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semper wifi posted:Did you get this info from a worldstar comment or something? god drat it's rare a user's custom text is so appropriate to one of their posts
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semper wifi posted:Did you get this info from a worldstar comment or something? Ah yes those "worldstar posters." What do they have in common, that makes them so wrong?
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Jul 30, 2015 14:46
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A Fancy Bloke posted:god drat it's rare a user's custom text is so appropriate to one of their posts He's just enraged that Tensing got charged.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:22
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Former University of Cincinnati police Officer Ray Tensing pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of murder and voluntary manslaughter in the July 19 shooting death of Samuel DuBose. At his arraignment, the judge set Tensing's bond at $1 million. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us/ohio-sam-dubose-tensing/index.html
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Jul 30, 2015 15:39
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Vahakyla posted:Former University of Cincinnati police Officer Ray Tensing pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of murder and voluntary manslaughter in the July 19 shooting death of Samuel DuBose. At his arraignment, the judge set Tensing's bond at $1 million. Glad to see they charged the murder as well as involuntary manslaughter, so they can't use the 'he meant to do it so it wasn't involuntary manslaughter' defense.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:44
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Chicago's fairly popular Second City Cop blog has a post on Tensing that offers some depressing insight into the police mindset regarding the shooting:quote:A cop in Ohio was indicted for murder yesterday: The mental gymnastics are pretty impressive, as it's definitely not like compliance with the law has ever meant much to the police here in Chicago. I imagine the majority of police across the country know EXACTLY what the prosecutor means by a bullshit stop that wasn't worth the loss of someone's life, but it seems like plenty are repressing the hell out of that knowledge.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:54
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quote:Police are pretty much obligated to stop people who are breaking the law and maintain the standards set by the elected representatives. Funny, I thought they had plenty of discretion with regards to traffic stops. At least, that's the line you hear whenever you ask why cops don't ticket their friends/family.
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Jul 30, 2015 16:47
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SedanChair posted:Ah yes those "worldstar posters." What do they have in common, that makes them so wrong? A Fancy Bloke posted:god drat it's rare a user's custom text is so appropriate to one of their posts I guess you guys have never been to worldstar, I get it though you guys like to keep your online activities confined to the gated community of SA, who could blame you some of those other sites have black people on them.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:05
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peengers posted:He's just enraged that Tensing got charged. Actually I think he deserved to be charged, plus I'm looking forward to a Zimmerman trial redux.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:13
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semper wifi posted:I guess you guys have never been to worldstar, I get it though you guys like to keep your online activities confined to the gated community of SA, who could blame you some of those other sites have black people on them. "You see, in this scenario, I have adopted the guise of rubber, while you have mimicked the properties of some sort of adhesive compound!"
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Jul 30, 2015 17:15
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I wonder if they're going to build a custom electric chair inside a car for Tensing's execution. Would only be fair IMO.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:15
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Neither he nor anyone else deserve death penalty or life imprisonment without parome.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:16
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Obdicut posted:Glad to see they charged the murder as well as involuntary manslaughter, so they can't use the 'he meant to do it so it wasn't involuntary manslaughter' defense. This way if they use the "gun went off by accident" defense, there will be a charge that will stick. I don't see a "I was in fear for my life" working, I don't think that you can convince a jury that the car was going to drive sideways.
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Jul 30, 2015 17:29
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semper wifi posted:Actually I think he deserved to be charged, plus I'm looking forward to a Zimmerman trial redux. Do you mean you want to see him acquitted?
