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Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

SirPhoebos posted:

I'm guessing I'm not the first person to accidentally hand in current gear for the GC Expert Delivery. :shepface:

Oh well it wasn't like I was using gil for anything else.

The default option hides gear that is in gearsets, I believe, so I don't think I've ever actually done this.

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Magil Zeal posted:

The default option hides gear that is in gearsets, I believe, so I don't think I've ever actually done this.

Fun fact: this is only true of GC turn ins, levequests don't discriminate :shepface:

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Magil Zeal posted:

The default option hides gear that is in gearsets, I believe, so I don't think I've ever actually done this.

Huh, wonder how I hosed up then :sweatdrop:

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008


I hope they revise the current red scrip system. The possibility of blowing up or wasting weekly scrips is one of the things that makes me think "gently caress it" more than anything else. I don't mind wasting hundred-thousands or even millions of gil because that is easy to get if you put your mind to it, but the brick wall of the weekly cap is a different beast.

It also seems like a lot of the complexity is needless--why are the caps so low and the costs so high, forcing you to go with an in-between of spending scrips on tokens then exchanging the tokens? Is it a server back-end thing? Not to mention the somewhat esoteric means of acquiring all that you need to craft a 2-star item--there are a lot of individual steps involved when you stop to consider it! I mean, it functions in a sense, but there seem to be about two or three more steps in there than there need to be, to me.

Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 28, 2015

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I've probably gotten rid of gear on gearsets more than I'd like to admit accidentally (usually through materia conversion).

Is there a setting to turn on a warning that says "hey this is in a gearset, sure you wanna do this?" cause that'd sure be swell.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

seiferguy posted:

I've probably gotten rid of gear on gearsets more than I'd like to admit accidentally (usually through materia conversion).

Is there a setting to turn on a warning that says "hey this is in a gearset, sure you wanna do this?" cause that'd sure be swell.

Not that I'm aware of, but items that are in a gearset have a special icon on the bottom-right of the inventory graphic.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

seiferguy posted:

I've probably gotten rid of gear on gearsets more than I'd like to admit accidentally (usually through materia conversion).

Is there a setting to turn on a warning that says "hey this is in a gearset, sure you wanna do this?" cause that'd sure be swell.

There's a little icon on anything that is in a gearset, and you can right click it to pull up a list of what gearsets.


Fister Roboto posted:

I always love people who come up with these ridiculously lengthy "rotations" rather than just learning to play it by ear.

Ugh seriously, that's basically my favorite thing about WAR, I don't think in terms of "rotation" I think "what do I need to do right now, and what cool poo poo can I get away with?" Optimizing for the particular fight and party composition can turn you from good to great, too.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Eej posted:

Chyea and friends switched to DRK for A3S, thereby cementing DRK as king of MT mountain.

This just means my decision to hit 60 with DRK next is the right one.

Unfortunately my group has more or less forbidden me from playing anything other than monk for raid content. :negative: Well, once we replace the guys who skipped out on us (for the second time), anyway.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Boten Anna posted:

There's a little icon on anything that is in a gearset, and you can right click it to pull up a list of what gearsets.

It doesn't appear when you're turning in stuff to the GC, I think.

Which is responsible for my turning in low level gear from time to time.

Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

ApplesandOranges posted:

It doesn't appear when you're turning in stuff to the GC, I think.

Which is responsible for my turning in low level gear from time to time.

That's because, at least for Expert Delivery, there's a scroll bar at the top which has as one of its options, "hide items in a gearset" or something worded similarly.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Magil Zeal posted:

I hope they revise the current red scrip system. The possibility of blowing up or wasting weekly scrips is one of the things that makes me think "gently caress it" more than anything else. I don't mind wasting hundreds or even millions of gil because that is easy to get if you put your mind to it, but the brick wall of the weekly cap is a different beast.

