bitcoin bastard posted:

p sure youre no true scotsman unless youre balancing on the line between alcohol poisoning and coma

Carbon dioxide posted:

This is a KLM plane, but during the bad storm last saturday, a Transavia flight to Rotterdam airport was redirected to Amsterdam Schiphol airport after they had to abort a landing. They circled above Amsterdam for a while, attempted another landing, aborted at the last moment and went back up.

After that they were almost out of kerosene and had only one try left. According to folks on board, the cabin personnel shouted (instead of using the intercom) "Brace for impact, get your head down!" a few times, and then the plane landed in a rough but safe manner. A frequent flyer said that it was a rather traumatizing experience.

After landing, the plane went to some gate quite far from the main hall, the passengers left the plane... and then they were left alone. They walked the distance to the central hall by themselves, and after they asked around and complained, in the end a KLM employee showed them where their luggage was and arranged bus rides to Rotterdam.

Transavia told the press that they were too busy 'dealing with the storm' to have anyone help the passengers, but promised they would give the passengers a phone call later that week to ask if they were doing okay.

drat Transavia, is it that hard to get a single customer service person out there and receive/support a bunch of people who just survived a very risky emergency landing? I'd give that some priority. But nope, gently caress our customers, let KLM deal with it.


Nobody died behind the bar or in the dressing room. I conclude those are safe places to be during a fire.

Sassafrasquatch posted:

You in parasitology? Histology? And what was everyone else doing, just dumping it down the sink?

Ein posted:

I was in a situation like that a couple of years back during a particularly vicious storm, they tried to land the plane five times before they quickly had to abort the landing and get up to circle for a while before another attempt. You could feel the whole plane swerving and turning in a frightening fashion and during one of the last attempts to land they had to suddenly abort at the last minute and bank the plane very sharply to the left and really closely to the ground. I'm exaggerating when I say that I could almost count the pine cones on the trees during that one because we were so close to the ground and looking out the window was almost like looking straight down. God drat that was frightening. Eventually they were running so low on fuel they had to fly to another airport to refuel it and at that point I asked if I could just get out and maybe take a bus or train to where I was going but I wasn't allowed to do that.

The whole thing really put the fear in me and it turned me from a VERY frequent flyer to someone that now chooses to ride a train for 12-18 hours instead of getting on another of those flying death machines. When I'm forced to fly I have to hit the Xanax pretty hard and booze it up before I even set a foot on the drat thing and it still makes it a sweaty white knuckle experience.

Ein posted:

I was in a situation like that a couple of years back during a particularly vicious storm, they tried to land the plane five times before they quickly had to abort the landing and get up to circle for a while before another attempt. You could feel the whole plane swerving and turning in a frightening fashion and during one of the last attempts to land they had to suddenly abort at the last minute and bank the plane very sharply to the left and really closely to the ground. I'm exaggerating when I say that I could almost count the pine cones on the trees during that one because we were so close to the ground and looking out the window was almost like looking straight down. God drat that was frightening. Eventually they were running so low on fuel they had to fly to another airport to refuel it and at that point I asked if I could just get out and maybe take a bus or train to where I was going but I wasn't allowed to do that.

The whole thing really put the fear in me and it turned me from a VERY frequent flyer to someone that now chooses to ride a train for 12-18 hours instead of getting on another of those flying death machines. When I'm forced to fly I have to hit the Xanax pretty hard and booze it up before I even set a foot on the drat thing and it still makes it a sweaty white knuckle experience.

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

"Don't walk under suspended loads" is a fairly common safety meeting topic.

Uthor posted:

There's a difference between a static structure designed to stand up under the force of gravity and a dynamic structure designed to stand up as long a mechanical force is exerted on it.

Jerry Cotton posted:

Number of people who've died under collapsing buildings and bridges: hella high.
Number of people who've died under collapsing excavators: not so high.

How do you explain that, atheists!!??!

zedprime posted:

Why don't they build bridges out of excavators

DemonToadGoat posted:

Bitch, what do you know about hoes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSfl6XPKFYA

Mokotow posted:

Hey there fear of flying buddy . I had a very similar story - flew frequently for years, hit bad turbulence over Nevada, stopped flying for 15 years. Every flight after that was a nightmare, but finally took a job that has me flying constantly. After powering through the first dozen flights and developing an unhealthy obsession for flight sims and ATC, I'm back to semi-normal. You need to power through it with a series of flights or its only going to get worse. Remember that at the end of the day that fear is totally irrational.

