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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:If it doesn't increase oil usage, what's the point? Easier and faster to get their sludge to processing/shipping facilities than by train.
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Nonsense posted:Hillary's planned parenthood statements are pretty poo poo. This. The only way it could have been worse is if she just fell in line with Fox News.
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ElrondHubbard posted:This. Yeah, it's pretty lovely for sure. The willingness of the rest of the media to go along with the ACORNing as well... I don't have high hopes for PP's survival.
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Harrow posted:For the first time I'm starting to get legitimately worried that we'll have a full-on Republican government after the 2016 elections. Hillary would destroy any of the Republican nominees purely because their campaigns are run by jokes.
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Mirthless posted:Yeah, it's pretty lovely for sure. The willingness of the rest of the media to go along with the ACORNing as well... I don't have high hopes for PP's survival. Yep it's religion and the media's fault that people find someone discussing crushing/selling fetal parts while casually eating an arugula salad to be distasteful.
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Nonsense posted:Hillary's planned parenthood statements are pretty poo poo. For reference, here's what she said: quote:Calling them “disturbing,” Hillary Clinton said undercover videos showing Planned Parenthood officials discussing the sale of aborted fetal tissue raise questions about the process nationwide. And yeah, I agree that her statements here are pretty weak.
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That's a great question, and I'm glad you asked. Now let me tell you about America Works.
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Nietzschean posted:That's a great question, and I'm glad you asked. Now let me tell you about America Works.
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Nonsense posted:Hillary's planned parenthood statements are pretty poo poo. Hillary Clinton, fierce advocate for women's rights.* *Unless there is a triangulation opportunity, then gently caress 'em But seriously with the all the evidence that these videos were selectively edited her statement is about as tone-deaf, weak-tea, and focus-group-focused as they can be. Does she actually have any opinions of her own that aren't the equivalent of "let me get back to you on that, here have some pablum to tide you over." Feather fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yep it's religion and the media's fault that people find someone discussing crushing/selling fetal parts while casually eating an arugula salad to be distasteful. The video was selectively edited and out of context. No, pimps and hos aren't getting housing assistance and no, babies aren't being sold over brunch.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yep it's religion and the media's fault that people find someone discussing crushing/selling fetal parts while casually eating an arugula salad to be distasteful. If you think this is about "distasteful" you should start paying attention. This is 100% about GOP hacks latching on to something that might get them the chance to do what they've been trying to do for the last 5 years. We killed a million people in Iraq and no one on the Right gives a single poo poo about that. GOP voters don't care about babies, they care about women being punished for having sex.
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Gallows Humor and the Abortionist's Dead Baby Joke
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"It's like she's just Skyping it in." *nods approvingly in parent's basement apartment, reaches for customized vape chamber*
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Lord of Pie posted:Hillary's not even trying, which makes sense because she's courting millennials who would be freaked out by the sight of someone working. 
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Hahahaha Jesus Christ Clinton. That was a slam dunk opportunity for you and you didn't even bother to catch the ball. If she continues to give milquetoast non-answers like this to everything, we're doomed.
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Chokes McGee posted:Hahahaha Jesus Christ Clinton. That was a slam dunk opportunity for you and you didn't even bother to catch the ball.  I seem to recall her fizzling in 2008 as well. I'm starting to think she just doesn't have the instinct for this.
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Unzip and Attack posted:GOP voters don't care about babies, they care about women being punished for having sex. This is kind of an amazing accusation from a party whose candidate dismissed, belittled, and undermined a young woman for giving her boss a beej.
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Boomstick Quaid posted:Pro-life is actually Birth-At-Any-Cost Not at all. They refuse to pay for any of it.
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Mullah Omar, one-eyed leader of the Taliban, has apparently been dead for 2 years. So that makes two big bad guy terrorists who have died under Obama's watch (the US didn't have anything to do with his death directly, though). How will the GOP spin this to attack Hillary??? Maybe Omar had a premonition that Trump was going to run the United States in 2017 and had a heart attack at the thought.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:It is kind of amazing how people having managed to take the most left wing and progressive candidate to run for President with any actual support in decades, who is running against an architect of the New Democrats third wayism, and make it so that supporting him is the bigoted, anti-minority and anti-women vote.
