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pandaK posted:Alright, gonna pre-empt all the obvious replies here for what I'm about to ask, I know what I'm getting into. This is the only one I've seen with more buttons than the G600 and its like. I suspect it's not very good due to pretty much vanishing from the market in a couple of years and it just looks clumsy to use, but here's the 18 button Warmouse Meta: http://www.ebay.com/itm/WARMOUSE-ME...=item25aa4e5f47
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Rexxed posted:This is the only one I've seen with more buttons than the G600 and its like. I suspect it's not very good due to pretty much vanishing from the market in a couple of years and it just looks clumsy to use, but here's the 18 button Warmouse Meta: That appears to be a ~gaming~ reskin of the OpenOfficeMouse* which was an infamously terrible product in every way. * not actually related to OpenOffice in any way, and OpenOffice in fact sent a C&D to the mouse makers to stop them from using the name
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pandaK posted:Alright, gonna pre-empt all the obvious replies here for what I'm about to ask, I know what I'm getting into. The G600 can be programmed with 108 different actions ([20 buttons - 2] * [3 modes + G-shift]). What are you doing that needs more than that?
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NihilCredo posted:That appears to be a ~gaming~ reskin of the OpenOfficeMouse* which was an infamously terrible product in every way. It is the same mouse, by the same people; that C&D resulted in the new branding. They also shipped very few products, and the software guys gave up after a few releases, though the software suite (as it is) is pretty in-depth and functional, probably the best part of the mouse.
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Avulsion posted:The G600 can be programmed with 108 different actions ([20 buttons - 2] * [3 modes + G-shift]). What are you doing that needs more than that? Issue mostly being layout of thumbpad compared to a keypad really. I guess I could actually just go for a gaming keypad since most of them come with a joystick so I could use the WASD located keys for actual skill binds. Is that how it works or are keypad joysticks usually finicky about that kind of stuff? Specifically, I've been looking around and the Logitech G13 looks nice for FFXIV. Would I be able to use that joystick properly without doing some weird rebinding or setting the whole game to console mode or is it a huge pain?
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Maybe this is a really dumb question but is there any reason you can't map a mouse's side buttons to Shift/Alt/Ctrl and then use QEZXCRFV12345 with those modifiers for everything? The brief time I spent playing FF14 that's what I did, just set one hot bar to Shift+<key>, another to Alt+<key>, etc, and I mean that's upwards of 52 keys right there, not counting all the other buttons in the vicinity. I don't really play MMOs of that nature very much so I'm genuinely curious how many keys you need or if a layout like that isn't sufficient. I've been curious about those gaming keypads for a while but I haven't seen one yet with mechanical switches so that's right out as an option 
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Maybe this is a really dumb question but is there any reason you can't map a mouse's side buttons to Shift/Alt/Ctrl and then use QEZXCRFV12345 with those modifiers for everything? The brief time I spent playing FF14 that's what I did, just set one hot bar to Shift+<key>, another to Alt+<key>, etc, and I mean that's upwards of 52 keys right there, not counting all the other buttons in the vicinity. The new FFXIV expansion increases the combo chain for my favorite class from a 3 button sequence to 4. A 3x4 thumbpad is just not fit to accommodate any kind of sensible flow for that (especially with how the G600 discourages binding the combos in a vertical 1470, 258-, and 369+ manner because of how the buttons are ledged together.). A non-mechanical switch keypad is fine in my book since the way FFXIV queues up skills kinda eliminates the pros of having one, and if I'm playing a game that benefits from using mechanical keys, then I can just switch back to my proper keyboard. Futaba Anzu fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jul 26, 2015 |
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Jul 26, 2015 23:45
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For a frequently used combo I'd just make a macro. And I'm not sure what you mean by not being able to map a series of 4 commands on the 3x4 thumbpad. Why can't you just assign a row of 4 of them to, say, 9/0/-/= and put the 4 commands there?
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GokieKS posted:For a frequently used combo I'd just make a macro. Macros are discouraged in FFXIV: there are specific ways the skills are queued up along with a skill speed start that changes your global cool down so macros will almost always break and or not cycle through commands fast enough. Also NO you can't just bind 1234 in a row like that, are you crazy? That would ruin the flow of the binds!!!
