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V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER
OK this has me convinced

quote:

PI have filed a couple of trademarks that don't correspond to current games. Two of them, Stellaris (filed 30th of June 2015), and Coriolis, fits a space game. Coriolis is a book set in space published by PI. It's set in the same world as a table-top RPG developed by people linked to PI. They describe the world like this: "The RPG is set in a world of Byzantine intrigue, gigantic spaceships and secret remains of earlier civilizations".

My bet is that the game will be called Stellaris, set in the Coriolis universe. Many have doubted PDS's capability to creatively come up with a setting for a non-historically game. Here, through an IP they're already involved with, they have their setting.

There's also never been any trademarks that might fit a classical antiquity Augustus game.

A counter-point to the trademark lead is that it was filed too close to announce. However, that was true for Cities: Skylines as well. That trademark was filed just prior to announce at Gamescom last year.

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RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
OK guys I'm willing to accept that this could be better than another Rome game so don't let me down.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
So... it's basically a knockoff empire of the fading suns universe?

...If it is, it is going to be so great.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

fermun posted:

The expansions had an absolutely massive effect on it, and it's a whole lot better, but it is still a deeply flawed game. HOI3 in its current state is primarily handing 90% of your forces off to AI control, then you create and hold pockets while the AI digests them, or on the defense you handle your 10% of elite forces as a firesquad going to wherever a critical defense is. It's flawed for smaller nations who can't support the sort of army required to have a unit in every province plus a few to back them up. You can absolutely play it and have fun, but it's flawed enough that it's a game worth sinking dozens of hours into instead of EU4's hundreds of hours of fun replayability.

It's perfectly fine to control your army manually, "I put it on automatic so it's poo poo and boring" is a silly point to make.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Larry Parrish posted:

The problem is the Aurora isn't a game so much as a data set generator

So is the Football Manager series and yet it's the best goddamn game out there.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mans posted:

So is the Football Manager series and yet it's the best goddamn game out there.

:stonkhat:

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Mans posted:

So is the Football Manager series and yet it's the best goddamn game out there.

Probably not the thread to ask this but is FM2015 worth picking up? I mean it looks decent but all the reviews are saying how horrible the game is and how you should play the previous entry/skip it.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






SkySteak posted:

Probably not the thread to ask this but is FM2015 worth picking up? I mean it looks decent but all the reviews are saying how horrible the game is and how you should play the previous entry/skip it.
You get those complaints every year. I think that if you love football and you've never played an FM game before (or at least haven't played one for a good while) then its a good idea to pick it up.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



SkySteak posted:

Probably not the thread to ask this but is FM2015 worth picking up? I mean it looks decent but all the reviews are saying how horrible the game is and how you should play the previous entry/skip it.

2016 will be coming out in like a month.

SkySteak
Sep 9, 2010

Drone posted:

2016 will be coming out in like a month.

Ah so it would be better to hold off until then, or is the price of 2015 good enough to have a go at now? I mean I tried a bit of 2014 and I didn't find it completely overwhelming.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Actually yeah they're right, just wait for FM16. I forgot it was that close to release. £10 is a decent price, but the FM games always have some silly discount somewhere like a month or so after release.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the problem with FM16 is that it might be released next month but it will only be playable around february

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010

Then you have a responsibility that no man has ever faced. You have your fear which could become reality, and you have Godzilla, which is reality.


fermun posted:

The expansions had an absolutely massive effect on it, and it's a whole lot better, but it is still a deeply flawed game. HOI3 in its current state is primarily handing 90% of your forces off to AI control, then you create and hold pockets while the AI digests them, or on the defense you handle your 10% of elite forces as a firesquad going to wherever a critical defense is. It's flawed for smaller nations who can't support the sort of army required to have a unit in every province plus a few to back them up. You can absolutely play it and have fun, but it's flawed enough that it's a game worth sinking dozens of hours into instead of EU4's hundreds of hours of fun replayability.


Heh. Yeah. Hundreds. Just hundreds. :smith:

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009
Thousands are just really big hundreds.

OhGreatAGinger
Oct 10, 2012
Think if the number 100 was a person, then someone walks up to 100 and says the words "one hundred!". And 100 goes "Wow, that's a big number!"

That's 1000.


You're welcome.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

V for Vegas posted:

OK this has me convinced

quote:

The RPG is set in a world of Byzantine intrigue, gigantic spaceships and secret remains of earlier civilizations

quote:

a world of Byzantine intrigue

quote:

Byzantine intrigue

quote:

Byzantine

Rome 2 confirmed.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



omg it's literally Rome 2.

Like, the second Rome.

RestRoomLiterature-
Jun 3, 2008

staying regular
If they do go away from historical settings for this game I wonder how long until I can patch in Great Serbia?

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
The Seventh Rome, Alpha Centauri Bb

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
The Seven solar systems of Rome.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

RestRoomLiterature- posted:

If they do go away from historical settings for this game I wonder how long until I can patch in Great Serbia?

Great Serbia and Grand Old Bulgaria transcend the frabric of space and time.

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands
To tide me over until then, does anyone know of any decent space strategy games with the Dune-like feel of feudal politics and interstellar warfare? Emperor of the Fading Suns is the obvious answer, but it's bloody heartbreaking to play it and see all the squandered potential.

