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Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!
K. Rool is a cool and fun boss from cool and fun games. Also DK64 which was kinda alright.

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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
What's wrong with Krystal and Shovel Knight?

Krystal would be the first space animal to have a completely distinct fighting style from the others (not saying Fox/Falco/Wolf are clones; they just all have the same overall feel to them), and we don't currently have a staff/spear fighter, so she'd be unique in that way as well.

Shovel Knight would bring some indie-representation to Smash, and he has a moveset basically complete from his own game that can be brought in. I don't think he's likely to be added; as good and popular as Shovel Knight is, he's still just a niche indie game protagonist, but he's not necessarily bad

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
Krystal is furry garbage who doesn't even deserve a trophy.

The most important reps should be Bomberman and Belmont IMO.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

jivjov posted:

What's wrong with Krystal and Shovel Knight?

Krystal would be the first space animal to have a completely distinct fighting style from the others (not saying Fox/Falco/Wolf are clones; they just all have the same overall feel to them), and we don't currently have a staff/spear fighter, so she'd be unique in that way as well.
Krystal is a terrible furry fanserice character from a terrible game and we do already have a "staff fighter"(palutena), but why is that the way you would judge a moveset anyways

Shovel Knight is cool. He won't get in, but I voted for him.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

Shovel Knight would be a bad pick because he's too new and small; there's still much bigger third-party fish to fry.

Krystal is bad because she's a blue bikini fox.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
loving like, just play the game. there's 50 characters.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Supercar Gautier posted:


Krystal is bad because she's a blue bikini fox.

i had a dream where krystal and i were laying in a patch of field looking up and identifying clouds.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!
Krystal is another Space Animal and we don't need another one of those. Wolf can stay in the dumpster too unless he replaces Falco on the roster somehow. Also, Krystal's from Star Fox Adventures. Adding her would be like adding Adam Malkovich as a new Metroid rep. :barf:

Shovel Knight, however, is awesome and from a great game. There are third parties I'd expect over him (considering he's more contemporary than legacy), but I would buy his DLC day one.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

IronicDongz posted:

Krystal is a terrible furry fanserice character from a terrible game and we do already have a "staff fighter"(palutena), but why is that the way you would judge a moveset anyways

Shovel Knight is cool. He won't get in, but I voted for him.

So crystal is terrible furry fanservice...but Fox, Falco, and Wolf are fine?

I will admit, I forgot all about Palutena. And I'm not judging a moveset solely on weapon of choice, but rather I see opportunities to create something new and different.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Krystal's introductory game is the most unpopular in the series and her later appearances are post the series's descent into mediocrity. It's like if you put in Silver the Hedgehog before Eggman.

edit: someone already beat me with a better analogy.

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

jivjov posted:

So crystal is terrible furry fanservice...but Fox, Falco, and Wolf are fine?

I think you're getting it now!

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
Good Characters:
- Tetris Stick
- Waluigi & Oshawott as a duo
- Homer Simpson
- Lara Croft (PSX design only)
- Advance Wars character
- Waddle Dee
- Mach Rider
- Takamaru

Okay:
- Sceptile because why not

Meh:
- K-Rool

gently caress You:
- Ridley

Aston
Nov 19, 2007

Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay

Supercar Gautier posted:

The key to a good pick is that they should either be next-in-line within their series, or the star of a series not repped yet. Here's the facts:

Good picks for first-party characters:
Dixie or Cranky Kong
Inkling
Impa
Wolf
Squirtle
Marshal (note: not the Chorus Kids)
Ice Climbers if they can get 'em working
Medusa or Hades

Good picks for third-party characters:
Simon Belmont
Black Mage or other iconic FF class/creature
Tails
Chun-Li

Picks who would be good but are already assist trophies or part of someone's move:
Isabelle
Takamaru
Toad

Bad picks the internet is inordinately obsessed with:
Krystal
Geno
Shovel Knight
Shantae
K Rool
Banjo-Kazooie

To be honest I don't really care:
Isaac
Rayman
Wonder Red
Bomberman
Waddle Dee

Sir, this is a Macdonalds Drive Thru

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Aston posted:

Sir, this is a Macdonalds Drive Thru

Can I supersize my Capcom Representation Meal and get Phoenix Wright?

