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Stanfield posted:This is me as well, except I switched to SMN. It's weird how much this is getting me down too. I like most of HW but everything feels kind of tainted by Bard just not being fun anymore. A lot of it feels just like complexity for complexities sake. Monk and summoner are the two dps where I can say they looked at what the class had wrong, and fixed it. Bard very clearly got changed from one thing to another, and I feel blm did too. Dragoon is in the middle. I guess it's an evolution of the job, or just trying out new things but keeping them in the same context. It works for me at 58, where the biggest issue I have with it is the random finisher. There is also their refusal to ever obsolete a button, and it can leave classes feeling bloated as hell. (My ninjas hotbar in particular is in a very sad state.)
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vanbags posted:I doubt that. As long as you're following the group and sticking to objectives it's really hard to be the weak link in a 24 person team. Yeah, simply being around makes you a presence. Even if you think you're not doing that great, you're one of 16+ bodies at the node, which makes it a lot easier to scare people off and/or secure. If you really don't feel like you're contributing, level a healer, slap on some Vitality right-side gear, and just heal the poo poo out of people for as long as your mana holds. One or two competent alliance healers can completely change the tide of a match by letting you hold onto a node in the face of superior numbers.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:31
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Healing is critical in Seal Rock. Since your company loses a significant chunk of intel if someone's KOed, people are very reluctant to wade into a losing fight, and keeping up heals on someone who's being focused is often enough to make people reconsider attacking. Even just maintaining Medica II/Succor/Aspected Helios on your party is usually enough of an edge to keep a defense going or push up to a node long enough to disable it.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:38
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The main thing keeping me from trying PvP is that I already have ~36 actions on my Frankenstein's monster SCH cross hotbar setup, I don't know where I would even PUT all the other ones 
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Jul 29, 2015 04:41
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The Chairman posted:Healing is critical in Seal Rock. Since your company loses a significant chunk of intel if someone's KOed, people are very reluctant to wade into a losing fight, and keeping up heals on someone who's being focused is often enough to make people reconsider attacking. Even just maintaining Medica II/Succor/Aspected Helios on your party is usually enough of an edge to keep a defense going or push up to a node long enough to disable it. The downside is that healing is also mega, mega boring in PVP. I know why they removed Cleric Stance, but part of the reason I like playing a healer in this game is working to balance between DPS and healing, and that simply ain't present in PVP.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:00
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Vermain posted:The downside is that healing is also mega, mega boring in PVP. I know why they removed Cleric Stance, but part of the reason I like playing a healer in this game is working to balance between DPS and healing, and that simply ain't present in PVP. Now that I can't do damage, I end up debuffing people instead -- keeping as many people slept at once as I can, spamming Blizzard II to keep people from capping things, pushing people off cliffs or away from other healers.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:03
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Vermain posted:The downside is that healing is also mega, mega boring in PVP. I know why they removed Cleric Stance, but part of the reason I like playing a healer in this game is working to balance between DPS and healing, and that simply ain't present in PVP. I did a 24-person Slaughter the other day as a SCH and still got more DPS than all but one on my team. We won, too (Flames). Draw from that what you will.
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The Chairman posted:Now that I can't do damage, I end up debuffing people instead -- keeping as many people slept at once as I can, spamming Blizzard II to keep people from capping things, pushing people off cliffs or away from other healers. It's probably better on White Mage. Scholar can... Malady? I guess? kirbysuperstar posted:I did a 24-person Slaughter the other day as a SCH and still got more DPS than all but one on my team. We won, too (Flames). Draw from that what you will. The Commander gear's actually pretty decent for jacking up your Intelligence without sacrificing too much Mind, with the downside that you have to win a gazillion games to actually get it. (Out of 15 games today, I won... two. :I) Vermain fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Jul 29, 2015 05:05
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Eej posted:Look at this guy who has never used Nymeia's Wheel or Heart of the Crafter. What does Nymeia's Wheel do, exactly? It's tooltip isn't specific about how whistle stacks affect its durability restore.
