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Wanamingo posted:So Clara's supposed to be French? Before she went and used the word vraiment I was thinking she sounded vaguely Latin American. She is French-Canadian. So, clearly evil. Seraphroy posted:Only beer, thankfully. Liquor is monopolized by the LCBO (Liquor Control Board of Ontario), who have their own stores. Those also have select beers in them. I think the situation is similar to Sweden, from what I know, the government-owned chain of liquor stores has a strict monopoly on that. Apparently it's not bad, you can have them order stuff for you so availability isn't bad? And you can always just order online and get it sent to you. Wikipedia also mentions similar government liquor stores in Norway, Finland, Iceland, and the Faroe Islands. VV: I was checking the website earlier, and you can order Magners, I don't see the issue. 
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Yup, government monopolies are pretty nice. Too bad none of the ones here stock good cider. 
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Aug 1, 2015 14:16
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It really depends. I've lived in two states with government monopolies on liquor, they're usually decent about ordering but it seemed like you had to do it often. Though Washington State had a stock list online, so if you didn't want to wait you could find out which store had something and go there. We recently deregulated and it seems like there are more stores that are larger and have more choices, at least around here. Just the selection of gin, scotch, vodka, etc. I can get without a special order is better than it was before. Total Wine is great. You can even just pick up a bottle of mass market stuff while at the grocery store. Great Joe posted:Yup, government monopolies are pretty nice. Too bad none of the ones here stock good cider. The best cider I've ever had is Hard Washington. A benefit to living in apple country. A bit hard to find around here, but if you ever have the chance - literally everything I've tried of theirs is excellent.
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Aug 1, 2015 15:48
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And this is where the game goes back to trying to make Aiden into Batman. Mind you, I actually kinda like the dialogue in the initial part of the first cutscene. Its some actual vulnerability from Aiden, but also slightly autistic in a way that I can kinda get. Forgetting that just because he knows about something doesn't mean others understand it - and looking more crazed for it. Then he blows up his apartment because apparently that's the sort of contingency you prepare for as a hacker/vigilante. Abbot Island is just weird to think about as well. Mostly because there was a much easier way to get the same thing without the embarrassingly easy issue of 'why not just take a boat?'. Just make it some random building in the city you'd never given real consideration to before that moment. Lock the prompt to open it until the proper story point - Frewer and all - is triggered. Also saves on resources since you don't need some weird super secret island with an ultimately superfluous bridge mechanism.
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Aug 1, 2015 17:05
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That old guy who flipped the poker table looked like he teleported through the ceiling, since Aiden vision seems to make the guy appear to run through the walls of the building while the screen got cluttered in junk.monster on a stick posted:It really depends. I've lived in two states with government monopolies on liquor, they're usually decent about ordering but it seemed like you had to do it often. Though Washington State had a stock list online, so if you didn't want to wait you could find out which store had something and go there.
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Aug 1, 2015 17:50
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So a neat thing about the Poker game that you didn't get to see is that you can actually use your phone and cheat to see everybody else's hands! Because for some reason there are camera around in this dudes basement?
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Aug 1, 2015 18:57
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:So a neat thing about the Poker game that you didn't get to see is that you can actually use your phone and cheat to see everybody else's hands! Because for some reason there are camera around in this dudes basement? well, you can see a player or two's hands. You never can see all three. Also, for some reason Aiden's magic phone can also read heartbeats and tell if someone is nervous at the table.
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Aug 1, 2015 19:00
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Astro Nut posted:Mind you, I actually kinda like the dialogue in the initial part of the first cutscene. Its some actual vulnerability from Aiden, but also slightly autistic in a way that I can kinda get. Forgetting that just because he knows about something doesn't mean others understand it - and looking more crazed for it. It's one of those things that once again seems like it was hacked in from another draft of the script. It tries to show Aiden as having a really weird (and yeah, kind of autistic) sense of what other people know and understand and having difficulty communicating, something that would go well with a character like Rami Malek in Mr. Robot (which cannot be recommended enough as an example of Watch_Dogs done right). But it clashes with the rest of the game trying to show him as the quintessential smooth operator, the guy who headshots half a dozen men while sneaking into a totally secured compound without getting seen even once or raising an alarm, somehow hacking your gun when you try to pull it out, and then whipping out massive amounts of convenient blackmail material to make you do exactly what he wants you to do and smacking you in the nose with a baton before leaving and giving a quip over your unconscious body.
