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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Rorus Raz posted:

7
OH gently caress IT'S VAN PELT
They shoulda ditched that old English stereotype on the right and replaced it with that one girl.

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there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Everytime Sam Elliot2 shows up I hear that old 'and twins' jingle from Coors Light. Must be something with the flowing locks.

Anyway since we're talking about class and abortion, here's something to bring them all together. Don Burdett runs a blog that my relatives on facebook like, and he draws cartoons to go along with his posts.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Samurai Sanders posted:

They shoulda ditched that old English stereotype on the right and replaced it with that one girl.

19th century big game hunting actually took some effort though.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Fojar38 posted:

19th century big game hunting actually took some effort though.
Also, that's not the first cartoon that has portrayed the hunter with a crossbow. Is that what the dentist guy was using?

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Samurai Sanders posted:

Also, that's not the first cartoon that has portrayed the hunter with a crossbow. Is that what the dentist guy was using?

He shot it with a cross bow, didn't kill it, stalked it for another forty minutes or so, and finished it off with a rifle.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

4channing starts early. Parents: know the warning signs.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

abort ABORT

Sardine Wit
Sep 3, 2004

Calaveron posted:

Muir making a still-lactating woman works as a stripper skeeves the hell out of me

Wait till Skye accidentally serves her breast milk to Sam Elliott in a White Russian as Muir is obviously winding up to in this current storyline.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Rorus Raz posted:

7
OH gently caress IT'S VAN PELT

A Starcraft cartoon

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

there wolf posted:

He shot it with a cross bow, didn't kill it, stalked it for another forty minutes or so, and finished it off with a rifle.
Well, I guess he did have to get $50,000 worth of slow death pleasure out of it...

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

We've seen a lot of "fetus as six-year-old" cartoons in this thread, but this is the first time I've seen one based on a tattoo/mudflap-style "sexy lady" form and pose. :froggonk:

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
I can't believe the term "politically correct" is still a thing. The early 90s ended a long time ago.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Samurai Sanders posted:

I can't believe the term "politically correct" is still a thing. The early 90s ended a long time ago.

Some people are still angry they can no longer say friend of the family in public.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ah, I see Tinsley has gotten wind of the Seinfeld whining (at least two weeks ago).

toanoradian
May 31, 2011


The happiest waffligator

I dont know posted:

Some people are still angry they can no longer say friend of the family in public.

People say "political correctness gone mad!" when they perceive an overreach in censorship (be it from government or otherwise), but I've never actually seen a moderate and appropriate usage of political correctness.

Is the term 'political correctness' always used negatively?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

toanoradian posted:

Is the term 'political correctness' always used negatively?

I've seen it used in office/corporate contexts as synonymous with "euphemism"

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

toanoradian posted:

People say "political correctness gone mad!" when they perceive an overreach in censorship (be it from government or otherwise), but I've never actually seen a moderate and appropriate usage of political correctness.

Is the term 'political correctness' always used negatively?

I'm not sure, but I have a feeling it started as a genuine term for people who try not to be offensive but was almost immediately hijacked by shitheads who want an excuse to be dicks to everyone.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

I dont know posted:

Some people are still angry they can no longer say friend of the family in public.

And yet, this post.

Deep Hurting
Jan 19, 2006

What is with that big white spot on the duck's head in the last panel? Did he just copy-paste the coloring on his head from panel five and then forget to fill in the larger area occupied by the eyes?

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Deep Hurting posted:

What is with that big white spot on the duck's head in the last panel? Did he just copy-paste the coloring on his head from panel five and then forget to fill in the larger area occupied by the eyes?
It's Tinsley: he isn't good around colors.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
It's a well-known fact that ducks have white eyelids

Deep Hurting
Jan 19, 2006

Rorus Raz posted:

It's Tinsley: he isn't good around colors.

KER-WHITE!

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Why is the podium saying it? Or is the podium just thinking it because it's not a series of circles coming from the thought bubble? Why do podiums thinklskdfldkjl;....*drip* *drip* *drip*

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

HootTheOwl posted:

And yet, this post.
The only appropriate time to say the word is when actually discussing the word, I'd argue.

FicusArt
Dec 27, 2014

Why would I draw dudes when I could be drawing literally anything else?

JT Jag posted:

The only appropriate time to say the word is when actually discussing the word, I'd argue.