It also seems like a lot of the complexity is needless--why are the caps so low and the costs so high, forcing you to go with an in-between of spending scrips on tokens then exchanging the tokens? Is it a server back-end thing? Not to mention the somewhat esoteric means of acquiring all that you need to craft a 2-star item--there are a lot of individual steps involved when you stop to consider it! I mean, it functions in a sense, but there seem to be about two or three more steps in there than there need to be, to me.

Are there any flowcharts or simply laid out, yet specific instructions for the path to take once you have DoH classes to 60? I find myself overwhelmed by the whole process.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Thundarr posted:

This just means my decision to hit 60 with DRK next is the right one.

Unfortunately my group has more or less forbidden me from playing anything other than monk for raid content. :negative: Well, once we replace the guys who skipped out on us (for the second time), anyway.

I might give DRK another try when 3.1 rolls around and I see what (if any) QoL improvements they get. With my Warrior getting 56 last night (and learning from FC chat that Raw Intuition is in fact very good since they changed parrying, even without the WrathAbandon stack) there's no reason at this point not to take it to 60 and play it a while though.

I've been neglecting doing EXes and Alexander as MNK, though. I don't have hardly any tank gear waiting for WAR 60 :(

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

ApplesandOranges posted:

It doesn't appear when you're turning in stuff to the GC, I think.

Which is responsible for my turning in low level gear from time to time.

For several patches now, by default it hides everything in your armory chest, and there's others that hide anything not in a gearset and such in a drop-down menu at the top of the window. Please check it out!

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Gammatron 64 posted:

macros

Thoughts?

Don't use macros in combat if you care about playing well.

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

Things Raw Intuition works well on:
- Single targets, especially bosses
- Multiple targets if they're both few and small enough that they all stay in front (relatively rare, all things considered)
- Enemies that melee-swing a lot
- Enemies whose specials can't be manually dodged, but can be parried (quite a few miscellaneous cleaves fall under this)

Things it works poorly, if not counterproductively, on:
- Multiple targets if they're either numerous or large enough that they fan around to your sides to politely give each other room (read: most trash packs)
- Enemies that use a lot of non-parryable (notably: magic) damage
- Enemies which like to make orange ground markers to manually dodge

When used in a situation where its auto-parry will kick in for most or all of the incoming damage, it's like an Inner Beast with a much longer duration, since parries are a flat 20% damage reduction now.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

It's REALLY satisfying to use one that one fractal boss that hits you a ton of times in a row, or for any mechanic like that of which they have been putting in more because of Raw Intuition

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
If you are going to use macros for combat, go get a bot for combat assist.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Ciaphas posted:

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I've been neglecting doing EXes and Alexander as MNK, though. I don't have hardly any tank gear waiting for WAR 60 :(

Luckily law tomes fall like rain and law gear is cheap. It won't take too much effort to get yourself some starter gear. I had to stop buying law sets for future alts because my retainers are out of room. :v:

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Okay, okay, I won't use macros at all.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Is there any unofficial word on how well the game plays with Windows 10? I have Windows 7 and I will probably wait to upgrade till I hear something on that.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
Been playing just fine on Win10.

Scrublord Prime
Nov 27, 2007


Vil posted:

Things Raw Intuition works well on:
- Single targets, especially bosses
- Multiple targets if they're both few and small enough that they all stay in front (relatively rare, all things considered)
- Enemies that melee-swing a lot
- Enemies whose specials can't be manually dodged, but can be parried (quite a few miscellaneous cleaves fall under this)

Things it works poorly, if not counterproductively, on:
- Multiple targets if they're either numerous or large enough that they fan around to your sides to politely give each other room (read: most trash packs)
- Enemies that use a lot of non-parryable (notably: magic) damage
- Enemies which like to make orange ground markers to manually dodge

When used in a situation where its auto-parry will kick in for most or all of the incoming damage, it's like an Inner Beast with a much longer duration, since parries are a flat 20% damage reduction now.

