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BoyBlunder posted:I would wait to see camera results in low-light. There were quite a few from that link I posted.
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Man this Lollipop update for my AT&T 2013 Moto X is just complete poo poo. Let me list the ways:
I mean Lollipop itself is good, but whatever is wrong with this update is just horrible and it makes me want to complain to AT&T, but I'm guessing AT&T won't do anything for me.
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Tunga posted:Crosspost from one of the bike threads in case someone here has an idea: Sorry if this has been answered or resolved already since I'm behind in my forum reading, but I'd like to recommend a mount from Velocity Clip. I have one (from eBay) for my Note 3 on my road bike and love it. I found the Amazon.uk product line: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/s/?ie=UTF8&k=Velocity+Clip
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Thermopyle posted:Man this Lollipop update for my AT&T 2013 Moto X is just complete poo poo. Let me list the ways: Same thing with my developer edition. It's terrible.
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Jul 29, 2015 17:55
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I guess its a blessing Verizon is holding it back
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Jul 29, 2015 18:26
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I don't use Qi at all, but I am curious if there are any #s that show usage and adoption rates. I would assume Motorola doesn't have it because not that many people use it, but #s would prove or disprove my hypothesis. I know people in this thread use it, but I am genuinely curious how many non tech savvy people actually use it or care.
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Captain Yossarian posted:I don't use Qi at all, but I am curious if there are any #s that show usage and adoption rates. I would assume Motorola doesn't have it because not that many people use it, but #s would prove or disprove my hypothesis. I know people in this thread use it, but I am genuinely curious how many non tech savvy people actually use it or care. It's probably much more costly to integrate Qi with the replaceable backs. Suddenly it's not just a 10c item you swap out.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:34
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I find quick charging much more useful than wireless charging. But I had to send 2 flagship phones - an HTC M7 and a Galaxy S3 - to the graveyard because their micro USB ports went bad and I couldn't charge them anymore. So from now on I'll be buying value phones like the Moto G or flagships with wireless charging.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:49
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Qualcomm just showed off an update to their wireless charging standard that allows metal backs, doesn't care about alignment, and does quick charge. I have a feeling they are going to withhold quick charge from competing standards to try to push their own.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:59
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bull3964 posted:There were quite a few from that link I posted. Yeah and they weren't very good. The Note 4 had some amazing low light shots when it first came out, people are saying this camera's comparable to that? I'm not seeing it
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Jul 29, 2015 19:32
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My biggest issue with Motorola cameras are the shutter speed. My turbo takes fantastic photos in good lighting and of still shots. If you're trying to take a picture in low lighting or of anything that's moving even slightly, forget about it.
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FistEnergy posted:I find quick charging much more useful than wireless charging. But I had to send 2 flagship phones - an HTC M7 and a Galaxy S3 - to the graveyard because their micro USB ports went bad and I couldn't charge them anymore. So from now on I'll be buying value phones like the Moto G or flagships with wireless charging. You probably find quick charge to be more useful because you don't have a Tylt on your desk at work, on the nightstand, in the car, and on the coffee table where it turns out no matter where your phone is, it's being charged. I get panicky when my phone gets run down low (by "low" I mean below 93% when the top part of the battery disappears  ).
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Lol, that's insane. You guys know the world doesn't end when your phone battery is empty right?
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People should be more like me. I have never run a phone to dangerously low battery levels in a situation where wireless charging would have helped. Which means I'm not making any compromises if I get a new X!
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If you read about battery longevity you should hardly ever charge it 100% or run it to 0% anyway. Especially if you can't replace the battery. I haven't read much but I can't wait for newer semi-non disposable batteries. (Sulfur was it?) Quick or turbo charge is crazy fast anyway, at least to get it to that sweet spot where you aren't nuking your battery cells. Wireless nightstand charging seems like a lazy sloppy habit to me. My buddy keeps his at 100% constantly but a replacement battery is under $9 My HTC one m8 battery practically unreplacable. Edit: Also you people that keep batteries/spares in hot environments and pockets are destroying them too. May as well put them in a min temp oven. Just food for thought, I will admit it is more convinient your way(s) though. Quaint Quail Quilt fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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Thermopyle posted:Man this Lollipop update for my AT&T 2013 Moto X is just complete poo poo. Let me list the ways: I guess this stuff is why AT&T halted the OTA last week.
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galahan posted:If you read about battery longevity you should hardly ever charge it 100% or run it to 0% anyway. This doesn't really apply to phones. 100% and 0% as your phone reports it are not absolutes, they're the safe upper and lower charge limits of the battery.
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galahan posted:If you read about battery longevity you should hardly ever charge it 100% or run it to 0% anyway. Nope.
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galahan posted:
Haha, what??