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Mokinokaro posted:well, you can see a player or two's hands. You never can see all three. Aiden's phone is starting to turn into Marvel Comics armor.
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Aug 1, 2015 20:13
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I was going to say it seemed more like Batman's Detective Vision, but yours is good too.
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Aug 1, 2015 20:34
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I think I found the phones in Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 to be more realistic, and they were flip phones that summoned demons and cast fireballs.
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Aug 1, 2015 20:59
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I thought about this for a whole day and I finally get it. This is the part of the game where the developers realized Aiden needs his very own Batcave so they just made up this software QA bunker Aiden can have for himself.
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It's really bothersome that Aiden can never once say a loving word to the cashier when he's buying something. He just stares into his phone, takes one sip of Soft Drink, and is done with the whole exchange. What a soulless robot. Just say 'thank you' or something, drat it.
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Ghost Stromboli posted:It's really bothersome that Aiden can never once say a loving word to the cashier when he's buying something. He just stares into his phone, takes one sip of Soft Drink, and is done with the whole exchange. What a soulless robot. Just say 'thank you' or something, drat it. I can pass off all the wanton murder and hypocrisy as video game logic and poor writing, but portraying Aiden as the type of person who talks on their phone the whole transaction is the last straw. At least acknowledge a fellow human being who's trying to help you! 
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Ghost Stromboli posted:It's really bothersome that Aiden can never once say a loving word to the cashier when he's buying something. He just stares into his phone, takes one sip of Soft Drink, and is done with the whole exchange. What a soulless robot. Just say 'thank you' or something, drat it. Look, man, it is just a Cashier. Seriously? Edit: You know, please tell me I am wrong and Ubi isn't this clever. Couldn't the lame names of everything possibly just be a twist on the unreliable narrator idea? Aiden gives zero fucks about stores and such, other than what he can get for himself there, so he mentally blanks out uniqueness like store names?
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Aug 2, 2015 00:34
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 The life of a hacker man is always intense.
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Samizdata posted:Edit: You know, please tell me I am wrong and Ubi isn't this clever. Couldn't the lame names of everything possibly just be a twist on the unreliable narrator idea? Aiden gives zero fucks about stores and such, other than what he can get for himself there, so he mentally blanks out uniqueness like store names?
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FinalGamer posted:Also I know StrawhatNO did Sleeping Dogs for an LP but I absolutely would love to see Chip and Ironicus play Sleeping Dogs at least to wash the taste of Watch_Dogs out of their mouths. You can never have too many Sleeping Dogs LPs. I second this motion.
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Zereth posted:If they really wanted to sell that they'd need to make things much more generic. Aiden wouldn't be getting his Soda at Quinkies or whatever it was, he'd be getting it at FAST FOOD. Whew!! I almost lost faith and thought this game's writing and design didn't hilariously suck. Now I am back safely in the fold of the Church of the Iconic Cap.
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When I think "iconic cap", I think Terry Bogard. He'd make for a much better protagonist. He already even has a very clear-cut revenge plot.
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Suspicious Cook posted:When I think "iconic cap", I think Terry Bogard. Not nearly as iconic as the cap of that beloved whimsical vigilante The Fox. So charismatic and mysterious! I wish I knew who he was!  
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Suspicious Cook posted:When I think "iconic cap", I think Terry Bogard. Just replace every Aiden dialogue with random Terry quotes. ARE YOU OKAY!? BUSTAH WOLF!
