake, if you're still here, do you have any interesting, fun, or cute suiting stories? (Yours or friends'?) Looks like you're at a bowling alley in that one photo. I have good ones and bad ones. The bad ones are always more entertaining but I'll try to remember some of both. Good one: I was at an anime convention with another fursuiter and we were just kind of goofing off outside the dealers room. A mom & daughter came up to us. Mom was looking pretty stressed out and tired, probably didn't really want to be there. Daughter was maybe 17 or so, clearly a bit delayed mentally. We had seen them earlier and daughter looked like she was about ten seconds away from some kind of major meltdown. When she saw two giant smiley dog-people she got this huge, amazed grin and wanted pictures, hugs, etc. She obviously knew we weren't REAL, but she played right along. She took us by the hand and we went all through the dealers room together. Every time she found something cute or funny she pointed it out to us. It was clear that this girl was so loving hyped to be at this convention and to have these two giant fluffy critters to hang out with really made her day. Mom was super thankful. Bad story: I got stealth-groped by a creepy ghost man. It was a Halloween con so it was kind of weirdly appropriate. A weird little man sidled right up to me and got way too friendly, stroking and poo poo. I quickly turned to get my friend's attention, and when we turned back the guy was GONE. Straight up vanished. I don't even know if he was WITH the con. He was in his 50's and pretty well-dressed. Obviously he was a pro creeper seeing as he peaced the gently caress out of there like a ninja when I reacted negatively to the attention. I was there with a group of 6 people and NOT ONE of them saw him. Clearly I was molested by the Dapper Fur Con Ghost.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Christian Furries This guy existed way before any of that. EDIT 3: On second thought this is a bit more 'naming names' and on the nose than it should be. Old Boot fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Sizone posted:The main gist of which is that the crew Mr. Hands rolled with weren't really romantically or sexually attracted to horses, they were just in it for huge dicks and horses were a means to that end. So too, relevant to this thread, many furs aren't in to the scene because they want to gently caress bugs bunny, but rather, because they have fetishes for being pariahs of the internet, or being surrounded by crazy drama. Hanging around with people that draw vore porn and dress up as cartoon animals, unsurprisingly, being a lucrative avenue to fulfill those needs. Or they have weird-rear end fetishes period. Furries are tolerant toward all kinds of weird fetishes (explaining why furry crosses over with so many fetishes) because they have been excluded by so many people that they have come to think that all exclusion is bad. Okay, most exclusion - they've stopped tolerating pedophilia ('cub porn') so drat much, but it's a sad state of affairs when managing that is impressive.
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I think you guys missed the "fursace" underwear parade at the Anthrocon this year. Go check out the @FursaceClub twitter. These morons went out marching holding furry art that is quite nsfw and around children. The company was started by some kid in Columbus and some in Pittsburgh to create fashion (aka sexualize) their fursuits. They even sell stuffers to make up for their lack of package. The convention themselves banned them from having a table as it's not "family oriented" from what I learned. What gets me is they want to be not known as fetishists, but when they do this stuff, that makes me believe they are and some.
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It's hypocritical as hell. I was laughing about this with a friend over the weekend. Putting a fake dick and balls on a fursuit is weird enough, but to walk around with that poo poo on in public is the worst, IMO.
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SamLikesCake posted:It's hypocritical as hell. I was laughing about this with a friend over the weekend. Putting a fake dick and balls on a fursuit is weird enough, but to walk around with that poo poo on in public is the worst, IMO. Don't worry, I'm sure furries have written up a treatise on how it's just like gay pride parades.
