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Klaus88 posted:I'm hopeful this gets the ball rolling on systemic police reform since we so desperately need it in the United States. Why don't we have a condescending nod smiley?
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zoux posted:Why don't we have a condescending nod smiley?  or  work for you?
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Klaus88 posted:I'm hopeful this gets the ball rolling on systemic police reform since we so desperately need it in the United States. Very likely not this specific event but the cavalcade of this poo poo finally being reported on in national news and the according riots and protests, the totality of all of that, is what will.
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Sorry all, I'm new to D&D and this thread.Absurd Alhazred posted:I have a very simple pro going the relevant threads under RSF: Election Erection argument. It goes like this: Ah. I couldn't find the Primary thread because it's in a subforum I didn't see. Thanks! blue squares fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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greatn posted:People have made pro Hillary arguments, in this very thread, which by the way is not the primary thread or Hillary slapfight thread. I have a very simple pro going the relevant threads under RSF: Election Erection argument. It goes like this:  There is a general Primaries thread and a specific Hillary vs. Bernie deathmatch thread. Have fun. I encourage poster to report election-related derails, as there is way too much happening in US politics to turn this thread into a mirror GOP Crazy: So What/Hillary Is Of the Devil warzone.
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Klaus88 posted:I'm hopeful this gets the ball rolling on systemic police reform since we so desperately need it in the United States. It's not. It terrifies me to think about the scale of what would need to happen in order for systemic police reform in America and even then half the country would bitterly oppose it.
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Jul 30, 2015 22:21
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Klaus88 posted:
It's going to get worse before it gets better. A white person might get shot, perhaps.
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Jul 30, 2015 22:24
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's going to get worse before it gets better. A white person might get shot, perhaps. The white person will get shot by a black cop and racists will hijack the narrative.
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Jul 30, 2015 22:25
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's going to get worse before it gets better. A white person might get shot, perhaps. White people are already being shot by the police, people just don't particularly care too much. A few years back in Madison, a drunk white man walked into his neighbor (and friend's) home and got killed by a cop for it. People were upset but nothing particularly much happened about it. Several months ago a black teen got shot and killed after he charged a cop, citywide protests. All that's going to happen if a white person gets unjustifiably murdered by a cop is that the rest of the white cohort in America is just gonna shrug and go "He must have deserved it in some way" since no one they know has ever gotten into trouble with the police ever before unless they were actually actively being antagonistic towards the police. Therefore, if a white person got shot by a cop, they must have been white trash who attacked the cop, right? Now pass me the beer. But it's starting to grow, the idea of all this is starting to grow in public consciousness that black people are repeatedly and consistently hosed by the police. More incidents like Baltimore and Cincinnati will just solidify that belief.
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Jul 30, 2015 22:29
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blue squares posted:Hey Mulva since you post a lot, lemme ask: What excites you about Hillary Clinton? Her institutional knowledge. She knows the Executive, she knows the Legislative and has a pretty good handle on the Judiciary; and quite frankly I think she also has the ability to unite the party in a way that the President can't because of race.
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hillary is probably the most qualified candidate for pres we've ever had assuming that being first spouse gets you more presidental experience than veep like most first ladies aren't that involved in the political process but i bet hillary was like right there up in it as much as she could be
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Mulva posted:Her institutional knowledge. She knows the Executive, she knows the Legislative and has a pretty good handle on the Judiciary; and quite frankly I think she also has the ability to unite the party in a way that the President can't because of race. I also like Hillary's stance on education. She's the only potential candidate so far who's been consistently and demonstrably pro-education, which is an important issue to me within the Democratic field.
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I have a weird gut feeling that racists are briarpatching by going against police reform, honestly.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I have a weird gut feeling that racists are briarpatching by going against police reform, honestly. I think you might be crediting them with more intelligence than they deserve. In what way do you think racists would benefit from police reform?
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Brannock posted:All that's going to happen if a white person gets unjustifiably murdered by a cop is that the rest of the white cohort in America is just gonna shrug and go "He must have deserved it in some way" since no one they know has ever gotten into trouble with the police ever before unless they were actually actively being antagonistic towards the police. Therefore, if a white person got shot by a cop, they must have been white trash who attacked the cop, right? Now pass me the beer. But it's starting to grow, the idea of all this is starting to grow in public consciousness that black people are repeatedly and consistently hosed by the police. More incidents like Baltimore and Cincinnati will just solidify that belief. This actually happened recently where a white 30 year old father of two (Troy Goode) was hogtied and placed facedown on a stretcher after getting non-violently rowdy after a concert. He told them he had asthma and couldn't breathe, he got disappeared for a couple hours, and then he was dead. All the police department said was they think he was on LSD. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/21/man-hogtied-mississippi-police-dies-wife-alleges-threats-hospital-visit Most of the comments on the few media sites that bothered to report about it were just self-congratulation by racists about how when white people get murdered by the police, they don't burn things down like thugs and animals.