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If anyone is getting a fancy new Moto G and wants a fancy new moto accessory, I got a $25 dollar off coupon. Anyone want it? SA-Mart thread is here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3733752&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post448322329
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baka kaba posted:Yeah and they weren't very good. It's not just "people" who are saying that. It's independent camera review sites. I, personally, think those low light shots look quite good. No, they aren't great if at 100% crop, but even the Note 4 doesn't really look great in low light at 100% (no compact sensor does.) For 3x5 prints or viewing on a digital picture frame, they look great. http://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2014/10/13/f7c45c1f-7567-4824-a1a1-176e29a6dd28/4f5bf443b0ce0a5bb3f39716bc5aae15/nightsamsungnote4.jpg
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the nicker posted:This doesn't really apply to phones. 100% and 0% as your phone reports it are not absolutes, they're the safe upper and lower charge limits of the battery. He's half right at least. Depth of discharge vs. number of duty cycles is logarithmic for lithium cells. So someone that charges their when it drops to 90% will get a lot more than 10 times the charge cycles than someone who lets it go to 0% every time. So if you're anal and want the longest battery life possible just charge it whenever it's a bit low. Or just charge it overnight like normal people do
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Your writing format is very annoying. You should stop writing like this since it makes each sentence a separate paragraph. Ideas become disconnected and sentences seem like items in a list this way.
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Jul 29, 2015 21:54
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beedeebee posted:Lol, that's insane. You guys know the world doesn't end when your phone battery is empty right? I don't care about the battery level, I care about being able to see the notification light at a glance which the Tylt Vu does perfectly. The fact that it takes zero effort and the phone is never less than 100% charged is just gravy as the phone would be sitting there doing nothing regardless.
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galahan posted:Wireless nightstand charging seems like a lazy sloppy habit to me. You're fuckin weird.
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bull3964 posted:It's not just "people" who are saying that. It's independent camera review sites. I, personally, think those low light shots look quite good. No, they aren't great if at 100% crop, but even the Note 4 doesn't really look great in low light at 100% (no compact sensor does.) For 3x5 prints or viewing on a digital picture frame, they look great. Well anything looks good if you zoom out enough. The shots were a comparison with the iPhone camera of the time I think, and they were genuinely impressive - actual sharp detail when you zoom in on a cityscape at dusk, good exposure without motion blur, that kind of thing. Within reason obviously, there's only so much you can expect, but they genuinely looked like a step forward to me. The low-light example pics for the moto don't look like anything special at all to me, and that's the kind of lighting situation I'm more interested in. Maybe they weren't doing it justice, but some smeared people in a gallery and a muddy picture of a bike aren't exactly showcase material. Looks more like aggressive noise removal than anything e- to be fair, looking at the dpreview site those images were taken from, those are the worst shots testing really high ISOs (especially the bike) and they have some comparisons with a special Night Mode further down, and that looks way better. They got some great results in tricky conditions, so maybe it's actually real good after all! http://m.connect.dpreview.com/post/6329651553/motorola-moto-x-style-preview-samples baka kaba fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:You're fuckin weird. I do USB cable charging on my night stand and wireless charging at work
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First detailed Moto G review I've found. 1 week review time. Camera is noticeably improved, screen is good, battery life gets a large boost, and as a hidden bonus the storage speed is much faster. http://laptopmedia.com/smartphone-review/motorola-moto-g-3rd-gen-2015-review-the-new-flagship-in-the-mid-range/ Me likey.
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baka kaba posted:
Yeah, it's the Night Mode pictures that I though were really pretty decent for a phone camera. It does lower the MP count, but that's fine. Yeah, the bike shot was to test the thing at the limit of ISO and it's really not that bad in that situation. You have to keep in mind that we're talking a 21mp sensor here. You are hardly EVER going to use these pictures at anything close to 100%. That also means that the pictures are going to look worse at 100% than a lower MP camera. At normal web sizes, even the high ISO images look pretty nice. If someone posted that bike picture on their facebook feed, I wouldn't blink an eye about it and would think it looks pretty decent. The info we don't have about the camera is how good it is about taking fast shots of things in motion. F2.0 aperture is encouraging as that should allow it to use fast shutter speeds in lower light situations. But other cameras have had fast lenses before and not been able to snap a clean shot in motion so we'll have to see. The hardware is there and it looks as though Moto has good post processing down, the real question now is how quick and capable is the software driving the camera to select the best mode for the situation.