Ein posted:

I went from something like 40 boring flights a year to gently caress THIS, it was that bad. Previous to that I used to enjoy sitting at the back of the plane to get that feeling of tilt and lift. I really enjoyed it.
To be fully comfortable I'd like to be in the captains cabin, looking where we're going and seeing what's going on. I still fly on occasion when it's necessary, but it takes a day to shake off what now feels like a near death experience.

Ein posted:

The whole thing really put the fear in me and it turned me from a VERY frequent flyer to someone that now chooses to ride a train for 12-18 hours instead of getting on another of those flying death machines. When I'm forced to fly I have to hit the Xanax pretty hard and booze it up before I even set a foot on the drat thing and it still makes it a sweaty white knuckle experience.

quote:

Excluding acts of suicide and terrorism, commercial aviation was the safest mode of travel in the United States, with 0.07 fatalities per billion passenger miles...

Gromit posted:

I always figured trains were the safest, but wanted to see what the fatality figures were like for different modes of transport.

IndianaZoidberg posted:

I will have to try and find some reference but I think as far as miles traveled over a year, elevators are the safest form of transport.

So clearly we just need elevators that cross the entire world.

Leperflesh posted:

Stepping into your shower is way more dangerous than stepping onto a plane.

Gromit posted:

I always figured trains were the safest, but wanted to see what the fatality figures were like for different modes of transport just to see how much safer. According to this site, their summary states:


They list railways as killing 0.43 per billion passenger miles. However, they rightly point out that because take-off and landing on flights is where the most trouble happens, the number of miles shouldn't really factor into it and when you even it out flights are (presumably) worse. Also, most deaths related to trains are not of passengers, so avoid going near one unless you're in it.
I don't think I'm going to convince you to get back onto planes as I doubt anyone has overcome a fear through statistics. But stay the hell away from cars on the highway - those things are a real deathtrap!

Those numbers don't bother me though. As a middle-aged Westerner I know that heart disease will get me soon enough.

chitoryu12 posted:

Trains are likely the safest because they run on rails (so they can't really make wrong turns and it's a lot harder to push them "off-course") and they're so much larger than most things that they'll collide with except for other trains. On the other hand, planes are liable to burst into flames if you stare at the fuel tanks enough.

uPen posted:

Planes are much safer than trains. Not being on the ground where you can run into things does wonders for not running into things and killing everyone.

The Nards Pan posted:

Live under excavators - got it! #lifehack

Captain Cool posted:

Trabisnikof posted:

No see, the steel is holding everything up and thus they're 100% safe

Leperflesh posted:

Stepping into your shower is way more dangerous than stepping onto a plane.

Captain Cool posted:

Carbon dioxide posted:

This is probably safe and all, but I wouldn't want to be close to a literal poo poo-spewing machine.

"Manure agitator"

Carbon dioxide posted:

This is probably safe and all, but I wouldn't want to be close to a literal poo poo-spewing machine.

"Manure agitator"

Carbon dioxide posted:

This is probably safe and all, but I wouldn't want to be close to a literal poo poo-spewing machine.

"Manure agitator"

Dienes posted:

I see wheels but no seat. Please tell me no one rides these things.

Dienes posted:

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

It's ok it looks like they have hard hats on.

Carbon dioxide posted:

This is probably safe and all, but I wouldn't want to be close to a literal poo poo-spewing machine.

"Manure agitator"

Dienes posted:

I see wheels but no seat. Please tell me no one rides these things.

quote:

The wet-dry control system is similar to remote control hobby vehicles. The operator sits a comfortable distance away, up wind from the lagoon, and radios his driving inputs to the on-board computer, which turns the driving signals into instructions for the four hydraulic motors.

Once the Crawler is floating in the slurry, the same kind of driving inputs radioed to the on-board computer are turned into instructions for the seven agitator nozzles.

“The Crawler is designed for those big lagoons, five to 10 acres,” Taylor said. “Those are the in-ground dugouts that are more common in the States where the manure regulations are looser.”

Three-Phase posted:

So if the two guys are 300 pounds total and the scaffold is 200 pounds...
Sum of moments and forces equal zero...

Leperflesh posted:

Stepping into your shower is way more dangerous than stepping onto a plane.