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What's infuriating is that lots of people will eagerly complain or snipe online, but then not do anything about the actual problem, like telling someone to stop doing something crappy or obnoxious, or taking steps to boot out someone who's toxic. People do end up being ostracized from the community as a whole, but you usually have to repeatedly push the envelope in a major way before that happens--and even then, you'll still have some naive, oblivious sorts and fellow enablers who'll try to white-knight for even the creepiest of creepers and scummiest of scumbags. (Case in point: there was a guy on social media who wanted to invite the afore-linked notorious guy to live with him, so that he could "heal" him by being his pal. Fortunately, he was shouted down by about 100 other people who told him this was an idiotic idea.) Uncle Kage unfortunately takes some flack for running a tight ship and cracking down on hijinks at Anthrocon, because a few people resent having anyone tell them they can't express their unique and snowflaky self any way they want. The geek social fallacy is definitely in play here, as is the fact that you're largely dealing with geeky young people who don't know how to navigate social conflicts, don't know how to stand up to people when they're being rude or obnoxious, don't have a good "radar" for detecting toxic people, and want very badly to be liked by everyone. You also have the other standard problem of people (especially--but not only--young people) wanting to "express themselves," and being oblivious to how their "self-expression" affects others. Some of them also believe that being "proud" of who you are is fundamentally about having zero filters, because filtering or checking yourself somehow implies that you're "ashamed" of who you are. You also have a few types who'll declare, in typical teenage fashion, that they aren't "responsible" for the rest of the community. (But boy, do some of them whine when they receive teasing or blowback for being furries!) Across geek fandoms, I tend to notice that a lot of the drama and trouble originates with people who've never gotten any solid social training, with a smaller chunk of the drama and trouble originating with genuine psychopaths and leeches who seek to exploit said folks. There are also basic and fundamental culture-clashes that sometimes emerge, too, between people from more conservative regions of the world, and people from more liberal ones. But, you can't let the turkeys get you down. Like with any community or social group, you've got to find the cool people and sniff out and avoid the crappy ones. Tartarus Sauce fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Out of all the GSFs it's the toleration of antisocial behavior and fear of ostracism that always fascinates me because it really does cause some geek fandoms to go batshit crazy in a heartbeat. You all know the story: nerd gets hated in his teenage years because of his appearance or interests and has a small social circle as a result and wishes to not be like that to anyone (story of my life). After graduation, the social world opens up for them and they discover people LIKE them who were hated and have a common interest. Then arrive the people who were ostracized in their teenage years for a GOOD reason (they are scumbags with antisocial tendencies) because it's why we as adults look down on CP enablers and such because it's a bad thing. They enter the geeky world with that common background (maybe they weren't into anime and video games in their teenage years...but they will be now) and all of a sudden we have making GBS threads dicknipple bestiality porn that gets defended with "that doesn't represent all of us". It's almost like they are held hostage thinking that a social circle is mandatory for survival and fear being rejected because they were like THEM in saying "that's sick poo poo dude, you're hosed" and maybe won't be invited to the Magic the Gathering party later. Instead of, you know, figuring out that part of adult life is being an self-sustaining individual. I wrote a lot about this; one thing I will say is that frat houses are more clean and organized than ANY nerd lair I've been to by far.
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SamLikesCake posted:It's hypocritical as hell. I was laughing about this with a friend over the weekend. Putting a fake dick and balls on a fursuit is weird enough, but to walk around with that poo poo on in public is the worst, IMO. I found it amusing and hilarious one of their models is supposedly a guy who is like a public figure and hosts bowling meets at their local AMF just south of Pittsburgh. He wants no one to tell his ex what he's doing as he pretends to sleep around wearing chastity locks to make himself look bigger. A lot of these guys in my area are pervs. There's another one that was in the post gazette. He supposedly sleeps around and owns a "murr suit" to gently caress around with and is highly notorious as a local slut. He is also a public figure that hosts meet ups. Then there's another one called who wears hockey gear that also fucks around. He supposedly runs their pa-furry.org site feed or something of that nature. My question is, why parade these people and respect them as local royalty? Stupid_Punk fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Here is the article from the local paper on them: http://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/anthrocon/meet-the-furries/ Let me tell you what I know about the ones from Pittsburgh Zippo Wolf I never seen him before nor heard of him Goku Mcginsky there's a lot of things on that guy, he's seems creepy. RC I've seen him at the local hockey games and out at the local ski resort. I never met the guy personally, but he seems like an ok guy. I can't find anything on him because searching him yields RC airplanes. The rest on that article I've never met at all. Stupid_Punk fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 00:47
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Stupid_Punk posted:Goku Mcginsky ha ha ha
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how many british furries are horrible public school types? Does being abandoned at a public school make you furry or is it a class illness that has its genesis in the home??
