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Yeah if it was something stronger like Pine Sol or something it's possible it's melting the plastic or the paint. Get a new cap but honestly I don't even know where my front caps are 90% of the time so it's not the most pressing thing
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Worthwhile clear filter for a Canon 24-105 /4 L? It's 77mm across, not sure what's a good choice. Would this do the trick?
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Tricerapowerbottom posted:Worthwhile clear filter for a Canon 24-105 /4 L? It's 77mm across, not sure what's a good choice. Would this do the trick? Why? If it's just for weather sealing, what conditions will you encounter?
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Jul 29, 2015 01:56
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torgeaux posted:Why? If it's just for weather sealing, what conditions will you encounter? I don't understand your question, I don't think. I'm just looking for a clear filter that won't cause odd light effects and will keep poo poo from touching the surface of the big negative meniscus at the end. My other hobby keeps me outdoors a lot, and in a lot of environments, so there's potential for sand, grit, smoke, water, branches, whatever to touch it.
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Tricerapowerbottom posted:I don't understand your question, I don't think. I'm just looking for a clear filter that won't cause odd light effects and will keep poo poo from touching the surface of the big negative meniscus at the end. My other hobby keeps me outdoors a lot, and in a lot of environments, so there's potential for sand, grit, smoke, water, branches, whatever to touch it. Easy. The lens Hood for that lens will protect it fine. A clear filter is only necessary for harsh conditions, driving rain, sand storms, predictable salt water spray. Short of that, don't put glass between you and your subject.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:14
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http://www.amazon.com/Marumi-77mm-Protect-Filter-Japan/dp/B000WMFYKM This works too at half the price. No filter is perfect, but it's a must if you're planning on selling the lens, IMO. Nothing kills the value of a lens faster than a scratch on the glass, even if it has zero impact on the picture (especially on the front element). The 24-105 is fairly cheap used though since it's a pack-in lens. I'd suggest a hood as well.
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Constellation I posted:http://www.amazon.com/Marumi-77mm-Protect-Filter-Japan/dp/B000WMFYKM Please, read the thread title.
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I shoot outdoors in shyte conditions every chance I get. I never use filters that don't do something dramatic, like polarize the light or make everything orange or put idiotic stars around every point-source of light in the shot. I like to post this picture whenever this discussion comes up. There's a couple of paragraphs under it on Flickr, but the tl/dr is: no UV filters!  Lifted Up Dome 14 by Martin Brummell, on FlickrYou wanna talk about weather-sealing? Here, have a waterfall - again, no goddam UV filter, non-WR lens on a Pentax WR body (but that combination means no-WR, effectively), and no damage to either lens or camera:  SD 115 Four Waterfalls 61 by Martin Brummell, on Flickr
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You basically have to go out of your way or drop your camera to scratch the front element, they're very durable. If you just put a lens hood over the front and maybe put the front cap back on when you take it off, you'll never get any notable scratches.
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This is an EF-3 tornado with wind speeds of 150mph that leveled half a town: This is so close that you can't see both edges of the tornado:  I took lovely pictures because it was dark as hell and I didn't have a tripod, but the lens was just fine with no UV filter. luchadornado fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 03:11
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I like UV filters because it means when I buy a used lens, the glass is in pristine condition. But as soon as I can, the filter comes off and it goes in the trash.
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Geektox posted:Yeah if it was something stronger like Pine Sol or something it's possible it's melting the plastic or the paint. Get a new cap but honestly I don't even know where my front caps are 90% of the time so it's not the most pressing thing I found a good deal!   Also, D600 arrived today. It's really nice. Looking forward to taking it out and about this weekend to give it a good test run.
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Why did you go on a tirade about UV filters. The dude asked about clear glass filters, not UV.
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Ineptitude posted:Why did you go on a tirade about UV filters. The dude asked about clear glass filters, not UV. They're essentially the same thing.
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When I was photographing some AR15s being shot a casing flew into my lens, I had some generic cheap protective filter on there. If the casing would've smashed my lens is hard to say. But I'm happy I had the filter on in this situation. Otherwise I don't shoot with one.
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iSheep posted:When I was photographing some AR15s being shot a casing flew into my lens, I had some generic cheap protective filter on there. How close were you standing? Casings shouldn't be going that far/fast out of most ARs.
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Ineptitude posted:Why did you go on a tirade about UV filters. The dude asked about clear glass filters, not UV. Please explain the difference on a digital camera. iSheep posted:When I was photographing some AR15s being shot a casing flew into my lens, I had some generic cheap protective filter on there. The difference in strength of the lens versus a filter is huge. But more importantly, how close were you? I've been hit with a lot of casings from M-16s, and none were hard enough to break glass.
