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PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

Valeyard posted:

you cant seriously complain about "the graphics" on a 200 dollar acer poo poo pie special

sorry, i mean to complain about it's entire existence

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Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge
lol marketed as a low storage :yayclod:book when onedrive on windows 10 can't even sync files & folders without them also existing locally on the harddrive

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

Shaggar posted:

PowerPC has always been complete garbage and the only people who ever though otherwise were stupid fuckers who owned macs or other bad computers.

altivec was a really nice simd extension, it took intel a few iterations of sse to catch up

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

PleasureKevin posted:

early xbox 360 games as well as the official xbox magazine were made on power PC macs


the bigger, more expensive model has less battery life

also the graphics are 300-600 mhz

yeah the 360 was trash

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

rjmccall posted:

altivec was a really nice simd extension, it took intel a few iterations of sse to catch up

no it didn't. intel crushed ppc to death before ppc ever gained significant adoption

awesome-express
Dec 30, 2008

I'm waiting for the $99 poopbook


clod first

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Shaggar posted:

no it didn't. intel crushed ppc to death before ppc ever gained significant adoption

Yeah altivec was in response to sse, but sse2 blew it out of the water. G3 procs were fast, but their fpu perf was worse than K6 at the time. G4 was much better in that respect.

And the 360 melting was a problem because the ppc chipset was so hot at the time.

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Phoenixan posted:

lol marketed as a low storage :yayclod:book when onedrive on windows 10 can't even sync files & folders without them also existing locally on the harddrive
http://www.winbeta.org/news/onedrive-placeholders-are-gone-windows-10-heres-how-get-them-back

lol

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Wait, mapping a network drive is the solution? :downsgun:

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge
cloud first

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

theultimo posted:

And the 360 melting was a problem because the ppc chipset was so hot at the time.

sort of. the main problem was that they switched to lead-free solder late in development to meet new eu regulations at the time and didn't take into consideration the fact that leaded and lead-free solder have different tensile properties.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

The_Franz posted:

sort of. the main problem was that they switched to lead-free solder late in development to meet new eu regulations at the time and didn't take into consideration the fact that leaded and lead-free solder have different tensile properties.

tensile is stretching, right? i didn't think that would be significant for solder :confused:

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

theultimo posted:

And the 360 melting was a problem because the ppc chipset was so hot at the time.

The_Franz posted:

sort of. the main problem was that they switched to lead-free solder late in development to meet new eu regulations at the time and didn't take into consideration the fact that leaded and lead-free solder have different tensile properties.

wow, are we doing this again?

the problem was how they mounted the board.

med school head
Apr 17, 2012
yeah i thought the issue was the heatsink fan x-clamps that they used

Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

The_Franz posted:

sort of. the main problem was that they switched to lead-free solder late in development to meet new eu regulations at the time and didn't take into consideration the fact that leaded and lead-free solder have different tensile properties.

this is a stupid rumor

the engineers hosed up the design and blamed it on the solder

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

prefect posted:

tensile is stretching, right? i didn't think that would be significant for solder :confused:

when you have chips that run hot with a terrible heat-sink mounting system that puts a lot of stress on everything using solder that's a bit more brittle can make a huge difference.

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

gargle chome posted:

yeah i thought the issue was the heatsink fan x-clamps that they used

That was one case yeah, gpu solder was another, and the fans being clogged on launch units.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
"Uncle At Nintendo" aka "Miyamotos RGB NES" spent some time working some place that did off-warranty 360 repairs. part of the problem was the semiconductor dies being off-center on the chip itself, coupled with the x-clamp mounting system. It would put differential pressure on the chip causing one side to pop off. part of their repair procedure was to stuff cut-up credit card bits underneath the heat sink to even out the pressure.

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

here's an illustration of what went wrong and the bottom shows the best fix people came up with



The_Franz posted:

when you have chips that run hot with a terrible heat-sink mounting system that puts a lot of stress on everything using solder that's a bit more brittle can make a huge difference.

but it's not the "main problem"

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


somebody should tell intel that celeron makes people think of celery, which isn't very fast.

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug
Welp apple users, welcome to windows exploits
https://blog.malwarebytes.org/mac/2015/08/dyld_print_to_file-exploit-found-in-the-wild/

pram
Jun 10, 2001

quote:

For those who don’t know, the sudoers file is a hidden Unix file

:shepface:

anyway rootless will solve this problem. thank you steve

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

there was another firmware exploit revealed this week too

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Dodoman posted:

there was another firmware exploit revealed this week too

And this lengthy breakdown on the reason why tpm is worth it
https://trmm.net/Thunderstrike_31c3

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



there is a security thread ultimo

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug
Yeah to get back on track Rollback only lasts 30 days, so decide quickly before you are hosed
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/211557-reminder-windows-10-rollback-option-is-only-available-for-30-days

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug
Oh and Windows Phone, get a font that has more support than just English

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

theultimo posted:

Yeah altivec was in response to sse, but sse2 blew it out of the water. G3 procs were fast, but their fpu perf was worse than K6 at the time. G4 was much better in that respect.

all i give a poo poo about is instruction set design :shrug:

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

Nullset posted:

If you paste "control /name Microsoft.Personalization /page pageWallpaper" into a command prompt or win+R, you get the old background selector and you can right click images and set them to a specific monitor.

Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
i downloaded http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 and now it says that it's installing windows 8.1

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

theultimo posted:

Yeah altivec was in response to sse, but sse2 blew it out of the water. G3 procs were fast, but their fpu perf was worse than K6 at the time. G4 was much better in that respect.

And the 360 melting was a problem because the ppc chipset was so hot at the time.

rrod was the gpu not cpu, which was on a seperate chipand had its own heatsink, problem was with non-lead solder which hadnt been properly applied rather than a proper "overheating" issue. it used a 3 core cell cpu without the whole slave/controller setup of the cell proper.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
http://i.imgur.com/FhXtBT3.webm

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

you can fix/protect against the rrod if ur willing and bale ot reball the gpu basically

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

rjmccall posted:

altivec was a really nice simd extension, it took intel a few iterations of sse to catch up

i haven't thought about altivec in years

hilariously enough AltiVec gets autocapitalized on iOS l

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

Stux posted:

rrod was the gpu not cpu, which was on a seperate chipand had its own heatsink, problem was with non-lead solder which hadnt been properly applied rather than a proper "overheating" issue. it used a 3 core cell cpu without the whole slave/controller setup of the cell proper.

you are wrong

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

yeah rrod wasn't just exclusively video card issues iirc. there was a bunch of fuckups on the hardware lol

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Last Chance posted:

yeah rrod wasn't just exclusively video card issues iirc. there was a bunch of fuckups on the hardware lol

rrod is a gernal error code but the main cause that lead to the hug e number of problems was down to wha ti mentioned.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

PleasureKevin posted:

you are wrong

nop

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

there ar ewhole companies built aorund 360 reballing lmao

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Stux posted:

rrod was the gpu not cpu,

Stux posted:

rrod is a gernal error code but
could stux be wrong, again, in the yospos microsoft thread, or is he only wrong half the time

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