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DaveWoo posted:I was going to write "what, no Trumpublican?" but no, he trademarked that, too. But he neglected "Trumpitarian". How's he going to win the young, white, male vote without that? Oh. Right. Never mind.
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Alter Ego posted:I dunno. I'd argue Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower weren't bad. Not very good for Latin America in at least one, probably both examples.
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Alter Ego posted:I dunno. I'd argue Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower weren't bad. Well, as long as you weren't living in Latin America. e:f,b
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SumYungGui posted:Employer loyalty? You'd have to be so deep red in your world view you're in infrared territory to have any loyalty to the sociopathic corporate monoliths that will throw you and your family out with used Kleenex the moment it makes them an extra buck. They're probably done loving the Kleenex though, on the way out they'll try to screw you for every dollar they can by doing anything to evade workman's comp and the like up to and including breaking what pitiful labor laws we have if it's profitable to do so. The whole loyalty thing is just a small part of that piece, which is more about the way we equate work ethic with being a good person. The take away is that a lot of people expect literally nothing beyond a paycheck from their employer, but still feel that it's vitally important that they commit themselves 100% to their work. It's kind of an interesting conclusion when job engagement in the US is comically low.
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VikingofRock posted:Speaking of thread titles, where did the current fortune cookie thing come from? I must have missed it last month.
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Paradoxish posted:The whole loyalty thing is just a small part of that piece, which is more about the way we equate work ethic with being a good person. The take away is that a lot of people expect literally nothing beyond a paycheck from their employer, but still feel that it's vitally important that they commit themselves 100% to their work. It's kind of an interesting conclusion when job engagement in the US is comically low. I think about all the things that adult Americans do every day that they hate. Everyone in the whole world hates hates getting up after too little sleep, rushing through the morning, sitting in traffic for an hour, going to a job they hate for nine hours, sitting in traffic for an hour on the way home for too little pay, lovely benefits and no little time off. We all hate it we all want something better, but for some reason millions and millions of people do the same thing and we don't change it for some reason. If you complain you are called lazy and everyone pretends like they love or at least can stand the grueling dystopic economic reality we live in.
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Paradoxish posted:The whole loyalty thing is just a small part of that piece, which is more about the way we equate work ethic with being a good person. The take away is that a lot of people expect literally nothing beyond a paycheck from their employer, but still feel that it's vitally important that they commit themselves 100% to their work. It's kind of an interesting conclusion when job engagement in the US is comically low. But how does that gel with this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/181289/majority-employees-not-engaged-despite-gains-2014.aspx I think it's all about appearing to give 200% at all times, while realizing you're getting hosed and actually delivering the absolute minimum. Which means the American workforce is finally starting to wise up ala the TPS thread in BFC.
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Jul 30, 2015 18:23
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If Trump actually gets really far in the nomination process, do you think we'll see Koch 2020?
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Chantilly Say posted:Cuckaquiddick 
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zoux posted:If the Koch's wanted to run for office they'd have done it before now. Yeah I just thought that through, why would they run for a less powerful office than the one they already hold.
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zoux posted:If the Koch's wanted to run for office they'd have done it before now. Its pretty clear they're more into pulling the strings than being the puppet.
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zoux posted:If the Koch's wanted to run for office they'd have done it before now. "Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be president?" - Lex Luthor Though actually if it turned out that Trump spent $75 million on a fake presidential campaign all to tick Bernie Sanders off, and admitted this while beating the crap out of Ted Cruz, it would be pretty awesome
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Fried Chicken posted:"Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be president?" - Lex Luthor Hey, how dare you compare a egomaniac mastermind to Lex Luthor! 
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quote:Aaron Mills, a volunteer leader of the recall effort in Sacramento, said his group is “just getting started”, but says he is fighting to oust Pan because he is concerned that SB277 is a “bad precedent” that could lead to other medical mandates. 
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Trabisnikof posted:Its pretty clear they're more into pulling the strings than being the puppet. Not too far a stretch to say we're all being Kocholded. And not the good kind like you want.
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Radbot posted:But how does that gel with this: http://www.gallup.com/poll/181289/majority-employees-not-engaged-despite-gains-2014.aspx The old engineering phrase is "if the minimum isn't actually acceptable then it really isn't the minimum now, is it?"
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zoux posted:If the Koch's wanted to run for office they'd have done it before now. David Koch ran third party on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980 as the vice presidential nominee. Once that failed he decided that being a politician was stupid anyway, and just decided to use his wealth to make the GOP come to him.