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semper wifi posted:I guess you guys have never been to worldstar, I get it though you guys like to keep your online activities confined to the gated community of SA, who could blame you some of those other sites have black people on them. this is a pretty stereotypical attempt to deflect criticism by accusing others of being the real racists, please say something about the CNN plantation next e: the husband said there was no record of her treatment, it wasn't difficult to find boner confessor fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jul 30, 2015 |
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Jul 30, 2015 17:31
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semper wifi posted:Did you get this info from a worldstar comment or something? It's according to the husband, but I guess semper wifi would probably call that a 'worldstar comment' since he prefers speaking in dogwhistles. quote:While she was still awaiting arraignment, Turner was taken by TransCare ambulance to Montefiore Mount Vernon hospital between 7:30 p.m. and 8 p.m. Sunday after complaining that she did not feel well, police said. She was treated for hypertension — high blood pressure — and returned to the cell by ambulance shortly after 10 p.m., they said. http://www.lohud.com/story/news/2015/07/28/woman-dies-mount-vernon-holding-cell/30773979/
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Jul 30, 2015 17:41
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semper wifi posted:I guess you guys have never been to worldstar, I get it though you guys like to keep your online activities confined to the gated community of SA, who could blame you some of those other sites have black people on them. Go back to worldstar if you care about it so much then
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Jul 30, 2015 18:52
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Is bail for a murder charge common? I'd always assumed that was one of those charges that gets you no bail.
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Jul 30, 2015 19:07
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PostNouveau posted:Is bail for a murder charge common? I'd always assumed that was one of those charges that gets you no bail. You're correct that it is least common for murder of all crimes, but it happens decently often. Most murderers aren't actually at risk of killing again or something while on bail. quote:Between 1990 and 2004, 62% of felony defendants in State courts in the 75 largest counties were released prior to the disposition of their case. Beginning in 1998, financial pre- trial releases, requiring the posting of bail, were more prev- alent than non-financial releases. This increase in the use of financial releases was mostly the result of a decrease in the use of release on recognizance (ROR), coupled with an increase in the use of commercial surety bonds. These findings are from a multi-year analysis of felony cases from the biennial State Court Processing Statistics (SCPS) pro- gram, sponsored by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/prfdsc.pdf Also from there: quote:From 1990 to 2004, an estimated 62% of State court felony defendants in the 75 largest counties were released prior to the disposition of their case (table 1). Defendants were about as likely to be released on financial conditions requiring the posting of bail (30%) as to be granted a non- financial release (32%). Among the 38% of defendants detained until case disposition, about 5 in 6 had a bail amount set but did not post the financial bond required for release. So ~20% of the time someone charged with murder makes bail.
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PostNouveau posted:Is bail for a murder charge common? I'd always assumed that was one of those charges that gets you no bail. Pretty common here for non-capital murder. Bail is so varied from county to county (much less state to state) that it is hard to say if a bail amount is low or high unless you're practicing in that jurisdiction a lot.
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Jul 30, 2015 19:19
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ABC News with the passive voice headline ahoy! "Body cam footage made headlines again this week after Officer Ray Tensing was indicted for murder after he allegedly shot a man in the head during a traffic stop"
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Jul 30, 2015 20:04
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Police searching for floating disembodied hand, considered armed and dangerous.
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Phone posted:ABC News with the passive voice headline ahoy! Wait, why allegedly shot? Him shooting the guy isn't in question - it's the degree of criminality that is.
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Jul 30, 2015 20:08
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Phone posted:ABC News with the passive voice headline ahoy! that's not passive voice (in the relevant portion: it's described as "he shot" not "a shot happened'")
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^^^^^ Also Dirk the Average posted:Wait, why allegedly shot? Him shooting the guy isn't in question - it's the degree of criminality that is. American Journalism always does that, for everyone. Prevents libel claims.
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Jul 30, 2015 20:10
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Dirk the Average posted:Wait, why allegedly shot? Him shooting the guy isn't in question - it's the degree of criminality that is. From the same article; quote:I have a feeling whatever the influence of body cameras are now they will tend to grow as it becomes known they are pretty reliable records and subject to some interpretation of course,” said Silber. tl;dr - That's like your opinion man.
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Man_of_Teflon posted:then why did the legislature pass the law in the first place? For once a cop asks the right question.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:that's not passive voice (in the relevant portion: it's described as "he shot" not "a shot happened'") Ah, noted. I was just taking issue with what Dirk was saying.
