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EoRaptor posted:Installing and activating windows 7 (or 8), updating that copy of windows 7 until it has KB303583 installed*, then performing the upgrade again (just start the installer from within windows) will submit the new hardware signature to MS, and allow windows 10 to activate on it in future. I upgraded from a fresh windows 8 install that had zero updates installed. croutonZA fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 31, 2015 |
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Jul 31, 2015 23:50
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Medium rare. Oh I thought we were ordering steaks.
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Jul 31, 2015 23:52
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Volguus posted:Even after the 1 year free window? No one has any idea. Especially because it hasn't been a year yet and Microsoft's activation system doesn't give us a way to test your theory. This is why (addressing earlier posts) talk like "Windows 10 will still be treated like retail" is premature, especially when clearly it's being treated like OEM/single-system.
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Jul 31, 2015 23:58
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ElrondHubbard posted:What are your sleep settings and power settings related to sleep?
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Aug 1, 2015 00:00
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Volguus posted:Even after the 1 year free window? Officially, no. In practical terms, MS will probably extend the timeline depending on how far Windows 10 has penetrated the market. It's not possible to say for sure.
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Aug 1, 2015 00:04
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Skywalker OG posted:I just got the windows 10 upgrade prompt on my Lenovo x230 laptop and when I tried to run it it said "Windows couldn't update the system reserved partition." What's this about? You need to increase the size of your boot partition to ~400MB. I used Partition Wizard.
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Aug 1, 2015 00:16
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I've done in-place upgrades over Win 7 on four machines now with no problems noted so far. Quite a variety of hardware too: - Main desktop machine, i5-2320 with a Radeon HD7750 -The little Gateway shitbox that runs my CNC machine, AMD APU-based -A Dell 1012 netbook (upgraded to 2GB RAM) -A Vista-era Inspiron 1525 laptop, circa 2008. Works great. I also have a new Dell box w/Win 10 Home on the way to replace that Gateway. Got a really good sale price + some extra discounts on a little i3-4170 rig (that's probably still ten times the horsepower I need to run the CNC,) but that loving AMD APU is the most worthless piece of hardware ever invented. I'd be embarrassed to even admit owning it if it hadn't been given to me for free...no, I take that back. I'm still a little embarrassed.
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Aug 1, 2015 00:30
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It's a small thing, but can you still not change Windows' system language on the fly? In two thousand freaking 15? edit: also, can I no longer take the recycle bin off the desktop? Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 00:31
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Animal posted:I tried that. Strangely, it works for a little while, in which I can even run 3DMark's DX12 API test, then after a while I am back to DirectX 11.3, without even rebooting. Same on mine enabled it and it went to 11.3 disabled it and back to 12.
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Aug 1, 2015 00:36
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Samurai Sanders posted:It's a small thing, but can you still not change Windows' system language on the fly? In two thousand freaking 15? Wow, I didn't realize they hid desktop icon settings. That's ridiculous. Settings > Personalize > Theme > Desktop Icon Settings Samurai Sanders posted:Mine's going to sleep after ~10 minutes even though it's set not to... Checking the power settings is the only trick I've got for that problem and it sounds like you've probably checked those already.
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Aug 1, 2015 00:58
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Lowtechs posted:Same on mine enabled it and it went to 11.3 disabled it and back to 12. Thanks for checking. Its confirmed then. MFAA is too good to sacrifice, since there are no DX12 games out anyways. I hope they fix this in time, posted it on the NVIDIA forums.
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Aug 1, 2015 01:02
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What is the point of having Settings and also Control Panel?
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Aug 1, 2015 01:19
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MY ABACUS! posted:What is the point of having Settings and also Control Panel? It's for backwards compatibility, enough apps and drivers still only expose their settings via control panel that they decided it has to stay for now.
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Aug 1, 2015 01:26
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Honestly, I appreciate how difficult it is for MS to make an OS to work on a possible mix of new and ancient hardware and software. They only just finally got rid of the floppy disk drivers, right? Who knows what other ancient technology support is still in there.
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Aug 1, 2015 01:49
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It seems that with elements scaled, things that have their own snapping, like Trillian's contact list, don't quite reserve the right amount of space. I have mine snapped to the right, and maximizing some other window overlaps by about 20 pixels on 1920x1080 x 125%.
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Aug 1, 2015 01:49
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Samurai Sanders posted:Honestly, I appreciate how difficult it is for MS to make an OS to work on a possible mix of new and ancient hardware and software. They only just finally got rid of the floppy disk drivers, right? Who knows what other ancient technology support is still in there. They didn't get rid of floppy disk drivers.    (the disk is disk 7 of the Windows 3.11 install set)
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Aug 1, 2015 02:09
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Nintendo Kid posted:They didn't get rid of floppy disk drivers. I believe they got rid of the drivers for the floppy disk interface (as in internal floppy drives attached with a ribbon cable to the connector that probably hasn't existed on any motherboards you've bought in the last decade), but USB Mass Storage floppy drives should always work unless someone got a stick up their rear end and decided to go out of their way to break it.
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repiv posted:It's for backwards compatibility, enough apps and drivers still only expose their settings via control panel that they decided it has to stay for now. I get that. What I don't get is what the point of the settings app is - just seems like a far less convenient alternative than just sticking with control panel.