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Aug 2, 2015 02:50
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Terry would be hilarious as an open world protagonist because he is pretty explicitly a hobo who crashes on his girlfriend's couch when he isn't doing karate at rich assholes.
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If this game was indeed Repo Man the video game, I would play the poo poo out of it. But I'm afraid that would require a degree of self awareness that Ubisoft lacks.
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Mors Rattus posted:Terry would be hilarious as an open world protagonist because he is pretty explicitly a hobo who crashes on his girlfriend's couch when he isn't doing karate at rich assholes. MonsieurChoc posted:Just replace every Aiden dialogue with random Terry quotes. FinalGamer fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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Aug 2, 2015 03:54
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The last couple streams I've done are going up! We've got Jack the Reaper and Contradiction up right now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDxst0clWKE Demo can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4gWYnofew
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Suspicious Cook posted:When I think "iconic cap", I think Terry Bogard.
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Chip Cheezum posted:The last couple streams I've done are going up! We've got Jack the Reaper and Contradiction up right now! I love FMV games. Anyone remember one on the sega CD where you played as a spy and had to ski with a funny helmet on and shoot guys? Real descriptive I know.
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Accordion Man posted:Geese is also a far better villain that's actually intimidating even though he has a goofy rear end name. Name like that, you kinda have to be a badass to get anywhere.
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Accordion Man posted:Geese is also a far better villain that's actually intimidating even though he has a goofy rear end name. He's named after one of the most vicious creatures, how is that goofy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81ptFSA4mk
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FinalGamer posted:That alone makes him more explicitly likeable than Aiden Pearce living in a lovely motel room where no sunlight shall ever breach, whilst occasionally moping around his sisterwife's place moping at his sonnephew's cake. Oh, definitely. And Blue Mary's a cool lady, she's a PI and jazz singer.
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Samizdata posted:Look, man, it is just a Cashier. Seriously? It's just rude. Even Patrick Bateman had some manners.
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Ghost Stromboli posted:It's just rude. Even Patrick Bateman had some manners. Until he threw a chainsaw at you. Or inserted live rats into a bodily orifice...
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I'm starting to wish that this game didn't have gun fights and just depended entirely on hacking or hand-to-hand takedowns. Like a more sneaky version of Sleeping Dogs.
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Mors Rattus posted:Oh, definitely. And Blue Mary's a cool lady, she's a PI and jazz singer. And she has a dog. Lovable animals always help the audience identify with characters. Does Watch_Dogs even have any wildlife, let alone dogs to watch? KoF/Fatal Fury dialogue's a lot better too. 
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Phoenixan posted:I'm starting to wish that this game didn't have gun fights and just depended entirely on hacking or hand-to-hand takedowns. Like a more sneaky version of Sleeping Dogs.
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Super Bunnyhop suggested that ditching the open world altogether might have made this a better game, instead make it a series of mini-sandboxes like Deus Ex so the design is more focused, but still gives you a big enough arena you can have fun with different strategies.
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Phoenixan posted:I'm starting to wish that this game didn't have gun fights and just depended entirely on hacking or hand-to-hand takedowns. Like a more sneaky version of Sleeping Dogs. Even Sleeping Dogs has guns, and guns can provide a lot to the game. But it makes guns and ammo a relatively uncommon resource and incorporates them into the existing martial arts system so using them flows relatively easily. Another example would be Mirror's Edge, where guns give you a massive edge in fights but they restrict your parkour abilities and even running speed (with heavier guns being more restrictive) and you can't carry spare ammo to reload.
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If the game didn't have guns at all, people would complain that Aiden was putting himself, his sister, Clara, etc., at risk by not protecting himself and them properly from the well-armed thugs that want to kill them.
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Phoenixan posted:I'm starting to wish that this game didn't have gun fights and just depended entirely on hacking or hand-to-hand takedowns. Like a more sneaky version of Sleeping Dogs. That would make more sense and show Aiden to have at least some rules to work under, but crappy writing, muddled game mechanics, ect. ect.
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