How does Raw Intuition and Awareness work together? I never tried it and now I'm curious which would take precedence (I'd assume Awareness). How about popping RI and then canceling the buff altogether? Only really useful if you need that one extra stack right away but if you're doing dungeon mobs and know RI will be back up before the next time you can use the stack+parry it seems like it'd be a decent ogcd thing to do. e: as long as you have nothing else that needs to be done for that ogcd, I mean

kafziel
Nov 11, 2009

I'm kinda curious why he Reclaimed in the first place. Nothing in his opening rotation, before he said "This is looking like a reclaim", was RNG-dependent. What went wrong?

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

The problem with Awareness is that it is poo poo compared to Internal Release or Featherfoot except for maybe some marginal use situations.

I do wish the crit healing from side/back thing was a feature and not a bug, that was actually an intensely interesting mechanic.

kafziel posted:

I'm kinda curious why he Reclaimed in the first place. Nothing in his opening rotation, before he said "This is looking like a reclaim", was RNG-dependent. What went wrong?

He's probably trying to HQ

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Boten Anna posted:

It's REALLY satisfying to use one that one fractal boss that hits you a ton of times in a row, or for any mechanic like that of which they have been putting in more because of Raw Intuition

Goblins have a triple-swing move, but somehow, it's more satisfying to see a half-dozen or so goblins' parries on each hit, as opposed to just smaller numbers.

GreatRedSpirit posted:

How does Raw Intuition and Awareness work together?

You will auto-parry anything from the front, and hits taken from the side and/or back are normal hits.

Boten Anna posted:

The problem with Awareness is that it is poo poo compared to Internal Release or Featherfoot except for maybe some marginal use situations.

I do wish the crit healing from side/back thing was a feature and not a bug, that was actually an intensely interesting mechanic.


He's probably trying to HQ


Wait, what CC skills do you have again?

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jul 28, 2015

seorin
May 23, 2005

2 Sun's Dusk (Day 78)
Of the Seven Visions of Seven Trials of the Incarnate, I have now fulfilled the Fifth Trial.

Eimi posted:

Not everything is about dps numbers.

This exactly. I loved BLM for how relaxed it was with long cast times and a simple rotation. I like leveling, so I have plenty else to play when I want something more active, but BLM was great for doing stuff with friends when I'm tired (which is most of the time).

2 SPOOKY
Sep 9, 2010

Always Be Alert!

Niton posted:

Incidentally, SealRock.jpg, or "why bad RNG doesn't matter at all":



Please play (and enjoy) Seal Rock, it is A Good PvP Experience.

This. I do not enjoy the 2.x pvp, but Seal Rock is Good and Fun. Doubly good because of the fast queue times for now, which will probably taper off sooner or later.

So please at least try to help your team though if you queue. Don't be the person who queued for their esoterics and actively harms the enjoyment of the people in there because they care about pvp.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

kafziel posted:

I'm kinda curious why he Reclaimed in the first place. Nothing in his opening rotation, before he said "This is looking like a reclaim", was RNG-dependent. What went wrong?

Honestly it just looks like he was counting on miracle procs or for that HT to succeed. His CP is too low for the rotation he was attempting. Also he was a specialist and didn't even have Nymeia in his bar.

I think he needed an extreme amount of luck to be able to HQ that item.

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Wait, what CC skills do you have again?

Flash, provoke, convalescence, featherfoot, internal release

kafziel
Nov 11, 2009

seorin posted:

This exactly. I loved BLM for how relaxed it was with long cast times and a simple rotation. I like leveling, so I have plenty else to play when I want something more active, but BLM was great for doing stuff with friends when I'm tired (which is most of the time).

That was the nice thing about ARR Black Mage. Your rotation was dead simple and very forgiving, and the challenge of the class was executing it with long hard cast times in fights with movement and positioning. You clipped casts to move when you could, and if you had to cancel a cast to move out of something, it was fine, because you could just start casting again. None of that's true anymore. Well, except the part about long hardcasts, that's still very much in effect.

