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Dilbert As gently caress posted:I think it is from FFX To Zanarkand. It's also the menu music. It's probably the single greatest VGM composition by Nobuo Uematsu arguable of any VGM from its generation. The semi sort of licensed Nobou Uematsu cover band Black Mages did a cover of it. https://youtu.be/tqJn5Lrqb2c
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Blaziken386 posted:I think you guys are all being a little unnecessarily unfair about Lord Justice's posts. I think they're pretty chill. Keep doin' what you're doin', LJ. My thanks. In retrospect, this debate was an overreaction on my part. The subject matter I was attempting to argue against is overall a very minor part of Madoka, and wasn't worth the extended posting on it. The objectification of women is a very sore point for me, and it can cause me to overreact to things that aren't necessarily there. In future I'll attempt to regulate myself better when posting. Mea culpa.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:24
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Regulate your word count tia
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Lord Justice posted:My thanks. Speak English.
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Jul 29, 2015 18:38
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or at least pretend you aren't writing a 100 level term paper last minute like i get that some thoughts and concepts require more effort to properly express, but it comes across super pretentious if you just keep couching simple stuff in larger than necessary terms, when people obviously understood the point in your first wall of text not trying to be anti-intellectual or anything but when you keep saying people are missing your point and then write in an even more obtuse way, the problem might be your own method of expression and if you just keep running with it, it's hard for people to actually assume you're being genuine in your opinion or maybe that's just me v  v.jpg posted:I think you've all been very mean to Lord Justice over the past few days. He just wants Madoka to get the same respect any pure and beautiful work of art deserves this is super cool
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Yasser Arafatwa posted:or at least pretend you aren't writing a 100 level term paper last minute Since this keeps coming up, I'll address it the once here. My prose construction is what it is, it is not an attempt to "seem intelligent", rather it is just what comes naturally to me when constructing my writing. I don't believe it is overly complex or overwrought, and compared to posts such as my longer form analyses, everything I've written lately has been as short, concise and to the point as I can make it. Whether you agree with that or not is up to you, and if it really bothers you that much, functions such as the ignore feature are always present. I also do not wish to degenerate my prose to such a degree, I feel that my language construction would lose too much meaning if I were to do so.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:35
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You're pretentious as poo poo lol
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Shortened without losing the slightest bit of meaning:Lord Justice posted:Since this keeps coming up, I'll say it again. My writing style is what it is, I'm not trying to "seem intelligent", it's just what comes naturally to me while writing. I don't think it's overdone and compared to other posts, such as my long-form analysis, everything I've posted lately has been as short as I can make it. Whether you agree is up to you and if it really bothers you that much you can always use the ignore function. I don't want to reduce my prose that much, I feel I'd lose too much meaning if I did so. A more useful summation: Lord Justice posted:I'm not trying to look smart I'm just incapable of writing concisely and I don't want to fix the problem because I'm somehow convinced that all the extra words give my message more meaning. A concept to explore: Line breaks. If you're gonna write a lot of words then space'em out.
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Brevity's cool and can be the real way to look smart, imo.
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Lord Justice posted:Since this keeps coming up, I'll address it the once here. My prose construction is what it is, it is not an attempt to "seem intelligent", rather it is just what comes naturally to me when constructing my writing. I don't believe it is overly complex or overwrought, and compared to posts such as my longer form analyses, everything I've written lately has been as short, concise and to the point as I can make it. Whether you agree with that or not is up to you, and if it really bothers you that much, functions such as the ignore feature are always present. I also do not wish to degenerate my prose to such a degree, I feel that my language construction would lose too much meaning if I were to do so. Jesus christ
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I took his advice and put him on ignore, I suggest you all do the same.
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The ignore function is for the weak.
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cheetah7071 posted:I took his advice and put him on ignore, I suggest you all do the same. Don't use ignore, don't post about putting people on ignore
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Srice posted:The ignore function is for the weak.