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Fried Chicken posted:story about LA cops killing a homeless man back in March just got a whole lot worse That story is a two-fer. Black, mentally-ill homeless woman picks up a dropped baton while this is all going on. She might've raised it in the air (not sure, the police will not release the video). She's charged with assault with a deadly weapon and might get life in prison. The police just needs to release the entire video of this incident because I'm sure the police story is full of poo poo. quote:The footage shows Carey briefly lifting the baton as police scuffle with Keunang nearby. It does not show her swinging the club or striking anyone, and the prosecutor says he won't try to prove she did so. octobernight fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Jul 30, 2015 22:42
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Aerox posted:Most of the comments on the few media sites that bothered to report about it were just self-congratulation by racists about how when white people get murdered by the police, they don't burn things down like thugs and animals. Yeah, in my experience the response is usually either "Heh, see, us white folks don't riot when bad things happen to us" or "Where is the outrage?  "
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Jul 30, 2015 22:44
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Brannock posted:I think you might be crediting them with more intelligence than they deserve. In what way do you think racists would benefit from police reform? If cops are less inclined to shoot people in general, future Dylann Roofs might be able to start even more havoc. This is not a statement against police reform, I'm just thinking of possible ways it could backfire and that seems to be the obvious one.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:If cops are less inclined to shoot people in general, future Dylann Roofs might be able to start even more havoc. Cops aren't supposed to shoot people unless the person being shot is about to kill or seriously harm someone. I don't think keeping police from gunning down someone who just vaguely moves their hand toward their waistband is going to suddenly give mass shooters the opening they need to start a slaughter. Especially since to my knowledge, the vast majority of mass shooters have started away from police in the first place.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:If cops are less inclined to shoot people in general, future Dylann Roofs might be able to start even more havoc. I can't envision any possible scenario of police reform where they wouldn't put down someone who was actively engaging in a mass shooting. Virtually all mass murders start and finish before any police arrive on scene.
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Brannock posted:I can't envision any possible scenario of police reform where they wouldn't put down someone who was actively engaging in a mass shooting. Virtually all mass murders start and finish before any police arrive on scene. A man is shooting a movie theater. The police arrive, but they cannot do anything for Ozero took their guns away to combat police brutality and the theater is a gun-free zone. "If only.. we had guns..." said the Police as they are mowed down by an AR-15. -freep
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Jul 30, 2015 22:58
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A white person living in Beverly Hills and a white person living in West Virginia probably have very different opinions about law enforcement.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Umm http://www.theonion.com/article/horrifying-police-body-camera-footage-clearly-show-50966
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Faustian Bargain posted:Few pages back but I think this is subtly placing blame on everyone but the cops. Still reads like the livers of Onion writers have given out from attempting satire and reality just telling them to gently caress off every step of the way.
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Jul 31, 2015 00:01
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's going to get worse before it gets better. A white person might get shot, perhaps. P.S. They Kill Whites Too
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Klaus88 posted:
Until cops are murdering wealthy white guys with impunity don't count on it.
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Sir Tonk posted:P.S. They Kill Whites Too At a much lower rate, especially in the youth demographic.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:In which a bunch of people with an axe to grind don't know how hard drives work. It goes without saying that you should never read comments, but don't read the comments unless you want to see someone's lovingly illustrated Hillary nudes. I wish I were joking.
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Jul 31, 2015 00:34
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 quote:Step right up, children of Ottumwa, Cedar Rapids and Sioux City! No tickets needed just put on your 'Make America Great Again!' cap and make your way to the front of the line for a ride on Donald Trump's flying fortress. Odds that he'll get permission for the copter rides: 1 in 10,000. Still, visiting a grounded copter will be more exciting for most fair-goers than watching candidates eat corndogs.
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Soonmot posted:It goes without saying that you should never read comments, but don't read the comments unless you want to see someone's lovingly illustrated Hillary nudes. it depends what age the pictures are depicting
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Jul 31, 2015 00:49
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They also have free copter rides at the Gathering of the Juggalos and I honestly don't know which copter I'd be more scared to board.
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Joementum posted:They also have free copter rides at the Gathering of the Juggalos and I honestly don't know which copter I'd be more scared to board. You must be at least this classy to ride the Trump Copter - - - - - - - ->
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Jul 31, 2015 00:54
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Dammit, I always come up short.
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Spun Dog posted:You must be at least this classy to ride the Trump Copter - - - - - - - -> It's a very classy copter.  Yes, there's leather. Yes, there's gold plating. Yes, he has custom branded bottled water on board.
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That is extremely classy and not at all gaudy and tasteless.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Iowa State Fair spokeswoman Mindy Williamson hates children, freedom, America, is probably a terrorist and doesn't want to #MakeAmericaGreatAgain.quote:He is welcome to land his helicopter anywhere outside the grounds and take people on rides or whatever he would like to do, Williamson said.
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Joementum posted:Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Iowa State Fair spokeswoman Mindy Williamson hates children, freedom, America, is probably a terrorist and doesn't want to #MakeAmericaGreatAgain. I shall never awkwardly eat a corn dog again.
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Willa Rogers posted:Step right up, children of Ottumwa, Cedar Rapids and Sioux City! No tickets needed just put on your 'Make America Great Again!' cap and make your way to the front of the line for a ride on Donald Trump's flying fortress.
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