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Vermain posted:It's probably better on White Mage. Scholar can... Malady? I guess? If you have Scholar, you might as well just go Summoner
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Mo0 posted:What does Nymeia's Wheel do, exactly? It's tooltip isn't specific about how whistle stacks affect its durability restore. 9-11: 10 Dura 4-8: 20 Dura 1-3: 30 Dura
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Jul 29, 2015 05:27
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Vermain posted:It's probably better on White Mage. Scholar can... Malady? I guess? Scholar has some pretty absurd throughput, especially with Dissipation. With Vitality gear, you're almost impossible to kill, and Aetherflow + Mana Draw gives you the mana you need to survive protracted engagements. You also have Aura Blast to knock entire enemy teams off cliffs at the cliffside nodes. Some other SCH tips:
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Jul 29, 2015 05:35
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Managed to keep the party alive when our tank 90k'd during Waukkeon; got all three comms, felt like a badass 
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Jul 29, 2015 05:52
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vanbags posted:So as a tank what ilvl should I shoot for before trying to get into savage Alex groups? Is full 190 a must? I'd say mid 185. Funnily enough I have only bought one vit 190 right side. My earring/other ring/ and bracers are str. I figure as a drk 16.5k hp should be enough for savage a1. And having that str will help with the dps. I am 190 left except for my chest.
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Jul 29, 2015 06:29
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On BLM chat, I've more or less made my peace with the new mechanics because I enjoy SMN way less. However, it's really jarring to have the job change so drastically with the expansion. I guess it doesn't matter as much if you play 1-60 fresh whereas many of us have been at 50 for a long time.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:00
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I don't even think the change was that drastic. You're just even more of a turret now, I guess? I dunno.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:09
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm having an absolute blast with dragoon past 50. Even though at a fist glance all that sends to be incredibly different is that you now have a fourth combo chain skill, playing dragoon now feels very fast paced and I love the feeling of maximizing your DPS.
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pandaK posted:I don't know about you guys, but I'm having an absolute blast with dragoon past 50. Even though at a fist glance all that sends to be incredibly different is that you now have a fourth combo chain skill, playing dragoon now feels very fast paced and I love the feeling of maximizing your DPS. Yes, I just got my dragoon to 58 the other day and it's really fun and is quickly becoming one of my favorite classes. I'm really looking forward to level 60.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:04
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I want the title from killing a bunch of A rank hunts. Is there like a hunt linkshell or something that isn't full of idiots?
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pandaK posted:I don't know about you guys, but I'm having an absolute blast with dragoon past 50. Even though at a fist glance all that sends to be incredibly different is that you now have a fourth combo chain skill, playing dragoon now feels very fast paced and I love the feeling of maximizing your DPS. pandaK posted:I don't know about you guys, but I'm having an absolute blast with dragoon past 50. Even though at a fist glance all that sends to be incredibly different is that you now have a fourth combo chain skill, playing dragoon now feels very fast paced and I love the feeling of maximizing your DPS. When I get to the part of my rotation that lets me fire off a geirskogul and then go straight into a B4B/ life surge combo the reptillian part of my brain just shudders in ecstasy Even better if I can get battle litany to line up with that. Nggh.
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The real secret to PVP is just to roll as a Flame if you really want to win rather than fighting the self-defeating tidal wave that is two GCs full of people that can't comprehend basic zone control.
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Dukka posted:The real secret to PVP is just to roll as a Flame if you really want to win rather than fighting the self-defeating tidal wave that is two GCs full of people that can't comprehend basic zone control. But being on the losing team has the advantage of people getting really mad in alliance chat. Like tonight, I had a guy who was furious at people for not following his strategies because he's in the military and he knows what he's talking about, drat it! (to be fair, everyone should have been listening to him because it was all reasonable and good advice, I just think it's funny that he brought up that he's in the military as if anyone gives a poo poo)
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Etrips posted:How do you switch GCs? Once you max out your GC rank the NPCs mention that you can do so. Then you go tot he other GC hall and switch, first time is free, and it costs gil after that.
