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Butt Wizard posted:Do you guys seriously think Clare Curran just 'forgot to reference' sections of the Labour Future of Work copy? Reminder: It's Clare Curran. No one believes that.
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I don't believe it was Clare Curran who "forgot" to reference
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Aug 2, 2015 09:54
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lmao some schoolgirl is saying John Key should apologise because he said people would get bored of more than a week of Maori Language Week. Has she loving seen how boring NZ Music Month is?
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Aug 2, 2015 11:07
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puchu posted:lmao some schoolgirl is saying John Key should apologise because he said people would get bored of more than a week of Maori Language Week. Has she loving seen how boring NZ Music Month is? That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE
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Aug 2, 2015 11:13
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Kia kaha, mate.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE Bring back Dei Hamo in this poster's opinion
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Aug 2, 2015 11:15
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE You mean 99% of the 10% of music being created in NZ that is vying for commercial play in the US?
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Aug 2, 2015 11:18
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE Whatever happened to Scribe, anyway?
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Aug 2, 2015 11:23
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He stood up. RIP
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE There's actually some cool stuff that is recognised and appreciated by overseas people, like our weirdo noise scene or our metal scene for example, but basically none of that stuff gets any interest from whoever is in charge of NZ music month, and so people in NZ don't really know about it.
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Aug 2, 2015 12:06
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:That's because NZ music is 99% uninspired "Oh god i need to break into the US market" trash these days MATE Looks like SOMEONE'S forgotten their roots 
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Aug 2, 2015 12:30
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/70760473/Police-shoot-kill-armed-man-in-Auckland-parkquote:Police were called to the park at 7.23pm and on arrival the man told officers he was armed. Armed officers were called and attempts to negotiate with the man were unsuccesful. The man was fatally shot after indicating he was about to use a firearm. Note the wording, NZ police likely just killed an unarmed man in central Auckland.
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Aug 2, 2015 12:37
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quote:Police have launched a homicide investigation after a man known to the police was shot dead by an officer on Sunday night. The man's body remained at the park which was closed to the public until a scene examination took place on Monday.
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Aug 2, 2015 13:22
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NZAmoeba posted:http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/70760473/Police-shoot-kill-armed-man-in-Auckland-park Cool, we're getting to the "murdering minorities" part of the Americanization faster than expected.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Cool, we're getting to the "murdering minorities" part of the Americanization faster than expected. Just updated who it was. A 21 yrold Slovakian with prior for robbery.
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Aug 2, 2015 21:00
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loving Slovaks ruining New Zealand! We need to build a wall!
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My girlfriend (who spent 10 years in England and considers herself mostly English) said that she didn't think that the Maori culture should be "forced" on anyone, or that money should be spent on it. This is about a day after we had a discussion about the British Royalty, who she thinks should be kept because of "heritage" and "tradition". She doesn't quite see the irony there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of actual New Zealanders who share similar views because it's not *their* culture.
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Binkenstein posted:My girlfriend (who spent 10 years in England and considers herself mostly English) said that she didn't think that the Maori culture should be "forced" on anyone, or that money should be spent on it. This is about a day after we had a discussion about the British Royalty, who she thinks should be kept because of "heritage" and "tradition". She doesn't quite see the irony there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of actual New Zealanders who share similar views because it's not *their* culture. How many BNP-lite spinoff group pages does she like on Facebook?
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Aug 2, 2015 22:58
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Binkenstein posted:My girlfriend (who spent 10 years in England and considers herself mostly English) said that she didn't think that the Maori culture should be "forced" on anyone, or that money should be spent on it. This is about a day after we had a discussion about the British Royalty, who she thinks should be kept because of "heritage" and "tradition". She doesn't quite see the irony there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of actual New Zealanders who share similar views because it's not *their* culture. sever
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Aug 2, 2015 23:01
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have some compassion, it must be hard to live with the mind of 13 year old forever
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Binkenstein posted:My girlfriend (who spent 10 years in England and considers herself mostly English) said that she didn't think that the Maori culture should be "forced" on anyone, or that money should be spent on it. This is about a day after we had a discussion about the British Royalty, who she thinks should be kept because of "heritage" and "tradition". She doesn't quite see the irony there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of actual New Zealanders who share similar views because it's not *their* culture. wehewehe
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Binkenstein posted:My girlfriend (who spent 10 years in England and considers herself mostly English) said that she didn't think that the Maori culture should be "forced" on anyone, or that money should be spent on it. This is about a day after we had a discussion about the British Royalty, who she thinks should be kept because of "heritage" and "tradition". She doesn't quite see the irony there, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a lot of actual New Zealanders who share similar views because it's not *their* culture.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:18
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Yep. Should be as simple as that, really. This is bizarre. The article about John Key upsetting the school girl ends with a spiel about dog laws... John Key rejects claims he labelled the idea of a Maori language month 'boring' http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11491113 quote:John Key rejects claims he labelled the idea of a Maori language month 'boring' What. truther fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 2, 2015 |
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Aug 2, 2015 23:29
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She's (mostly) British and their culture is one of oppressing and ignoring other people's culture, don't culture shame.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:31
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It's baffling that the idea of someone else expressing their culture is FORCING THEIR CULTURE ON US. It's a strange form of insecurity I don't completely understand. There was an article I read a few months ago, not sure how to look for it now, but it was on the topic of immigrant culture. A Chinese person living in NZ will know that there will always be a China where Chinese culture is practised, same for most other migrants. But for Maori, the only place their culture can exist is in NZ. If it ceases to be expressed here, it goes extinct everywhere. This is why NZ is still technically a bi-cultrual society, and why Maori culture has special significance.