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Lord Justice posted:Since this keeps coming up, I'll address it the once here. My prose construction is what it is, it is not an attempt to "seem intelligent", rather it is just what comes naturally to me when constructing my writing. I don't believe it is overly complex or overwrought, and compared to posts such as my longer form analyses, everything I've written lately has been as short, concise and to the point as I can make it. Whether you agree with that or not is up to you, and if it really bothers you that much, functions such as the ignore feature are always present. I also do not wish to degenerate my prose to such a degree, I feel that my language construction would lose too much meaning if I were to do so.
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Lord Justice posted:Since this keeps coming up, I'll address it the once here. My prose construction is what it is, it is not an attempt to "seem intelligent", rather it is just what comes naturally to me when constructing my writing. I don't believe it is overly complex or overwrought, and compared to posts such as my longer form analyses, everything I've written lately has been as short, concise and to the point as I can make it. Whether you agree with that or not is up to you, and if it really bothers you that much, functions such as the ignore feature are always present. I also do not wish to degenerate my prose to such a degree, I feel that my language construction would lose too much meaning if I were to do so. Jesus could you imagine talking to this guy at a bar? At work? At school? It'd be loving insufferable. Lord Justice: please pay attention
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You're ruining this thread.
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Lock this thread until more madoka exists
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Command Ant posted:You're ruining this thread. The opposite reading is true, because those posts resulted in .jpg's video.
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Namtab posted:Lock this thread until more madoka exists All this kerfuffle has reminded me that I never watched Rebellion and heck, maybe I'll fix that this weekend.
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Personally I think Lord Justice should do his thing and if people don't like reading his posts, which is fair and reasonable, they can ignore them.
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Srice posted:All this kerfuffle has reminded me that I never watched Rebellion and heck, maybe I'll fix that this weekend. Don't bother, it objectified homura by showing her shoulders, thus retroactively ruining the entire franchise.
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Endorph posted:you are a broken human being rude!
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Lord Justice posted:
If that's what comes naturally to you then fix it. It is not doing you any favors. Seriously that's not only *bad* writing, it is also annoying as gently caress and totally fails at communicating your meaning. trucutru fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Srice posted:All this kerfuffle has reminded me that I never watched Rebellion and heck, maybe I'll fix that this weekend. I'll expound, and I'll be positive to use sizable terms so that you'll be sure to apprehend: loving cool movie, watch it
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trucutru posted:I'll expound, and I'll be positive to use sizable terms so that you'll be sure to apprehend: While I was never really into the writing side of Madoka, Shinbo is a really cool director. And since Kizumonogatari isn't coming out until the heat death of the universe, I figure Rebellion will let me see him strut his stuff without the restraints that come with a weekly tv series.
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I like using words too and it can be useful to spend many words clarifying your thoughts when you want to express very specific ideas, but it's just as useful to use concise language to make your ideas easy to follow. If a more thorough explanation is requested then that's fine, otherwise just get to the point.Srice posted:While I was never really into the writing side of Madoka, Shinbo is a really cool director. Gekidan Inu Curry in particular really outdid themselves with Rebellion, and that's saying something considering their work on the TV series and Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei.
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Endorph posted:the mami vs homura fight is insanely good. Yes. I thought the transformation scenes were really good in Rebellion as well. Kill the thread.
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Srice posted:Brevity's cool and can be the real way to look smart, imo. "I have made this letter longer than usual, only because I have not had the time to make it shorter." - Blaise Pascal
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I blame the education system. We always teach these kids to extend their musings in order to cap out on some arbitrary word limit, as if more words makes a piece better. I'm not saying we should just go and allow them to submit whatever length, but if you can communicate something in 250 words, why demand they write 2000? And then when they get an actual job, they'll have bosses and it becomes suddenly really easy to write over 20,000 words on a project you are working on, but bosses don't have time to read that and if you can't concise it down to a 200 letter e-mail, you'll often just infuriate your superiors with bullshit. Documentation is a different matter, but if it isn't nearly completely automated, you are not doing an efficient job archiving your documentation. It's also kind of rude way to write on forums unless you are literally dissecting something. When engaging in normal conversations, dumb it down. People read more than enough prose through their work, I'd bet.
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Mordaedil posted:It's also kind of rude way to write on forums unless you are literally dissecting something. When engaging in normal conversations, dumb it down. People read more than enough prose through their work, I'd bet. Wouldn't that degenerate my prose to such a degree that my language construction would lose too much meaning?