I feel like they could easily fix the entire class by making Fire IV and Blizzard IV instant-casts, or like 1 second cast bars maybe. Suddenly every problem that's ruining the way it plays drifts away. You still have the same concerns and priorities, but you don't have the headache of it anymore.

primaltrash
Feb 11, 2008

(Thought-ful Croak)

Boten Anna posted:

Flash, provoke, convalescence, featherfoot, internal release

Featherfoot doesn't work on bosses, only trash IIRC.

Awareness is better even if its situational because it will work.

kojei
Feb 12, 2008

armoredgorilla posted:

Featherfoot doesn't work on bosses, only trash IIRC.

Awareness is better even if its situational because it will work.

it barely even works on trash. featherfoot is a garbage ability

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

I'm not in love with Awareness, but it's a tossup as to whether I like it better than Second Wind and both of them solidly trounce Featherfoot in my book. The other four are gimmes.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Vil posted:

I'm not in love with Awareness, but it's a tossup as to whether I like it better than Second Wind and both of them solidly trounce Featherfoot in my book. The other four are gimmes.

Not getting crit is pretty nice. Pair it with other defensives.

seorin
May 23, 2005

2 Sun's Dusk (Day 78)
Of the Seven Visions of Seven Trials of the Incarnate, I have now fulfilled the Fifth Trial.

kafziel posted:

I feel like they could easily fix the entire class by making Fire IV and Blizzard IV instant-casts, or like 1 second cast bars maybe. Suddenly every problem that's ruining the way it plays drifts away. You still have the same concerns and priorities, but you don't have the headache of it anymore.

They could also make it feel a lot less strict if B4 could finish even after Enochian expires. Maybe even make that the goal, like trying to not clip a DoT - if Enochian expires, B4 gives you a full, fresh Enochian instead of just a partial refresh. Possibly up the cooldown on Enochian to compensate (though that just makes movement at the wrong time gently caress you even harder).

Personally, I'd be happy if B4 and F4 refreshed Umbral/Astral. You'd still use F3 and B3 to quick swap to the opposite, but you wouldn't have the headache of juggling your Umbral/Astral timers along with the Enochian timer and your mana. Then it would really feel a lot more like an evolution on the 2.x BLM instead of a departure to a near completely different playstyle.

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!
hmm, do i take this ability that's useful and negates the downside to raw intuition

or do i take an entirely useless ability because i dont do any content outside of bismarck extreme

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Don't be like that. Look, from all I know, defensive cooldowns are multiplicative, not additive. (The go-to example being that if a PLD turns on Shield Oath, Rampart, and Sentinel, they do not get 85% damage reduction, but closer to something like 62%, which the math bears out.)

If you could tell me for a fact that evasion is treated additively, as opposed to multiplicatively, I would consider using Featherfoot in place of Awareness. In the absence of such evidence, however, and owing to the fact that WAR is a little short on CDs that reduce magic damage, I'll take Awareness and use it to keep my incoming damage non-spiky as I have pre-HW, or pair it with Raw Intuition and cheese the drawback.

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jul 28, 2015

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
Speaking of crafting a bit earlier up in the thread, where do I go to learn "how to craft" these days? I sort of have it all figured out low level, but now that I have some classes at 50+ everything has gotten a lot more difficult. Things take like double the steps and I'm a bit lost as to how to HQ anything. I did notice that people are actually using the elemental brand synth in conjunction with the new ability that boosts them, but that's all I've really figured out. Is there a guide to rotations somewhere? Googling leads to like 8 million different rotations and none of them seem to really get me HQ on even this level 50 stuff.

I have CRP, WVR, ALC, and CUL all at 50 and I'm working on getting the others to 50 but I'm mostly limited by leves at the moment.

EDIT: Similar question, when should I upgrade my gear from 50-60? Obviously at 60 I'll just make a full HQ crafted set, but when in between?

Poultron fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jul 28, 2015

Boten Anna
Feb 22, 2010

The problem is that featherfoot and awareness are both dumb

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SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Still less-dumb than Second Wind or Haymaker.

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