Perhaps, there is also when singing along with music that uses it. The issue is that some people relish those moments, as if they've been waiting for the smallest excuse that they can take.

The only unambiguously appropriate time to say the n-word is when you're black. Lucky for the rest of us, "The n-word" has become such a recognizable euphemism, that even when talking about the n-word, we don't need to actually use the word.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Rorus Raz posted:

I have talked with fundamentalist Christians about real extreme poo poo like forbidding abortion even in the event of rape. Their logic is "the child shouldn't be punished for the sins of the father."

Which is pretty loving weird since their whole religion is precipitated upon our race being punished for something our forebear did.

I gotta say, I understand this is my weird soapbox to stand on and all, but I always hated "no abortions except in cases of incest or rape." I have a friend who was born of rape and his mother was born of incest. Is he less worthy of existing than other people? I have a real problem with that logic. If abortion is wrong because that's a human life, whether it was created by rape or incest shouldn't matter; a human life is a human life is a human life.

EDIT: Please don't argue with me about abortion on its own; I don't think the unborn are a human life in any case, my point is merely that a human life born of rape or incest shouldn't be considered less valuable than one born otherwise.

chairface fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Aug 2, 2015

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe
So Rall my embellish facts and generally be full of poo poo, but it sounds like at least some part of the tape may have revealed proof he was handcuffed at one point.

http://anewdomain.net/2015/08/01/ted-rall-lapd-la-firing-scandal-rall-vindicated-lapd-under-fire-exclusive/

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

FicusArt posted:

Perhaps, there is also when singing along with music that uses it. The issue is that some people relish those moments, as if they've been waiting for the smallest excuse that they can take.

The only unambiguously appropriate time to say the n-word is when you're black. Lucky for the rest of us, "The n-word" has become such a recognizable euphemism, that even when talking about the n-word, we don't need to actually use the word.
I mentioned the early 90s because I think that was the last time it was acceptable to be confused about the contexts it was ok or not to say friend of the family.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

chairface posted:

I gotta say, I understand this is my weird soapbox to stand on and all, but I always hated "no abortions except in cases of incest or rape." I have a friend who was born of rape and his mother was born of incest. Is he less worthy of existing than other people? I have a real problem with that logic. If abortion is wrong because that's a human life, whether it was created by rape or incest shouldn't matter; a human life is a human life is a human life.

EDIT: Please don't argue with me about abortion on its own; I don't think that's a human life in any case, my point is merely that a human life born of rape or incest shouldn't be considered less valuable than one born otherwise.

You're not wrong. A pro-choice stance on the matter would be that abortion should be legal regardless of the circumstances leading up to the conception.

That the pro-life stance is that abortion should be legal only in cases of rape and incest stems from how in such scenarios the woman did not choose to engage in sexual activity of her own volition.

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

zeroprime posted:

So Rall my embellish facts and generally be full of poo poo, but it sounds like at least some part of the tape may have revealed proof he was handcuffed at one point.

http://anewdomain.net/2015/08/01/ted-rall-lapd-la-firing-scandal-rall-vindicated-lapd-under-fire-exclusive/

I'm genuinely interested in seeing how this will go down, with that coming to light.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

gradenko_2000 posted:

You're not wrong. A pro-choice stance on the matter would be that abortion should be legal regardless of the circumstances leading up to the conception.

That the pro-life stance is that abortion should be legal only in cases of rape and incest stems from how in such scenarios the woman did not choose to engage in sexual activity of her own volition.

I guess that's my point. I'm personally pro-choice but the single defensible basis on which I could respect a person saying they were pro-life is if they viewed all the unborn as unambiguously being human lives, and in that case I cannot respect a distinction on the basis of rape/incest. A human life born of rape/incest is still a human life and has as much a right to exist as you or I, assuming an innate right to be be born, which I personally do not assume.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

You make a good point, but I think the reason why "no abortions ever" is seen as more heinous because it's not even letting the woman have control over her body when she's the victim of a horrendous crime.

One could argue that exceptions for rape and incest makes it obvious that the anti-abortion movement is about punishing women for having sex. I still think no exceptions is still pretty lovely, not to devalue the baby's life, but because the pregnancy is a reminder of one of the worst times of a person's life.