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Baracula posted:how many british furries are horrible public school types? Does being abandoned at a public school make you furry or is it a class illness that has its genesis in the home?? Very few as a percentage, but about in line with the expected number in the general population. Also kids aren't really 'abandoned' as such at schools these days- that stereotype is a generation or two out of date. Also apologies for being slow to respond to this thread in general- started a new job this week which has left me way too shattered to bother much with SA.
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not sure if this has already been posted but this is crucial to any discussion on furries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_TKgWDZiv4
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Kanine posted:not sure if this has already been posted but this is crucial to any discussion on furries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_TKgWDZiv4
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You both got it right! I came across one of their websites http://www.pa-furry.org/ where a lot of them congregate. I picked up a free account and popped in on their chat room right in the middle of their argument between a few about wearing underwear over their suit. Most of the time it's quite boring, but there are times when it gets packed. I wish you luck if you decide to sit in on their chatroom.
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This video is still loving amazing, I love it
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Who made the suit? Where would buy a fursuit if you didn't already have one? ....asking for a friend
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error1 posted:Who made the suit? Where would buy a fursuit if you didn't already have one? A guy in Florida who goes by Media built it. He does some really great work and is a really professional guy. He's on the higher end as far as price, but the work is solid and I think it shows. There are dozens of fursuit makers out there, some great and some not-so-great. Review communities exist on FA and Tumblr. If you want to throw down the money for something like a fursuit, do some research first. I've seen a lot of people get hosed over. Like anything else, you get what you pay for. A $300 suit is probably going to look like poo poo and fall apart after two or three outings.
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SamLikesCake posted:A guy in Florida who goes by Media built it. He does some really great work and is a really professional guy. He's on the higher end as far as price, but the work is solid and I think it shows. And that's assuming you don't get ripped off. My girlfriend lost about £700 back in 2011 when Avsun did the whole 'take on a shitload of commissions and then disappear' poo poo. Lot of people lost cash there. Oh, and Vic will probably be delighted by this, but eh. A Wisconsin furry and ex-fiancé of my best buddy got busted with child porn on his laptop, tried to pin the blame on his best friend and now is trying to crowdfund his defence. Dude is a loving freak, and truly creepy around women, so much so that when I heard he had been banged up I thought it would be for some form of sexual assault rather than this. https://www.crowdrise.com/justiceforjason/fundraiser/reneejudkins Funny story- when he came over to visit my friend they originally weren't going to let him into the country as the border guards thought he was a 'vulnerable individual'.
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Camrath posted:And that's assuming you don't get ripped off. My girlfriend lost about £700 back in 2011 when Avsun did the whole 'take on a shitload of commissions and then disappear' poo poo. Lot of people lost cash there. I am delighted that this apparently autistic furry got arrested on child porn charges. Delighted! This comic doesn't seem like a parody either. Check some of those speech bubbles. 
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Vic posted:I am delighted that this apparently autistic furry got arrested on child porn charges. Delighted! It's probably not a parody. 'Cosplay =/= Consent' is a thing, apparently. And there's nothing the furry fandom does better than ripping off other people's memes and putting fuzzy animals in them. It is also a genuine problem- while some fursuit specifically to /get/ attention of that ilk, a lot of furries are retarded enough to assume that all do. I know my gf has been felt up/over-embraced or whatever countless times when in her suits.
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Camrath posted:It is also a genuine problem- while some fursuit specifically to /get/ attention of that ilk, a lot of furries are retarded enough to assume that all do. I know my gf has been felt up/over-embraced or whatever countless times when in her suits. Well, and I mentioned before that "outsiders" also have a tendency to creep on cosplayers and suiters as well. Plenty of my friends have been groped or fondled by members of the public who first asked to take photos with them, for instance, and several of my furry friends have complained about total strangers or relative acquaintances making rude comments or asking them hosed up questions about their sex lives. Regardless of who does it, it's just creepy. Re: suits, personally, I'm always impressed by Beastcub and Clockwork Creatures.