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Hunter Noventa posted:Once you max out your GC rank the NPCs mention that you can do so. Then you go tot he other GC hall and switch, first time is free, and it costs gil after that. Is there anything I should pick up before switching GCs?
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Spaceman Future! posted:Geirskogul should have its own button, its a core rotation ability. its "free" potency so long as you dont gently caress up your rotation, if you use it every other BOD refresh it is an off gcd attack that also happens to hit other enemies, dont confuse it with an AOE primary ability. your rotation will end up looking somewhat like: HT, Phb, 1, 2, BOD, 3, WT / F&C, Geirskogul, From this point you have about 10 seconds on BOD to push out 1,2,3, WT / F&C -> HT, Phb -> if you didnt gently caress up you have enough cooldown left on BOD to 1,2,3, finisher, Geirskogul again. This is from a couple pages back but you shouldn't be phlebotomizing right after HT. Disembowel doesn't help the dot damage, but it does boost the initial hit. Plus because of the way BOD timing works, if you do it right after HT there's a spot where you have 5 GCDs instead of 4 between your combo finishers. HT->CT->Ph->FT repeat is your best bet 99.9% of the time right now. Got my Gordion chest yesterday and having a bunch of extra skill speed is fun. With an arrow I can get an extra geirskogul in per BoD and with fey wind on top of that I can get one off almost every combo.
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Etrips posted:Is there anything I should pick up before switching GCs? Chocobo barding, minion, any room decor you want. Might as well blow the seals (though they get 'frozen' so you can come back to them later if you'd like).
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Reading around here and on other sites makes me feel like I'm one of the few that really likes the changes done to Bard. I think it's pretty sweet.
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Touchfuzzy posted:Reading around here and on other sites makes me feel like I'm one of the few that really likes the changes done to Bard. I think it's pretty sweet. It took a while to really click for me but I find it REALLY goddamn fun now. I absolutely love the empyreal arrow animation, too.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Chocobo barding, minion, any room decor you want. Might as well blow the seals (though they get 'frozen' so you can come back to them later if you'd like). If you switch back, do you keep your rank?
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Hmmm yes, that WOULD kill all potatoes Etrips posted:If you switch back, do you keep your rank? Yes. You have to work your way up the ranks in the other GCs too.
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Touchfuzzy posted:Reading around here and on other sites makes me feel like I'm one of the few that really likes the changes done to Bard. I think it's pretty sweet. I've learned to play it finally but I still don't enjoy it. I maintain my "if I wanted to be a BLM I would have been a loving BLM stance."
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Arrgytehpirate posted:I've learned to play it finally but I still don't enjoy it. I maintain my "if I wanted to be a BLM I would have been a loving BLM stance." If by that, you mean "if I wanted cast times attached to my skills, I would be a loving BLM" then I don't get it because you can turn Minuet off?
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Dukka posted:The real secret to PVP is just to roll as a Flame if you really want to win rather than fighting the self-defeating tidal wave that is two GCs full of people that can't comprehend basic zone control. The only times I've seen Flames win is if they get absurdly lucky on tomelith spawns or Twin Adder just decides that it's a great day to feed them kills. Although they have been improving lately. Flames completely shut down Adders in a couple of matches I did yesterday, although Maelstrom still won the match overall. One match had Adders come out with a double digit score. But for the most part I've never been on Maelstrom teams that feed quite as hard as the other two do.
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Is there a 'best' GC for pvp on excal? I'm twin adders and we win frontlines maybe one out of five times.
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Goon Static for raiding Savage is looking for an AST or WHM check out OP here: http://forums.ffgoons.com/showthread.php?tid=27576
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POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:Is there a 'best' GC for pvp on excal? I'm twin adders and we win frontlines maybe one out of five times.
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Touchfuzzy posted:If by that, you mean "if I wanted cast times attached to my skills, I would be a loving BLM" then I don't get it because you can turn Minuet off? Only if you want to be excruciatingly bad.
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