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pandaK posted:Issue mostly being layout of thumbpad compared to a keypad really. I guess I could actually just go for a gaming keypad since most of them come with a joystick so I could use the WASD located keys for actual skill binds. Is that how it works or are keypad joysticks usually finicky about that kind of stuff? Specifically, I've been looking around and the Logitech G13 looks nice for FFXIV. Would I be able to use that joystick properly without doing some weird rebinding or setting the whole game to console mode or is it a huge pain? I use as g13 and let me tell you, I simply cannot play MMOs without it anymore. I can approximate the experience by switching to RDFG and using the extra buttons that my pinky will have access to but I don't feel as comfortable. Muscle memory makes it so I can press buttons 1-0 without issues while still having buttons to cycle targets, two buttons dedicated to pet actions (with modifiers it means I have full access of pet commands) and the rest for misc UIs. The joystick I use for UI calls. I don't feel comfortable using it for regular movement when I'm so train to use WASD likes for it. But its convenient to whip out the multitude of UI screens games like FFXIV have. I use to have a nostromo too but razor makes poo poo quality equipment and it died really soon. Inferior in just about every way and the decrease in key size meant you were forced to either use the nub for movement or use it for longer cooldown abilities.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I use as g13 and let me tell you, I simply cannot play MMOs without it anymore. I can approximate the experience by switching to RDFG and using the extra buttons that my pinky will have access to but I don't feel as comfortable. Muscle memory makes it so I can press buttons 1-0 without issues while still having buttons to cycle targets, two buttons dedicated to pet actions (with modifiers it means I have full access of pet commands) and the rest for misc UIs. My issue is that I really want to go all or nothing on this: either the joystick is good enough for movement and I bind the entire pad to skills and the like or I stay with WASD movement and don't go crazy with binding skills right next to my movement keys (such as Q and E, especially since in FFXIV they're alternative moving modes compared to A and D that I still occasionally switch up or use simultaneously.
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YggiDee posted:I'm sorry guys, it's me. I'm the one who likes mice with unnecessary lights. I liked having a Space Mouse to make me feel better about my lovely laptop. I have a good computer now but I'm not about to switch back to a boring mouse. This but about mice: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07052007
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Are there any compelling reasons not to buy a G700s?
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You don't already own a battery charger and rechargable AAs to deal with the short battery lifespan. That's about it. It's a great mouse otherwise.
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Jul 27, 2015 21:41
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I can just plug it in tho right? I'm not a hardcore gamer these days I just screw around in Witcher 3 for a couple hours at a time, but I would use it to change music or skip around in netflix from across the room - and I do not own rechargeable AAs so
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I just use it corded 100% of the time. If you plug it back in every day it's going to be fine.
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Does the G700s work properly with LGS? Because my G700 sure doesn't (well it's "supported" and being detected and all, but keeps losing its settings/profiles constantly so it's downright unusable until you install a pre-LGS version of SetPoint for it). Also the look is idiotic but I take that over other GAMERZ mice, and it has just enough buttons so I don't really need a telephone mouse.
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orcane posted:Does the G700s work properly with LGS? Because my G700 sure doesn't (well it's "supported" and being detected and all, but keeps losing its settings/profiles constantly so it's downright unusable until you install a pre-LGS version of SetPoint for it). Also the look is idiotic but I take that over other GAMERZ mice, and it has just enough buttons so I don't really need a telephone mouse. My G700 does that poo poo all the time when its wired. I don't get it. It never happens in wireless mode.
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I only use it with 'on-board' mode and haven't had any problems with it. I had a problem with the g700 (non-s) where having setpoint installed meant the dpi settings didn't work properly. It wouldn't drop profiles, but the dpi settings were constantly wildly wrong until I nuked every last trace of setpoint off of my computer. Like it would say it was set for 2800, but acted more like 1200. But if I plugged it in a different computer, it would act like the dpi on board settings claimed.
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Still waiting after two months on Logitech's tech support/warranty for my Master MX. I think I found some sort of weird tech support black hole over there, I submitted my address to them multiple times and the woman I was working with kept asking for a "complete address" despite me giving them exactly that, it felt like I was get trolled. Unbelievably negative experience.
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I think it's finally time to admit that I need a a replacement for my trusty Logitch G5 v2. What's the modern day equivalent? e: Master MX? Looks pricey, but good. Considering I got over 10 years use out of the G5, I suppose it's probably worth it if it's going to last as long again. Have wireless mice progressed to the point where the lag is not noticeable for gaming? ee: I should be more specific. I want a gamine mouse, mostly likely Logitch, doesn't have to have a million buttons though, I don't play MMOs. Something similar to the G5. I don't care if it's wireless or not but if there's any input lag at all then I'll take wired. I really like scroll wheels where you can choose to have them clicky or free wheeling. I'm now looking at the G402 and G502, considering the G602 but it's quite a price jump for wireless. chippy fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Jul 31, 2015 |
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chippy posted:I think it's finally time to admit that I need a a replacement for my trusty Logitch G5 v2. What's the modern day equivalent? You probably want the G502, it's their most full featured wired laser mouse and it has the scroll wheel toggle. The G402 is also good but doesn't have as many features.
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Ynglaur posted:Does anybody actually say, "I want a mouse that lights up like a loving rave dancer. I want a Superbowl halftime show coming out of my hand."? Goo, talk to your friends in Marketing. I'm genuinely curious. I dont know what it is but I seem to have some weird fascination with lighting. I've got RGB LED strips all over the apartment and several keyboards and mice (and my PC) that glow like the sun. White Auto-LED lights in the bathroom and cupboards, and on the terrace and balcony. I love lights
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chippy posted:I think it's finally time to admit that I need a a replacement for my trusty Logitch G5 v2. What's the modern day equivalent? G502 is great, best Mouse I've owned since the MS Sidewinder, god I miss that thing
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Astrobastard posted:G502 is great, best Mouse I've owned since the MS Sidewinder, god I miss that thing The Sidewinder X8? I loved the gently caress out of that mouse. Best wireless/wired gaming mouse I've ever owned. If someone made something with similar ergonomics and button layout, I'd buy the gently caress out of it.