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CLAM DOWN posted:You're fuckin weird. True enough, just respouting articles I read in this very thread though. I ought to link sources, but effort. I'm a masochist when it comes to this stuff and baby just bought his first smartphone last September, I'm a try hard I guess. It probably won't even matter because at the rate I use my phone for high intensity tasks it won't even hold half the charge it did from the factory less than a year from now. If your phone is disposable by all means beat the piss out of it, I know I do, but I am trying to keep the cells healthy as long as possible. Also current phones are disposable anyway. I'm just trying to spread information from this very thread about battery health, or look it up on lifehacker or something if you care. I'd guesstimate my phone still holds 90% or more of its factory specs, my girlfriend's Apple stuff who does things your way can't hold a candle to it's health. Edit: I have fully nightstand charged it out of desperation, but to support your arguement, the fully charged LED is enough to wake me up when it's done. Different strokes different folks. TLDR; At least I'm enough of a realist to get that I'm on the Sperg side of this, but the information is out there (head in the Sander's) that don't care as much. Quaint Quail Quilt fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jul 29, 2015 |
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hooah posted:Your writing format is very annoying. You are not the first on here to tell me that, honestly how many paragraphs should it have been? Please forgive me I was quickly phone posting and I walked off my job today. I am aware of the habit and constructive criticism is always appreciated, however telling me I am weird doesn't really shame me into changing. (I know your not that person)
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^^^ That's how professional writers on the internets format things these days. At least it's not a new paragraph for every sentence!bull3964 posted:The info we don't have about the camera is how good it is about taking fast shots of things in motion. F2.0 aperture is encouraging as that should allow it to use fast shutter speeds in lower light situations. But other cameras have had fast lenses before and not been able to snap a clean shot in motion so we'll have to see. The hardware is there and it looks as though Moto has good post processing down, the real question now is how quick and capable is the software driving the camera to select the best mode for the situation. Yeah definitely, at the end of the day I just want people to be able to whip out their phones and take a pic without having to put a light on or whatever, and get a nice image That reminds me, what happened to the new Camera 2 API stuff for Google Camera? It was supposed to bring faster pics and that multi-exposure tone mapping stuff, to the Nexus 6 at least, did anything ever happen with that? Apart from the test app someone else made with the API. I was trying to take some photos of a cat with my N5 recently and the responsiveness is pretty drat bad. That split second delay is a killer
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The fact a Moto camera is even being compared to the Note 4's is a huge step forward.
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baka kaba posted:^^^ That's how professional writers on the internets format things these days. At least it's not a new paragraph for every sentence What if every sentence was a new thought though? (I'll admit most were not) Actually, I might have been scolded on here for the opposite at one point come to think about it! That's what you get for listening to people I guess. Sorry for contributing to derail, but I'm actually curious.
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galahan posted:What if every sentence was a new thought though? (I'll admit most were not) Actually, I might have been scolded on here for the opposite at one point come to think about it! Hell I've been trying to break things up like that recently, I tend to write too much in big blocks so it's a good habit to develop. Get pithy. I guess people get annoyed when there's a new paragraph where you'd expect a new sentence. Like it basically follows on from the previous thought, but you get this hard break instead, and people prepare themselves mentally for some expected change in context. And then there's a bit of rebalancing as you parse it, realise it's directly connected to the previous sentence, and your understanding changes. It's a bit like getting tripped. Up, constantly, if you see. What? I mean
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What's funny is my turbo actually takes really clean quick pictures in burst mode. It's just if you are trying to snap a quick shot of something in motion it will likely be blurry. I took like 30 pictures in burst mode of my nephew blowing out his birthday candles and all but one was sharp as a tack with no blur (incidentally, google made a great auto-awesome out of it.) If you think about it though, that's really the way pros take good motion shots, they burst. It's a challenge to be sure. You need the right combo of shutter speed and ISO and autofocus to get the right shot. Choosing the first two comes down to accurate metering which I'm sure can be difficult to get right given the limitations inherent in a phone camera.
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Oh I don't mean blur (and yeah, burst mode forever), I mean the time between hitting the button and the camera actually taking the shot. There's a lag, even if you prime the shutter and release, and it's really inconsistent too - it can be anything from like 1/3s to a full second. Taking cat pics ends up with lots of pics of the cat looking away, it's a tough gig I'm pretty sure the new software was meant to make the pipeline faster so it responds instantaneously, as well as the faster processing in general, but I haven't heard anything about it since it was announced like a year ago 
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galahan posted:You are not the first on here to tell me that, honestly how many paragraphs should it have been? Please forgive me I was quickly phone posting and I walked off my job today. galahan posted:1. True enough, just respouting articles I read in this very thread though. I ought to link sources, but effort. The reason why you use so many paragraphs is because you aren't finishing a thought and then you come back and repeat it. Paragraphs 1 and 4 are about the same thing. So are paragraphs 2 and 5. The 3rd can stand on its own probably at the end.
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baka kaba posted:^^^ That's how professional writers on the internets format things these days. At least it's not a new paragraph for every sentence! Please share a cat picture.
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