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quote:Aaron Mills, a volunteer leader of the recall effort in Sacramento, said his group is “just getting started”, but says he is fighting to oust Pan because he is concerned that SB277 is a “bad precedent” that could lead to other medical mandates. Not saying anti-vaxx is right, or that the guy isn't an idiot... but I can see the law being struck down. It's not that I necessarily trust everyone who ever made a vaccine, it's rather that I think there's a gap in public education as to how infectious disease used to literally wipe out civilizations. We just can't risk it, even if we don't trust the people making them. Coldbird fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Coldbird posted:The basic legal argument is sound; to my knowledge the Constitution doesn't lay out much about disease control, unless you want to argue it as 'providing for the common defense'. And it is a little odd, from an outside standpoint, that most/all of us are so hugely distrustful of big companies, and know the way they manipulate money and public fears to do horrible things, yet we're all suddenly on board when they sell the fear of infectious disease. It's entirely believable that a company making vaccines would have an incentive to make vaccines for anything and everything required, and they only make more money by going cheap on making them. This country has had a long legal history of the State being able to do basically anything to prevent epidemics. Specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
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I hope everyone that tries to recall him have kids that get a horrible and debilitating disease that is preventable with a vaccine.
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Hundreds of years and "a pox upon your children" still works. People never really change, do they?
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Coldbird posted:The basic legal argument is sound; to my knowledge the Constitution doesn't lay out much about disease control, unless you want to argue it as 'providing for the common defense'. And it is a little odd, from an outside standpoint, that most/all of us are so hugely distrustful of big companies, and know the way they manipulate money and public fears to do horrible things, yet we're all suddenly on board when they sell the fear of infectious disease. It's entirely believable that a company making vaccines would have an incentive to make vaccines for anything and everything required, and they only make more money by going cheap on making them. Actually it is not considering all these medical conspiracy theories haven't a shred of evidence behind them.
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A Winner is Jew posted:I hope everyone that tries to recall him have kids that get a horrible and debilitating disease that is preventable with a vaccine. 
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tsa posted:Actually it is not considering all these medical conspiracy theories haven't a shred of evidence behind them. The thing that's really hilarious about that particular conspiracy is that the government basically has to force (and subsidize) the pharmaceutical companies to produce these vaccines because they're so unprofitable.
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tsa posted:Actually it is not considering all these medical conspiracy theories haven't a shred of evidence behind them. I didn't mean any of the particular theories out there right now, only that it is generally feasible and it is something to keep in the back of one's mind if and when they're in a position to approve mandatory vaccinations. I don't think it's happening now though. I guess one could argue that it's unlikely there would be a huge incentive in vaccines in the first place, simply because treating a contracted disease will invariably be a far larger profit center than a vaccine which likely won't be over $100 even without insurance, but I'm not a huge expert on the division of labor in medical science. Trabisnikof posted:This country has had a long legal history of the State being able to do basically anything to prevent epidemics.
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Quote of the day, "The Munich deal would have made sense if Hitler just wanted German-speaking people under the German umbrella." ~ Lindsey Graham
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "The Munich deal would have made sense if Hitler just wanted German-speaking people under the German umbrella." ~ Lindsey Graham loll the sudetenland nooo
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tsa posted:Actually it is not considering all these medical conspiracy theories haven't a shred of evidence behind them. And then of course both the CDC and FDA monitor and regulate the everliving gently caress out of vaccines to ensure they're safe for kids in addition to the government giving pharmaceutical companies money to actually produce those vaccines. Like I said, I really hope every vaxxer in the world gets their kids horrific but easily vaccinated diseases. Unfortunately, it does work that way and instead these assholes end up killing 10 kids by being pieces of poo poo parents.
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Amergin posted:USPol August: Polls Show the Rapist In the Lead USPol August: Big D gets Kochblocked. Maybe that would be better for the primary thread though.
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A Winner is Jew posted:And then of course both the CDC and FDA monitor and regulate the everliving gently caress out of vaccines to ensure they're safe for kids in addition to the government giving pharmaceutical companies money to actually produce those vaccines. Given that the FDA regulates and monitors GMO food I don't think that's much of a comfort to them.
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computer parts posted:Given that the FDA regulates and monitors GMO food I don't think that's much of a comfort to them. The GMO people are just as dumb, only not literally guilty of third degree manslaughter.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "The Munich deal would have made sense if Hitler just wanted German-speaking people under the German umbrella." ~ Lindsey Graham And just the other day, Graham was criticizing Huckabee for his "door to the oven" remarks. So I guess Holocaust references are bad, but Hitler references are somehow okay? 
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Not an Owl posted:What's the likelihood of Planned Parenthood getting a federal investigation? What evidence would there need to be for enough probable cause to arise? Define "federal investigation" do you mean by the executive or by the legislature? I'm sure someone will open an investigation from the executive for cya purposes. Demand PP prove they have their forms etc. The congressional investigation will have only whatever limits Republicans want to put on it.
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DaveWoo posted:And just the other day, Graham was criticizing Huckabee for his "door to the oven" remarks. Nah he actually went there too quote:"The Munich deal would have made sense if Hitler just wanted German-speaking people under the German umbrella. Munich partitioning Czechoslovakia, and giving him more power and reenforcing his belief that the West was weak, was a terrible deal. He in fact, wanted to kill the Jews and have a master race," Graham told the Newsmax host. "This is a bad deal because the Ayatollah gets more money and more weapons and a clearer path to the bomb. Here’s what the deal does: It gives him a bomb, a missile to deliver and the money to pay for it. What would he do with a missile and the bomb? Does he feel compelled by his religion to attack Israel and destroy democracies like ours? I say yes." 
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