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib
Russia is such a beast in Vicky 2 if you just get over the first hump. I've dismantled every continental European power at least once and gotten most of the non-great powers in Europe in my SoI. Still working on getting Greece and Italy in my sphere though (Greece left after a fascist rebellion). Only GB is still a credible competitor to the Russian monster.

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker

Star posted:

Russia is such a beast in Vicky 2 if you just get over the first hump. I've dismantled every continental European power at least once and gotten most of the non-great powers in Europe in my SoI. Still working on getting Greece and Italy in my sphere though (Greece left after a fascist rebellion). Only GB is still a credible competitor to the Russian monster.



Your population is only 38 million? What did you do?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Don't you usually get a CB when fascist/communist rebellions happen and they nationalize your poo poo? I made Poland into my puppet as socialist Germany that way, at least I think.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Athas posted:

Your population is only 38 million? What did you do?

In V2, one unit of population in a POP represents an able-bodied working age male. The actual population of a country is reckoned by Paradox to be four times the "population" that the game tracks.

Pakled fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Aug 2, 2015

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Pakled posted:

In V2, one unit of population in a POP represents an able-bodied working age male. The actual population of a country is reckoned by Paradox to be four times the "population" that the game tracks.

You can actually mouse over the population to see the full number.

Also I don't THINK it counts puppeted nations towards your own population, so Turkey/Scandanavia/The Balkans there wouldn't be contributing towards that number.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Star posted:

Russia is such a beast in Vicky 2 if you just get over the first hump. I've dismantled every continental European power at least once and gotten most of the non-great powers in Europe in my SoI. Still working on getting Greece and Italy in my sphere though (Greece left after a fascist rebellion). Only GB is still a credible competitor to the Russian monster.



And GB is still a close second.

God, that's pretty much my most hated thing about Vicky. Not any UI concerns or lack of information or anything like that, it's that GB drives the game and is this unassailable juggernaut literally from the get go. I ought to try a Prussia or France game where I suicide into a fat-infamy war from the onset to try to destroy them just to see what happens.

grancheater
May 1, 2013

Wine'em, dine'em, 69'em
A good Prussia can get pretty far



(This is pre-HoD save loaded in HoD though, they got nerfed a little by tech-locking some CBs)

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Gamerofthegame posted:

And GB is still a close second.

God, that's pretty much my most hated thing about Vicky. Not any UI concerns or lack of information or anything like that, it's that GB drives the game and is this unassailable juggernaut literally from the get go. I ought to try a Prussia or France game where I suicide into a fat-infamy war from the onset to try to destroy them just to see what happens.

That's good, it means the economic components are working and they give a high enough score to be important. Britain had lots of factories and factory workers, the only way you should be able to stop her being powerful is winning the naval war and blockading her for a decade to starve her industries.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
I've always wanted to see a successful Luxembourg to Franco-German Union but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to pull off.

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

Nah, I've done it before. It's similar to a good Danzig-Poland playthrough, basically revolving around allying around a good punching bag(France) and taking them to war at opportune times to get yourself some land.

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Gamerofthegame posted:

And GB is still a close second.

God, that's pretty much my most hated thing about Vicky. Not any UI concerns or lack of information or anything like that, it's that GB drives the game and is this unassailable juggernaut literally from the get go. I ought to try a Prussia or France game where I suicide into a fat-infamy war from the onset to try to destroy them just to see what happens.

Kill their fleet with ironclads before they modernize it.
And even later on, you can easily land 300+ brigades on their island and the AI can't do poo poo to you because it can't handle artillery.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

GrossMurpel posted:

Kill their fleet with ironclads before they modernize it.
And even later on, you can easily land 300+ brigades on their island and the AI can't do poo poo to you because it can't handle artillery.

The best thing about V2 is how going on a mass dreadnought building programme boosts your economy both through stimulating internal demand but also by making people want to buy your country's stuff more.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The worst part though is how if you forget to stockpile stuff like steel and lumber and try to build railroads they just sit unstarted for years sometimes because the trade AI is retarded

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Gamerofthegame posted:

God, that's pretty much my most hated thing about Vicky. Not any UI concerns or lack of information or anything like that, it's that GB drives the game and is this unassailable juggernaut literally from the get go. I ought to try a Prussia or France game where I suicide into a fat-infamy war from the onset to try to destroy them just to see what happens.

100% historically accurate :colbert:

If you want a weak GB the game probably starts fifty years too late. Or too early.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe
The main weakness of GB is that their land is so spread out that their military is rated really highly, but their actual core territory is very small and so if you can actually get troops on to the British isles you can rack up a TON of warscore against them with very little resistance.

Of course it's an entirely different story getting past their navy to do that but as others have mentioned, if you can beat them to ironclads or dreadnaughts you can sweep them up pretty easily since the AI usually doesn't rush to build that stuff (which is kind of ironic given that when the dreadnaught was invented in real life everybody absolutely DID rush to build as many as possible and that was one of the major tensions leading to WW1).

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

Larry Parrish posted:

The worst part though is how if you forget to stockpile stuff like steel and lumber and try to build railroads they just sit unstarted for years sometimes because the trade AI is retarded

That's not the trade AI, that's everyone else buying it before you can.

Pump it up! Do it!
Oct 3, 2012
New teaser


Space game? I have tried a few but usually giving up after a few hours just because they haven't been much fun, but made by Paradox it could be amazing.

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Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
That is clearly a Nubian, Rome 2 confirmed.

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