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Broken glass (from a broken filter) will easily scratch your lens. Most other things, very unlikely. Even so, scratches on the front element rarely affect the performance anyway. Lenses are very durable. http://nofilmschool.com/2013/07/durable-glass-modern-lenses-cheap-canon-50mm
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Tricerapowerbottom posted:Bought the Hoya HD2 Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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DJExile posted:How close were you standing? Casings shouldn't be going that far/fast out of most ARs. torgeaux posted:The difference in strength of the lens versus a filter is huge. But more importantly, how close were you? I've been hit with a lot of casings from M-16s, and none were hard enough to break glass.  EXIF says 67mm. So pretty close. Since then I've been a bit more careful when going out and photographing shoots like this.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:If you want to cancel/return it I just remembered that I have the B+W in 77mm that is never going to be used again that I could sell to you for cheap. I'll pass, I bought it retail cause I just wanted to get it over with. Thank you though! For all the folks that have had no bad experiences without a filter, my kit 18-55 is dicked up looking in the front, and it wasn't because I took a nail file to it. I know it's not worth anything, and it doesn't affect the shots, and it's not a deal on that lens. But since this is a 24-105mm /4, and I do shoot stuff like guns being used, welding and metalworking, insects that live on dunes or beaches, etc., I hadta.
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iSheep posted:
OK, yeah I'd definitely stand further back.
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$1,399 for a grey market D750 via eBay, hassle free returns and eBay's ridiculously buyer-biased policies: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D750-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-24-3MP-FX-format-Brand-New
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nielsm posted:They're UV filter = clear filter. Nobody makes a clear filter that doesn't block UV. Sometimes they're called "skylight" or something, but they're all the same - just optical-grade clear glass without significant concavity or convexity across either surface; sometimes they're coated with something scratch-resistant or to reduce flare / ghosting. They never have a net positive effect on an image, and occassionally have noticeable degrading effects on image quality. In other words, by putting a UV filter on your lens, the least bad thing you're doing to your pictures is nothing, you cannot help your images with one. Tricerapowerbottom posted:For all the folks that have had no bad experiences without a filter, my kit 18-55 is dicked up looking in the front, and it wasn't because I took a nail file to it. I know it's not worth anything, and it doesn't affect the shots, and it's not a deal on that lens. But since this is a 24-105mm /4, and I do shoot stuff like guns being used, welding and metalworking, insects that live on dunes or beaches, etc., I hadta. Hey, do what you like, if you get peace of mind from it then it's certainly money well spent. Now go shoot more, like I should. This applies to everybody, because I'm feeling arrogant and authoritarian today. 
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To be fair, some Canon lenses apparently need a front filter installed to complete the lens' weather sealing: quote:“EF super-telephoto lenses typically do not require a user-installed filter to maintain weather resistance because they have a gasket at the front element,” says Westfall. “But EF lenses that accept front mounted filters typically do not have gaskets behind the filter mount. Therefore, we strongly recommend using one for maximum weather resistance when desired.” http://www.thephoblographer.com/2013/02/14/how-a-lens-becomes-weather-sealed/#ebWZ21lY1cojBzjY.99
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TheJeffers posted:To be fair, some Canon lenses apparently need a front filter installed to complete the lens' weather sealing:
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I thought the 70-200 f2.8 IS II was one of the canon lenses that doesn't actually require a front filter for weather sealing though?
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astr0man posted:I thought the 70-200 f2.8 IS II was one of the canon lenses that doesn't actually require a front filter for weather sealing though? 
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TheJeffers posted:To be fair, some Canon lenses apparently need a front filter installed to complete the lens' weather sealing: Yes, that's why I asked about whether it was for weather sealing. Even then, most lenses are fine in mist/normal slightly wet conditions. But, if you only feel safe with one, use it. Read up on how they impact ghosting/flare, as you can mitigate that.
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hashtag fingerless gloves
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Does heavy fog count as super bad, need filter weather? Like super poor visibility, 20m driving visibility level? My cameras not waterproof eitherway so I'm not getting one but I saw an excellent opportunity for a picture the other night and didn't take it because I didn't want to break the camera.
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It's a $1000 piece of rugged equipment. It can handle mild humidity.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Does heavy fog count as super bad, need filter weather? Like super poor visibility, 20m driving visibility level? My cameras not waterproof eitherway so I'm not getting one but I saw an excellent opportunity for a picture the other night and didn't take it because I didn't want to break the camera. Fog is fine to shoot in, but you might keep a bag to put it in when you get back in your car if you're running your AC or something to prevent condensation from causing a problem.
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I usually keep my camera out on my desk but it's near a window, is it OK to have it exposed to direct sunlight like that?
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Thoogsby posted:I usually keep my camera out on my desk but it's near a window, is it OK to have it exposed to direct sunlight like that? Direct sunlight is fine, it'd be another thing if you had it sitting on your dashboard in a car sitting outside in blazing heat.
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DJExile posted:Fog is fine to shoot in, but you might keep a bag to put it in when you get back in your car if you're running your AC or something to prevent condensation from causing a problem. This is the worst when you go to take a picture of something unique and limited in time - like a tornado in my case - and the rear element is fogged to hell.
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Haggins posted:
Funny thing is when this happened to my 6D it totally poo poo itself. Its fine now. But still.
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iSheep posted:Funny thing is when this happened to my 6D it totally poo poo itself. hashtagweathersealingisbullshit hashtagwarrantydoesn'tcoverwaterdamage Don't trust any company that tells you their camera is water resistant, but won't pay for water damage
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