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


Countblanc posted:

loving like, just play the game. there's 50 characters.

but they're not new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh

jivjov posted:

So crystal is terrible furry fanservice...but Fox, Falco, and Wolf are fine?
Yeah? 100%?

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012


lmao

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Countblanc posted:

loving like, just play the game. there's 50 characters.

Yea the fun character guessing phase is over and seeing ppl seriously discuss Krystal and Dixie is giving me a form of nausea I haven't felt since 2007.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
god before I looked that cutscene up again I'd forgotten it had that sax in it

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

The banquet is over, we're all
full, and now Games ppl with extremely weird creaseless melon brains are working themselves into a frenzy over the scraps.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Supercar Gautier posted:

Picks who would be good but are already assist trophies or part of someone's move:
Isabelle
Takamaru
Toad

You loving forgot somebody

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

Supercar Gautier posted:

The key to a good pick is that they should either be next-in-line within their series, or the star of a series not repped yet. Here's the facts:

Good picks for first-party characters:
Dixie or Cranky Kong
Inkling
Impa
Wolf
Squirtle
Marshal (note: not the Chorus Kids)
Ice Climbers if they can get 'em working
Medusa or Hades

Good picks for third-party characters:
Simon Belmont
Black Mage or other iconic FF class/creature
Tails

stopped reading

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar
They should put Ryu in the game

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh


Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY

Louisgod posted:

They should put Ryu in the game

I too would be very excited for Ryu Hayabusa

Magypsy
Apr 2, 2010

People call me Pine! (Pine!)
Eastern Venus Space Police.
If there's slime, (There's slime!)
Involved in a crime, (Bad crime!)
We'll clean them up on the beat! (The beat!)

So how long until we get a Krystal Mii costume?

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Banjo rocks gently caress yall

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Magypsy posted:

So how long until we get a Krystal Mii costume?

I hope it's just a hat

Raserys
Aug 22, 2011

IT'S YA BOY
I hope there is no further mention of Krystal in this game. She belongs with Issac, that is to say, nowhere.

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
I have a great deal of nostalgia for Golden Sun, bad game be damned




There is a similar amount of nostalgia for Star Fox Assault on its merits as a decent game but I agree that Krystal does not belong in Smash Bros, and is not my friend

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

:yikes:

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

NTT posted:

I have a great deal of nostalgia for Golden Sun, bad game be damned




There is a similar amount of nostalgia for Star Fox Assault on its merits as a decent game but I agree that Krystal does not belong in Smash Bros, and is not my friend

It belongs in... A museum

Complexcalibur
Mar 11, 2007

NUOOOOAAAGH

NTT posted:

I have a great deal of nostalgia for Golden Sun, bad game be damned

This sums up my feelings. Plus, if we ruled out hasbeens from series that everyone realizes they only fooled themselves into liking, we'd have to get rid of Sonic too.

At this point I'm more excited for Youtube uploads and tournament mode. Tournament Mode mostly as a means to an end so I can play matches against randoms on actual non-Omega stages.

Panic Restaurant
Jul 19, 2006

:retrogames: :3: :retrogames:



Pork Pro

Raserys posted:

I hope there is no further mention of Krystal in this game. She belongs with Issac, that is to say, nowhere.

:agreed:

Put in chibi-robo instead

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

jivjov posted:

Krystal would be the first space animal to have a completely distinct fighting style from the others

Just like how Dark Pit was going to use that gun that he has and Toon Link pilots a boat.

Let's be real Krystal would suck and she's only really coveted in Smash because nerds are horny

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
Make SA-X which is a samus clone but with better frame data a good grab and a real upsmash that would be cool

Just Andi Now
Nov 8, 2009


Tonetta posted:

Make SA-X which is a samus clone but with better frame data a good grab and a real upsmash that would be cool

Only if the retroactively reskin current Samus as Fusion Suit Samus.

LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
I should be fair here. maybe jivjov was thinking of krystal from assault instead

Tonetta posted:

Make SA-X which is a samus clone but with better frame data a good grab and a real upsmash that would be cool
final smash the gross frog monster it turns into at the end

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006

~As for dreams, she has enough and more to spare~
wonder red

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LazyMaybe
Aug 18, 2013

oouagh
I would like wonder red but with the death of the ice climbers I just don't see how it's possible

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