It's really a moot point in the end, because you're just arguing which of two lovely position is worse. I don't think your reasoning is all that weird though.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Rorus Raz posted:

You make a good point, but I think the reason why "no abortions ever" is seen as more heinous because it's not even letting the woman have control over her body when she's the victim of a horrendous crime.

One could argue that exceptions for rape and incest makes it obvious that the anti-abortion movement is about punishing women for having sex. I still think no exceptions is still pretty lovely, not to devalue the baby's life, but because the pregnancy is a reminder of one of the worst times of a person's life.

It's really a moot point in the end, because you're just arguing which of two lovely position is worse. I don't think your reasoning is all that weird though.

Oh I see why they'd want to be wishy washy or weasely about it. But if #1 abortion is wrong because the unborn are human lives (again, I do not personally believe this) then #2 human lives are human lives are human lives, and it shouldn't matter if the unborn human lives were created via rape or incest. If that lump of cells is a human life, it's a human life regardless of if its grandpa is also its daddy or whatever.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010

Rorus Raz posted:

1

2
Tombstones

:drat:

...

... :smith:

A list of things that police are not authorized to arrest for-- nor justify cold-blooded murder-- two tombstones for people exercising their right to self defense (by fleeing a violent criminal). I've said it ad nauseum but Eric did nothing to deserve being murdered. Ouch.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

chairface posted:

I guess that's my point. I'm personally pro-choice but the single defensible basis on which I could respect a person saying they were pro-life is if they viewed all the unborn as unambiguously being human lives, and in that case I cannot respect a distinction on the basis of rape/incest. A human life born of rape/incest is still a human life and has as much a right to exist as you or I, assuming an innate right to be be born, which I personally do not assume.

This is actually how I feel about abortion but I never bother to tell anyone in real life because its pointless. Its not like my view of life can change the reality of why people get abortions. So many people use abortion as an excuse to punish women for having sex that expressing any kind of opposition to it will get you lumped in with them. There's no reason to fight abortion even if you believe fetuses are alive. You'd be better off tackling all the myriad of issues that can lead to people pursuing abortion in the first place.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

toanoradian posted:

People say "political correctness gone mad!" when they perceive an overreach in censorship (be it from government or otherwise), but I've never actually seen a moderate and appropriate usage of political correctness.

Is the term 'political correctness' always used negatively?

Yes, because it's pretty much always been a pejorative. Politically correct was used by communists to call out people who were overly devoted to the party line to the detriment of ethics or common sense. Progressives in the US kept that sentiment but used it as a satirical self-critique, a way to mock over-serious elements of the movement or poke fun at the platonic liberal ideal. D'Souza picked it up at some point and either didn't get or deliberately ignored that it was a joke, redefining it as the liberal gestapo forcing multiculturalism down our throats. And now I am obligated to post some Politically Correct. Since I brought up self-satire here's one Huber did as an April Fools joke about what liberals see Republicans as-

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Who here missed JJ?





I wanted to add little context / "best of" quotes from the accompanying rants, but the pure concentrated JJ overwhelmed me.

Xander77 fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Aug 2, 2015

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

zeroprime posted:

So Rall my embellish facts and generally be full of poo poo, but it sounds like at least some part of the tape may have revealed proof he was handcuffed at one point.

http://anewdomain.net/2015/08/01/ted-rall-lapd-la-firing-scandal-rall-vindicated-lapd-under-fire-exclusive/

:rolleyes:

quote:

Will the Department of Justice revive its long-running investigation into LAPD civil rights abuses as a result of the Rall scandal?
Also the "take off his handcuffs" from the "enhanced" audio tape seems like a case of prompting, it's still pretty indistinct. It's easy to get people to hear something that only sounds vaguely close if you prompt them before hand, it sounds like the women is having a separate conversation with a man whose voice can't be made out most of the time.

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Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

chairface posted:

Oh I see why they'd want to be wishy washy or weasely about it. But if #1 abortion is wrong because the unborn are human lives (again, I do not personally believe this) then #2 human lives are human lives are human lives, and it shouldn't matter if the unborn human lives were created via rape or incest. If that lump of cells is a human life, it's a human life regardless of if its grandpa is also its daddy or whatever.

The "pro-life" side is definitely aware of this problem, they're just thinking in the long term. They don't like making these compromises, but they're trying to adjust the law gradually so that they can eventually outlaw it in every circumstance. These are smart, dedicated, and cruel people who will stop at nothing to get each blastocyst out into America.

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