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trucutru posted:Wouldn't that degenerate my prose to such a degree that my language construction would lose too much meaning? It is unavoidable. It is... Sociable.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Jesus could you imagine talking to this guy at a bar? At work? At school? That was my first thought. This isn't meant to pile on top of LJ, but people tend to type how they speak. And if his writing style is any indication, I'd probably want to perforate my own eardrums listening to him.
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Okay. So I'm not an Animes man. Watched the Bebop, Akira, Evangelion, Miyazaki, and I reaaaaaally liked Satoshi Kon. That's the extent of my anime knowledge right there. I figured once I'd give the moving pictures versions of Berserk and JoJo a try, but it fell kinda flat for me. Too little motion, stupid CGI, dialog feels stupid when condensed to a Magical Narration Second instead of some speech bubbles. And then some girl starts talking about Madoka, how it's apparently awesome, but it's also recommended to me by a self-confessed brony, so like hell I'm stepping near that one. When I actually gave it a try, I literally knew nothing about it except there's magical girls and a bunnycat which is evil, but I thought people exaggerate.  Seriously, I've seen nothing like it. I've later read people comparing it to the insanity of late Evangelion, but Evangelion was painful until the last six episodes + End of Evangelion or so. The fights scenes were so great, and I love the different styles for the witches. I couldn't really imagine how to continue from the series except for a major retcon (and I guess the last movie did, in fact, have a character in-universe forcibly retcon the story?), but Rebellion did a nice job. Liked how people kept punking time-stop powers. Is there anything comparable to this? I'm not even that sure what was so compelling to me about this. The freaky mixture of styles, the time travel reveal, the apocalyptic atmosphere, a story not afraid of outright tormenting its characters, gloriously insane battles (Za Warudo army, gun-fu in slowmo, chainspear (???) shenanigans)... And something else that bothers me in many shows: although there are many talking heads scenes (hell, the bunnycat does a ton of deliciously evil monologues), it's not static, they do tons of camera tricks. The whole anime didn't feel static to me at any point. Maybe it's just a production value thing, or typical for that studio, I have no idea. I don't know anything about cinematography either, I just suddenly noticed the lack of something that bothered me elsewhere. Any recommendations? I'm hooked, and I've run out of anime.
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if you loved the directors style, watch his other stuff. be prepared for fanservice in a lot of them tho
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Torquemadras posted:Okay. The author is Gen Urobuchi (fate/zero, psycho-pass, tons of other stuff I'm forgetting), though this is his best work or close to it. The animation was done by shaft (nisekoi, monogatari series, tons of other stuff). The closest thing to more Madoka (besides watching the third movie, which is good) is probably Fate/Zero. Same author (though he was working with someone else's IP), same music composer, one of the best animation studios around (though the art is much more grounded than Madoka, there's nothing like the witch sequences).
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Torquemadras posted:So I'm not an Animes man... I'm going to recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena. Admittedly not because of anything you wrote, but mostly because it owns and partially as a middle-finger to that there brony bit  . It should improve your appreciation for what's outside an assumed demographic. 
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Ferretts posted:I'm going to recommend Revolutionary Girl Utena. Admittedly not because of anything you wrote, but mostly because it owns and partially as a middle-finger to that there brony bit Feel free to replace "brony" with "overall creep"  Recommendation taken!cheetah7071 posted:The closest thing to more Madoka (besides watching the third movie, which is good) is probably Fate/Zero. Same author (though he was working with someone else's IP), same music composer, one of the best animation studios around (though the art is much more grounded than Madoka, there's nothing like the witch sequences). This one looks nice. A cursory search gave me a first episode with lots of talking and little else, plus a video of a screaming knight on a possessed plane fighting a smug anime dude. Let's give this one the 3-episode test! Thanks for the suggestions so far!
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Torquemadras posted:Is there anything comparable to this? I personally recommend Shin Sekai Yori, partly because it's comparable to Madoka in terms of being unafraid to have bad things happen to the characters without being gratuitous about it, and partly because I just think it's really good. It's a longer show than Madoka and slower in places, but is a well-made story nonetheless.
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