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I imagine Beforus was a lot nicer than Alternia, but flawed, and in many ways still alien to human sensibilities.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I always imagined Beforus being like the opening credits from Monkey dust: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm80r_monkey-dust-s02e02-part-1_fun Beforus was a nice if imperfect place full of whiny teens. That's the joke.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:00
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Android Blues posted:I imagine Beforus was a lot nicer than Alternia, but flawed, and in many ways still alien to human sensibilities. 'a lot nicer than Alternia' is setting the bar pretty low really I like to imagine Beforus had flaws but was still a pretty decent place to live in it's own right. Probably even better than Earth in many ways because Feferi was a legit nice person and Earth loving sucks for anyone but the tiny percentage living in the first world.
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Bell_ posted:Feferi seemed interesting to me, but there was only so much spotlight to go around. A Derse dreamer, wearing Prospit colors, I expected that she'd take a role similar to WVs and unite the carapace people though that didn't end up being the case. I thought of her as a privileged, insensitive brutal Disney princess that tries to have empathy for others but isn't usually on the same wavelength. The only time she seemed downright mean was when she trolled Vriska in Alterniabound. (not counting Zak Morrison's Feferi who is AWESOME) She was also pretty passive aggressive towards Jade, but not maliciously.
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Bobulus posted:With the Alternians, as soon as this pressure was removed (Aradiabot explodes and stops fixing things) all their self-destructive, murderous, unexplored tendencies came out and half the team died. Wouldn't that mean that Karkat was / is actually a tremendously lovely leader who only managed to hold that title because Aradia was fixing everything he did incorrectly? 
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Jul 29, 2015 04:21
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Nah. If anything she prevented timelines where he didn't lead the others. Even if that is true though, you can't just call your accomplishments invalid because there is another timeline where they didn't happen.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:43
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Prison Warden posted:Question: you take a broom, you replace the handle, and then later you replace the brush. And you do that, over and over again. Is it still the same broom? Answer: no, of course it isn’t, but you can still sweep the floor. I was hoping someone in the comic would make that Ship of Theseus issue an explicit sticking point, rather than the sort of vague discomfort that Karkat and Dave have shown. I can't remember if this Jade knows that another John has arrived from a retconned timeline to take the dead John's place yet, it might be interesting if in contrast to how quickly everyone else accepted him as "basically John" she rejected him as "not her John". She did have some issues in the pre-retcon timeline with Dave and Davesprite, as well as herself and Jadesprite. Really though I'm still just casting about for something interesting for Jade to do. I'm sure Hussie will think of something, but it'd be sort of dull if she finally gets a chance to wake up and reunite with the others again and happily accepts everything about them.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:02
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Justin Roiland totally nailed it for all time in my opinion. It's all hosed up, let's just go watch TV. Prison Warden posted:Question: you take a broom, you replace the handle, and then later you replace the brush. And you do that, over and over again. Is it still the same broom? Answer: no, of course it isn’t, but you can still sweep the floor. Alternatively: yes, it is the same broom. It's your broom, and that's what matters.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:07
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For what it's worth, the dream bubbles confuse the matter since in those examples the replaced components don't stick around, fully assembled, in the Dream Broom-Closet. It's more like buying a new broom of the same type, throwing your old broom away and saying you now have the same broom as before - functionally yes, literally no. To me it adds more stakes to the dream bubbles and Lord English destroying them because I would rather not see the "discarded" versions of characters (especially the versions we were following for a while and who developed into appreciably distinct people from the other versions) erased. It's part of why this last update hit so hard, pre-retcon Terezi and (Vriska) reuniting isn't pointless just because it isn't current-model Vriska and Terezi doing it, even if they are both discarded brooms.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:16
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Dolash posted:For what it's worth, the dream bubbles confuse the matter since in those examples the replaced components don't stick around, fully assembled, in the Dream Broom-Closet. It's more like buying a new broom of the same type, throwing your old broom away and saying you now have the same broom as before - functionally yes, literally no. To me it adds more stakes to the dream bubbles and Lord English destroying them because I would rather not see the "discarded" versions of characters (especially the versions we were following for a while and who developed into appreciably distinct people from the other versions) erased. It's part of why this last update hit so hard, pre-retcon Terezi and (Vriska) reuniting isn't pointless just because it isn't current-model Vriska and Terezi doing it, even if they are both discarded brooms. I hope the remaining ghosts find a way to preserve themselves, because it's looking more and more like Lord English completely shattering the Furthest Ring is going happen in the endgame. I'm curious what lays beyond the cracks but finding out would kind of suck for the ghosts!
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Looks like the Hiveswap website got updated (though not sure of when exactly). It appears to feature a new layout, a slightly more in-depth faq, and a couple of new screenshots, including what I assume is the troll character's hive.  and this tidbit from the faq: Hiveswap.com posted:Will Hiveswap have [insert my favorite Homestuck character here] in it?
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Jul 29, 2015 15:53
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In Hiveswap you will find and raise a grub that turns out to be.... Galaga
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Jul 29, 2015 16:05
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You immediately turn him into grubsauce. Also I really really hope grubsauce isn't actually dead baby trolls ground up into sauce. Because otherwise holy poo poo why
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Jul 29, 2015 16:08
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One thing that grubs are surely used for is paint, as Nepeta points out in her part of the walkaround in [S] Seek the Highblood.
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Jul 29, 2015 16:11
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subpar anachronism posted:Looks like the Hiveswap website got updated (though not sure of when exactly). It appears to feature a new layout, a slightly more in-depth faq, and a couple of new screenshots, including what I assume is the troll character's hive. Hiveswap is set in like the 90s isn't it? So any of the Guardians on Earth could show up aside Nanna. I dont think we've any idea how far back in the Troll universe it was.