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Microsoft please make more Sidewinders, we all want more Sidewinders.
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Astrobastard posted:I dont know what it is but I seem to have some weird fascination with lighting. I've got RGB LED strips all over the apartment and several keyboards and mice (and my PC) that glow like the sun. White Auto-LED lights in the bathroom and cupboards, and on the terrace and balcony. I love lights Well, I guess that answers my question. 
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Tornhelm posted:The Sidewinder X8? I loved the gently caress out of that mouse. Best wireless/wired gaming mouse I've ever owned. If someone made something with similar ergonomics and button layout, I'd buy the gently caress out of it. Still using mine, going strong after like six years as long as I clean the cat hair out of the wheel every few months. 
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My first generation razer naga mouse has finally broken down, and I am looking for a new gaming mouse. I am currently thinking about madcatz rat mmo 7, does anyone have any experience with the mouse?
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pandaK posted:My issue is that I really want to go all or nothing on this: either the joystick is good enough for movement and I bind the entire pad to skills and the like or I stay with WASD movement and don't go crazy with binding skills right next to my movement keys (such as Q and E, especially since in FFXIV they're alternative moving modes compared to A and D that I still occasionally switch up or use simultaneously. I used a g13 for wow for years and couldn't manage without it. Wasd bound to the joystick, and jump to the bottom right key covered everything movement wise, the central bank of keys for binds, the left keys for modifiers, and mouse buttons for twitch skills. Not sure how ffiv works but it's really easy to use for both movement and rotation without needing to move your hand. I don't play wow any more but still find it useful for other games with more keys than you can fit on a five button mouse.
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If I'm using an old model Logitech G400 (pre-  ,) and I just want a new version of that, is the G402 the mouse that I want?
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After my 3rd or 4th Deathadder started dying I decided to look around for a new mouse. Found out the Mionix Naos 7000 had a comparable sensor so I decided to give a shot. Still has the feel and digging the shape. Works perfect with my palm grip. I much prefer optical sensors so hopefully it will last longer.
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I bought a G303 thanks to the feedback here, and yeah it's pretty loving great. It may not be as wide and pucky as the G9X (rip) but I like the grip a thousand times better than the G502. Also it looks way nicer and doesn't have that awful textured bottom.
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Does the MX Master ever go on sale? I've been keeping my eyes peeled, but haven't even been able to find history of a deal outside a used Amazon Warehouse one for like $70-80. Edit: I'm retarded, I just noticed all the "This new mouse is the best!" articles are from March of this year.  Guess I'll keep dragging my MX518 further towards its horrible demise for now.
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So for some reason this turdball mouse is the most comfortable mouse I've ever used, but it only comes in wireless form. Does anyone know of anything similar in form to this except wired?
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surc posted:Does the MX Master ever go on sale? I've been keeping my eyes peeled, but haven't even been able to find history of a deal outside a used Amazon Warehouse one for like $70-80.
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lamentable dustman posted:After my 3rd or 4th Deathadder started dying I decided to look around for a new mouse. Found out the Mionix Naos 7000 had a comparable sensor so I decided to give a shot. Still has the feel and digging the shape. Works perfect with my palm grip. I much prefer optical sensors so hopefully it will last longer. What happened to your Deathadders? I bought a Deathadder Chroma two months ago and like it minus the fact that it doesn't have a smooth-scrolling mouse wheel (I also turned all the lighting off).
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Hey dudes, looking to possibly replace my mouse. I'm currently running a G9X; wondering if anything better's come out within the last 7 years since I bought it. I'm looking for a scrollwheel that can switch between free and click (ideally with a clutch auto-switcher like the MX-revolution; that was awesome), and ideally a grip where your palm isn't on the mouse, like the G9. Needs to have foward/back thumb buttons, and the scroll wheel needs to tilt. Any suggestions? If not, may stick with what I have. Do wireless mice still lag? It looks like the Logitch G502 may be my best bet; looks super dorky though. The top review for it on Amazon's a favourable comparison to the G9. No clutch scroll though. Dominoes fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Aug 4, 2015 |
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Dominoes posted:I'm currently running a G9X...ideally a grip where your palm isn't on the mouse, like the G9. The G502 is a palm grip mouse. You want the G303, which is the best G9x replacement Logitech (or anyone?) has. Unfortunately you won't have the ungearable scrollwheel. There's comments on the last few pages about people with this exact dilemma.
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Josh Lyman posted:I upgraded from the MX518 to G502. No regrets. Yeah, I've been eyeing that (and you can get it for $20 off for part of a back to school thing --under 'play'-- http://www.bts2015.logitech.com/en-us/home if anybody's looking for it. There's also a contest to enter to win some free stuff but I don't know if it's physically possible to link that without sticking an affiliate thing onto it so just go check it out I guess) . I'm thinking I might like to go wireless though, I've switched from a desktop to a laptop setup because I'm going to be on the road, so I imagine I might actually find it useful.
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