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dissss posted:I get that. The intent seems to be to centralize all controls in to an interface that appears consistent, similar to Mac OS X's "System Preferences" or the various mobile platforms' "Settings" apps. They kind of half-assed it with some of the controls in Vista/7 by making them in to active folders of sorts, but no third parties seemed to really adopt the idea. Presumably this will over time become mandatory for Windows Logo certification or something like that. wolrah fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 02:22
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wolrah posted:I believe they got rid of the drivers for the floppy disk interface (as in internal floppy drives attached with a ribbon cable to the connector that probably hasn't existed on any motherboards you've bought in the last decade), but USB Mass Storage floppy drives should always work unless someone got a stick up their rear end and decided to go out of their way to break it. I would doubt it, honestly. It doesn't make sense to drop something that's that simple, and often baked into other things. It was present in 8.1, after all, and dropping support for it couldn't do anything other than save a few kilobytes on the install media.
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Nintendo Kid posted:I would doubt it, honestly. It doesn't make sense to drop something that's that simple, and often baked into other things. It was present in 8.1, after all, and dropping support for it couldn't do anything other than save a few kilobytes on the install media. As far as I can find if you have a machine with an actual proper floppy disk controller and install Windows 10 on it you'll see an unknown device with the ID "ACPI\VEN_PNP&DEV_0700". I got rid of most of my pre-DDR3 hardware recently so I don't have anything to try it with myself, but it apparently acts the same in a VM so I'll give that a shot after I'm done reinstalling my desktop. edit: According to this guy the driver from Windows 8 does work in Windows 10, so if any of you actually care about floppy drives you're not totally out of luck. wolrah fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 02:32
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My upgrade froze at 92%, during configuring settings. Left it for an hour but no progress. At least it got back to Win 7.
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Aug 1, 2015 02:54
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Upgrade from 8.1 went pretty smoothly after I triggered it for myself. The font rendering seems a bit messed up in places, particularly Roboto on these forums in Firefox. I've run through the Cleartype tuner a couple of times and it doesn't seem to have fixed it. Whether there's something else to be tweaked within Firefox, I'll have to poke around with that later. Everything else seems pretty good, aside from the ads in the freemium apps. (Already downloaded a free calculator because of that poo poo.)
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Oh, you can change display languages without a reinstall after all (after downloading the language pack anyway), it just wasn't obvious how. That's been the feeling I've been getting about a few things I've run into so far. edit: weird, even after setting it to English, Cortana won't work because I'm in Japan. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 03:18
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Samurai Sanders posted:Oh, you can change display languages without a reinstall after all (after downloading the language pack anyway), it just wasn't obvious how. Most settings show up if you search for them like literally if you type in "change language" "Region and language settings" show up. If you google it, it's the first search result. If you say "Hey Cortana, change the language" she starts up "Region and language settings".
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Sorry to just jump in when I'm sure this has been answered; I've been reading that you need to 'upgrade' first, before doing anything else. Otherwise MS won't have your hardware registered for Win10 But if I do the upgrade (from 8.1 to 10) in preparation for a fresh install, the hardware registration won't matter anyways, as I am building a new PC specifically to install Win10 on Or is the answer build new PC, install Windows 8.1... upgrade... and then clean install? Cause if it is holy hell that's a little round-about!
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Sappo569 posted:Sorry to just jump in when I'm sure this has been answered; Yes, you need to migrate your retail windows 7 or 8 license to the new machine by activating it on the new system and deactivating on the old, then upgrade it to Windows 10 to convert that to a device specific license, sending the hardware id to Microsoft in the process. You can try the reset windows option at that time, which should give you the same effect as a clean install (don't forget to run disk cleanup and remove the old windows version first), or just format and clean install.
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EoRaptor posted:Yes, you need to migrate your retail windows 7 or 8 license to the new machine by activating it on the new system and deactivating on the old, then upgrade it to Windows 10 to convert that to a device specific license, sending the hardware id to Microsoft in the process. Cheers So an hour(ish) long process just turned into a whole afternoon  Who am I kidding, when has a new windows release ever installed cleanly in under an hour
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Sappo569 posted:Cheers Mine did last night I must admit to being surprised, though.
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grack posted:Mine did last night You're right, even having to do all this back and forth.. with the advent of SSD's and loading off USB 3.0 sticks, it's more than possible
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Aug 1, 2015 03:51
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I like how they managed to update the icon for a floppy drive to their new design language, but not for CD/DVD/Blu-ray drives.
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Are drive letters A and B still reserved for floppy disks forever? edit: Rurutia posted:Most settings show up if you search for them like literally if you type in "change language" "Region and language settings" show up.  .I know you can Google how to do it but I'm interested in how intuitive the menus themselves are. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Aug 1, 2015 03:59
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It's weird that you can download maps for every region except Japan.
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Aug 1, 2015 04:05
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BattleCattle posted:It's weird that you can download maps for every region except Japan.
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The first thing I'm super impressed with with Win10: My computer (self built, not store bought) slept all night without waking up! That's got to be a first for me. There's still a couple of settings I'm looking for, like how to change title bars from white to match the system theme instead but for the most part I'm pretty happy with things, love the upgraded Task Manager (not sure how much of it was from Win 8/8.1 as I only used that briefly). A bit confused on why I can't remove all these Camera and Groove apps on a Pro desktop install but I guess that's part of their unified touch/tablet approach I'm just going to have to live with.
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VodeAndreas posted:like how to change title bars from white to match the system theme instead I never noticed it before, but now I can't stop noticing it. It's really bothering me.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Are drive letters A and B still reserved for floppy disks forever?   I'm not sure if this is what you're seeing, maybe your deployment sucks. But this is what I see and I don't find it unintuitive at all.
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The reason I was plagued with keyboard and mouse issues on clean installs is one non win 10 compliant USB driver. It irks me to see it broken, but it effectively still works. I'm not going to hold my breath that ASUS will fix it, (but maybe) ..my last bios update is 2012. I don't even think it supports win 8! ASUS P8P67 WS REVOLUTION<REV 3.0>
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