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DaveWoo posted:For reference, here's what she said: Wow, what weaksauce bullshit. Seriously, Hillary? Making your bones on being the first woman President yet not having the stones to defend Planned Parenthood? How is it not a no-brainer to defend Planned Parenthood to the constituency you're trying to win? And Bernie loving knocked it out of the park.
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Alter Ego posted:Wow, what weaksauce bullshit. Seriously, Hillary? Making your bones on being the first woman President yet not having the stones to defend Planned Parenthood? Now you finally get the milquetoast that is Hillary. "Elect me your leader, I will lead you.....but you have to tell me what to do or think, I think." So then comes the obvious question of, what is Hillary's moral compass? (if she has any) I think 2016 is gonna be a year of ideologies and standing for them. I mean, poo poo, look at how Trump is polling.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:This is kind of an amazing accusation from a party whose candidate dismissed, belittled, and undermined a young woman for giving her boss a beej.
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Venom Snake posted:Hillary would destroy any of the Republican nominees purely because their campaigns are run by jokes. I wish I could share your optimism, but I worry that if she shows up to debates in the general without any actual positions to fight for, she's going to look like a weak non-candidate next to the comparatively-firebrand Republican candidate.
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JT Jag posted:I'm not going to hold Hillary being pissed at the woman who her husband cheated with against her. Of course you're not. Because feminism and social justice are political tools, not objective ideologies. Or perhaps the slut simply deserved what she got.
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Edit: ^^^^ Your custom title is downright prescient. It's almost as if this is the primaries where Clinton's a lock (she is) and the Republicans are descending into a record-breaking farce, and Hillary's giving non-answers and being evasive on anything that could possibly catch the media's attention because the longer they stare wide-eyed at Trump the more damage the Republican party takes? Or maybe the woman who's locked up more party endorsements than any non-incumbent by this point is Bad At Politics. Dolash fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Of course you're not. Because feminism and social justice are political tools, not objective ideologies.
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Harrow posted:I wish I could share your optimism, but I worry that if she shows up to debates in the general without any actual positions to fight for, she's going to look like a weak non-candidate next to the comparatively-firebrand Republican candidate. Yeah, didn't work for Gore, didn't work for Kerry. Didn't work for Hillary in 08. Don't really understand what she is doing here. I'm feeling better about Bernie's chances in the primary after this week. We'll see what happens after the big event tonight.
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I'm curious. While I think Hillary's statement on Planned Parenthood was hilariously half-assed, how does she benefit from vocally taking stances on... anything, right now? She's way out in front, the other candidates need to catch up to her. Meanwhile, the media is focused on the Republican slideshow.
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JT Jag posted:I'm curious. While I think Hillary's statement on Planned Parenthood was hilariously half-assed, how does she benefit from vocally taking stances on... anything, right now? She's way out in front, the other candidates need to catch up to her. Meanwhile, the media is focused on the Republican slideshow. 
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And her favorables are under water and going the wrong direction. So yes, she technically doesn't need to address any substantive point on anything and still win the primary. She'll then get destroyed by someone who isn't a triangulating robot in the general.
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Yes, and? She can start caring about accusations of flip flopping when anyone in the primary is within 20 points of her. TheDisreputableDog posted:And her favorables are under water and going the wrong direction. JT Jag fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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JT Jag posted:Yes, and? She should start caring, because it will matter in the general. Yes, it's early, but this is a pattern with her, and the earlier she starts addressing these things--staking out real positions, standing for them, and addressing the positions she's changed on--the earlier she strengthens her (very likely) general election run.
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JT Jag posted:Yes, and? I don't think anyone gives a gently caress about the primary. It's the August-October attack ad season that is scary. Can you imagine the quick cuts of her from the early 90s onward taking multiple positions on issues, or deflecting, or non-answers?
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