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Jul 29, 2015 16:13
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Burkion posted:You immediately turn him into grubsauce. baby trolls are wigglers grubs are just gross generic bugs i hope
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Jul 29, 2015 16:41
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paranoid randroid posted:baby trolls are wigglers No, wigglers are trolls who have lususes and are out in the world. Grubs are newly-hatched trolls.
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Jul 29, 2015 16:49
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STOP EATIN' BABIES YOU FUCKIN' SAVAGES
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Jul 29, 2015 16:50
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Stop being culturally insensitive.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:00
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Burkion posted:You immediately turn him into grubsauce. well barbecue sauce is made out of barbecues so anything's possible
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paranoid randroid posted:STOP EATIN' BABIES YOU FUCKIN' SAVAGES Don't kinkshame
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Jul 29, 2015 17:20
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oddium posted:well barbecue sauce is made out of barbecues so anything's possible However, meatloaf is (usually) made of meat; cf. grubloaf.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:30
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There are other insectoid species (see also: the program grubs used by FLARPers) on Alternia, so it's a toss up as to whether grubsauce refers to pulped troll grubs or pulped anything else grubs. Maybe it's both, and the two are mixed together indiscriminately, in a slurry of some description!
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Jul 29, 2015 17:52
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I was assuming grubsauce was sauce FOR grubs. Like how baby food isn't made out of babies.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:54
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If the idea of grubloaf makes you sick to your stomach on an instinctual level then you haven't tried mine.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:02
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They always have mayo as an alternative, which dave has clarified is like 'grubsauce without the grubs'
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I know the theme of the latest flash was forgiveness, and the relationship of pre-retcon Vriska and Terezi is important both in itself and for providing insight for post-retcon Terezi, but I'm a little disappointed Karkat didn't show. I hope pre-retcon Terezi and Vriska weren't just Fondly Regarding Annihilation and we'll revisit them since Terezi and Karkat in the post-retcon timeline don't appear to have nearly as close a relationship as they did before and there hasn't been closure on that relationship the same way we just had for Terezi and Vriska. I suppose since Karkat's asleep he could always meet pre-retcon Karkat himself. Might also provide some closure on Karkat's constant self-hatred and looping conversations with his past and future selves to hash things out with an appreciably distinct version of himself. Edit: Whoops, fixed a bit. Dolash fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Dolash posted:I know the theme of the latest flash was forgiveness, and the relationship of pre-retcon Vriska and Terezi is important both in itself and for providing insight for post-retcon Terezi, but I'm a little disappointed Karkat didn't show. I hope pre-retcon Terezi and Vriska weren't just Fondly Regarding Annihilation and we'll revisit them since Terezi and Karkat in the post-retcon timeline don't appear to have nearly as close a relationship as they did before and there hasn't been closure on that relationship the same way we just had for Terezi and Karkat. It'll just be all the bazillion different Karkats getting together and finding common ground... in hating each other. KarCon 2015.
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Game Over Karkat tries to wake up in the dream bubbles, but he is still surrounded by all this memory lava and cannot escape it until he masteries his insecurities.
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It only now occurred to me that the Terezi and Vriska meeting and reconciling are the versions of them that completely gave up their identities, and got burned by it. I don't know if that's particularly meaningful, but it sure is a thing.
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Ariong posted:If the idea of grubloaf makes you sick to your stomach on an instinctual level then you haven't tried mine. Which *will* make us sick to our stomach? Anyway, my grubloaf has a home-made grubbecue sauce as a glaze and is remarkable. Tenebrais posted:It only now occurred to me that the Terezi and Vriska meeting and reconciling are the versions of them that completely gave up their identities, and got burned by it.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:57
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Which *will* make us sick to our stomach?
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Tenebrais posted:It only now occurred to me that the Terezi and Vriska meeting and reconciling are the versions of them that completely gave up their identities, and got burned by it. i think its more like, theyve both lost so much that theyre completely stripped of all the artifice that their living versions still have its really sweet and brings a tear to my sneering, jaded eye
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I don't see how you describe GO!Terezi having given up her identity -- she made more effective use of her Seer powers than ever before. She got Aranea to cure her blindness and got down with the clown. She completely gave up on being a seer, on playing her mind games, on trying to be The Law - everything that made her Terezi, in search of a way to feel less bad about herself.
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Android Blues posted:There are other insectoid species (see also: the program grubs used by FLARPers) on Alternia, so it's a toss up as to whether grubsauce refers to pulped troll grubs or pulped anything else grubs. Maybe it's both, and the two are mixed together indiscriminately, in a slurry of some description! I think if it was ground up wigglers Karkat wouldn't have been all "please let that be grub sauce" when his bff was bleeding out on the floor
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Renaissance Robot posted:I think if it was ground up wigglers Karkat wouldn't have been all "please let that be grub sauce" when his bff was bleeding out on the floor as opposed to your friend's actual blood?
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Jul 29, 2015 19:48
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Okay, so, there a theory floating around that the cracks aren't glowing: There's something behind them that's producing colors and light. Lord English hasn't been trying to kill his sister, he's been trying to break through the void like an egg. This is from a few pages ago, but are you saying Caliborn's weapon gave him the power to revolutionize the world?
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Mazerunner posted:as opposed to your friend's actual blood? Yeah I mean like "wow I hope that's somebody else's insides and not your blood" does not seem like a Karkat thing to say, he's very squeamish and not a very good troll at all.
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Well okay then, I guess it's more like mayonnaise than I thought and the deal is we just don't think about what's in it
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