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Vic posted:I am delighted that this apparently autistic furry got arrested on child porn charges. Delighted! Okay I can understand admiring a costume, but do people actually think a particular fursuit might be sexy? You have no idea who's under there so you're just sexualizing a sack of latex and fur. The yiffing scene from that one CSI episode can't be real.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Okay I can understand admiring a costume, but do people actually think a particular fursuit might be sexy? You have no idea who's under there so you're just sexualizing a sack of latex and fur. People assume porn tumblrs are run by girls just because they have a (naked) girl in their avatar. People are definitely going to assume that the human in the sexy girl cat costume is in reality a sexy girl.
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If a person presents themselves as a woman, shouldn't we treat them like a woman?
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Camrath posted:'Cosplay =/= Consent' is a thing, apparently. I honestly feel like Fursuits (out of sexual content) is pretty much cosplay and as somebody who used to cosplay like crazy as a teen (and got seriously harassed a lot even in outfits that weren't tight or revealing whatsoever) so it's relevant. People get really loving freaky when they see Samus walking around and love to run up and grab your tits and go "OH YOUR BREAST PLATE WAS SLIPPING!" and it's pretty gross. I used to do heads for fursuits for a pal of mine (and some light sewing like gloves, boot covers and single-sale tails). The prices people pay to look like a fox or a dog are loving ridiculous. It financed my video games for years. I've considered getting back into it for a while now that I've got a sewing machine again. I'm not a furry, but I sure don't mind making money off of weird little niches.
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Camrath posted:And that's assuming you don't get ripped off. My girlfriend lost about £700 back in 2011 when Avsun did the whole 'take on a shitload of commissions and then disappear' poo poo. Lot of people lost cash there. I remember that poo poo-show. Something really similar happened with a newer maker named OneEyedDoe. Her work was actually really good, but it turns out that she had A LOT of issues and deleted loving everything a couple times. Pretty sure she owes a bunch of people suits or tails or something. But she's in the same fandom as me, so she can't possibly be a scam artist, right? There are artists in the fandom who have scammed people out of thousands of dollars. When I get some free time I'll have to make a post about Starfinder.
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Shbobdb posted:If a person presents themselves as a woman, shouldn't we treat them like a woman? I think having a girl in your avatar isn't really someone presenting themselves as a woman, but it is pretty likely that the person in the sexy catgirl suit does identify as female. Still doesn't make groping and crude behavior appropriate treatment tho.
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"Cosplay =/= Consent" is really a thing. I did security once for a comic convention and getting reports of creepers touching Wonder Woman cosplayers or taking photos of people (right in front of their face, no less) were fairly common. It really is though one of those "get 10,000 people in a room and chances are one of them is a pervert" but I imagine there are far too many people who defend such a stupid thing. It's really one of those cases where nerds just don't seem to understand you wouldn't hug/touch someone on the street and just because someone is dressed up like Catwoman doesn't change that.
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Justin Godscock posted:It's really one of those cases where nerds just don't seem to understand you wouldn't hug/touch someone on the street and just because someone is dressed up like Catwoman doesn't change that. "If she didn't want it then she shouldn't have dressed up like a fictional character designed to become the masturbatory fantasy of Nice Guys like myself." --The internal monologue of every subhuman ever
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What's the deal with badges? I see they come up a lot with fursuit sales. Is it just a picture of the character, and doesn't that seem redundant having a picture on you of what you already are supposed to be?
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Justin Godscock posted:"Cosplay =/= Consent" is really a thing. I did security once for a comic convention and getting reports of creepers touching Wonder Woman cosplayers or taking photos of people (right in front of their face, no less) were fairly common. It really is though one of those "get 10,000 people in a room and chances are one of them is a pervert" but I imagine there are far too many people who defend such a stupid thing. I think I wasn't clear about what I meant- obviously, wearing a costume of any sort shouldn't open you up to harassment! I'm a security professional who worked a lot of cons in my time, and people really don't seem to get the hint about that. I was more commenting on the direct copying of the wording of the slogan. TunaSpleen posted:What's the deal with badges? I see they come up a lot with fursuit sales. Is it just a picture of the character, and doesn't that seem redundant having a picture on you of what you already are supposed to be? Generally badges are worn to help identify by name both in and out of suit, as well as another way to show off art of your character. Sort of like peacocking, I guess.
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