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Aug 2, 2015 23:59
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:their culture is one of oppressing and ignoring other people's culture That doesn't exactly narrow it down, lad. Like, at all.
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Aug 3, 2015 00:12
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WarpedNaba posted:That doesn't exactly narrow it down, lad. Like, at all. They did it with funny hats, and tea.
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Aug 3, 2015 00:14
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:They did it with funny hats, and tea. Before or after the 14th century? Because if it's before, that's basically the entire Asian plateau.
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NZAmoeba posted:It's baffling that the idea of someone else expressing their culture is FORCING THEIR CULTURE ON US. It's a strange form of insecurity I don't completely understand. It's called racism  To expand: They are a different colour to me and therefore their culture is strange and bad and icky. No oval office ever sees an Italian restaurant or a Dutch cheese shop opening and cries about culture. It's just straight racism. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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NZAmoeba posted:But for Maori, the only place their culture can exist is in NZ. If it ceases to be expressed here, it goes extinct everywhere. This is why NZ is still technically a bi-cultrual society, and why Maori culture has special significance. Maori peeps have been exporting themselves since ages ago 
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Slavvy posted:It's called racism I think you'll find racism against the Dutch was alive and well in NZ when large numbers of them were emigrating here after world war two. Of course, the second generation of Dutch didn't face the same discrimination as they spoke English in a Kiwi accent* and couldn't be separated by the colour of their skin. *talking about tomorrow night
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Aug 3, 2015 05:56
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Just on the general appreciative note, I don't know many Maori words or that many concepts off hand but there are a bunch I really dig and occasionally bring out TAIHOA! to basically mean SLOW DOWN - with the idea someone is being rash and moving too quickly for their boots -I find particularly stirring. I have remarked upon seeing a woman doing an impressive feat that she is a Wahine Toa and I find this phrase both sexy and strong and is fitting for a strong woman and I received a positive response from this The concept of mana also really embodies a particular kind of respect that isn't quite the same as 'respect' and I like it I also occasionally, when I am hungry, think "I need to feel my puku" and rubbing my belly conjures this word to my conciousness Enjoy the maori language everyone, in whatever goon way possible :>
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Aug 3, 2015 06:45
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Jacobin posted:Just on the general appreciative note, are you drunk mate
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A human heart posted:are you drunk mate Just a bit. Seriously though, New Zealands biculturalism is quite great, when its allowed to be. E: by this I mean, I love hearing Maori words and phrases casually sprinkled in/absorbed by people who just frankly aren't culturally Maori at all, and having it generally accepted and rolled with. Then there are of course people who try and shoot it down and RARRRr etc. etc. but not in my circles 
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Aug 3, 2015 06:48
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ledge posted:I think you'll find racism against the Dutch was alive and well in NZ when large numbers of them were emigrating here after world war two. How can you be racist against white people? Like, I realise all dutchmen are raving lunatics at best and gigantic cunts at worst (south africans are like a diluted version) but they're white at the end of the day. I'd call it nationalism/xenophobia more than racism.
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Aug 3, 2015 07:25
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Slavvy posted:How can you be racist against white people? Haha is this real? Heard of this place called Europe? There's is and was a lot of racism against "white" people there. Pro tip: the Irish weren't "White" until very recently.
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Aug 3, 2015 07:30
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Well yeah but it's predicated on knowing where they're from, whereas non-whites are visually obvious.
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Aug 3, 2015 07:32
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Slavvy posted:Well yeah but it's predicated on knowing where they're from, whereas non-whites are visually obvious. Oh really?  The English had racism down to a fine art my friend.
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Ok, I'll concede that at some point some people were racist against white people. But I don't believe that's an issue in NZ today that even approaches the scale and breadth of racism against non-whites, which was my original point in saying that people crywanking about culture being forced on them are just raging racists.
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