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Jul 30, 2015 22:33
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Dirk the Average posted:Wait, why allegedly shot? Him shooting the guy isn't in question - it's the degree of criminality that is. While the officer was assisting a citizen with getting their license plate properly displayed, a mysterious shot rang out, tragically striking the citizen in the head. No stone will be left uncovered in the search to discover the origins of the unfortunately fatal discharge of some sort of a firearm.
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Dahn posted:While the officer was assisting a citizen with getting their license plate properly displayed, a mysterious shot rang out, tragically striking the citizen in the head. No stone will be left uncovered in the search to discover the origins of the unfortunately fatal discharge of some sort of a firearm. Grassy knoll off to the left lookin' mighty suspicious, just saying. All the news outlets I've seen have ditched "allegedly" from the shooting, although they try not to state directly that Tensing shot DuBose so often. Meanwhile the corroborating officers are currently bricking it, and the Graun reports that they were no angels: quote:Two police officers who corroborated a seemingly false account of the fatal shooting of Samuel DuBose in Cincinnati were previously implicated in the death of an unarmed, hospitalised and mentally ill black man who died after he was “rushed” by a group of seven University of Cincinnati police officers. You can now view the aftermath of DuBose's death in full 360o murdervision, with synchronised footage from Kidd & Lindenschmidt's cameras. Pay special attention to the serious damage caused to the back of Tensing's clothes. Murderion fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jul 31, 2015 |
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Disgusting murder for no reason at all. Oh wait he committed the deadly crime of not listening therefore deserved a point blank shot straight into his face.
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Jul 31, 2015 03:30
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Is there a gif yet of the 3 seconds where the cop reaches into the car, grabs the guy, and executes him?
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Jul 31, 2015 03:41
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i am harry posted:Is there a gif yet of the 3 seconds where the cop reaches into the car, grabs the guy, and executes him?  Yes.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:05
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How could a thug like that get away with sitting so aggressively in his car like that? I'm just sorry that poor bullet got in the way of that fiend's face.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:10
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Jesus gently caress, that quality of that video is like way better than what I'd previously seen and makes it about 10000x worse.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:14
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it doesn't even look like the car is moving till after the shot is fired. wtf kind of excuse can he make for why he fired then? cause the guy resisted a tiny bit?
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Condiv posted:it doesn't even look like the car is moving till after the shot is fired. wtf kind of excuse can he make for why he fired then? cause the guy resisted a tiny bit? There's no excuse. Cops err on the side of deadly force, particularly when it comes to minorities. He could've easily let Dubose go--and radioed in his vehicle/tag safely and efficiently. Instead, Dubose is dead because he did not have a front tag. Just like Walter Scott died for a taillight. Etc. Etc. Etc. But old, defiant, white dusty assholes like Cliven Bundy can arm themselves against the machine, point semiautomatic weapons at federal officers and not suffer any consequences. U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A 
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Jul 31, 2015 04:24
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Condiv posted:it doesn't even look like the car is moving till after the shot is fired. wtf kind of excuse can he make for why he fired then? cause the guy resisted a tiny bit? He (Dubose) puts his hand over the lock on his door right when the officer tries to open the door handle. I have no clue if he meant to do that or not but the timing was on with the cop just about to open his door. Then it just goes bad. Jesus Christ. That dude drove away as a corpse.
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Jul 31, 2015 04:46
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Armani posted:He (Dubose) puts his hand over the lock on his door right when the officer tries to open the door handle. I have no clue if he meant to do that or not but the timing was on with the cop just about to open his door. The cop was trying to drag him out of the car and he held the door closed. Apparently a death sentence, if you're a black guy.
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Here's a real question: Who remembers Cops (the show)? I know society is moving pretty quickly but we've gone from watching police chase crackheads under houses to POV "silencing" of civilians in 20 short years. i am harry fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jul 31, 2015 |
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