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Eugene V. Dubstep: Oct 4, 2013; Can't post for 8 years!

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

It all started when a �self-taught engineer, extreme introvert, science-nerd, anime-lover, college dropout� wrote that she was tired of stereotypes.

Isis Wenger, a platform engineer in San Francisco, got talked into being one of a handful of colleagues featured in a hastily organized recruiting campaign for her company OneLogin, she wrote on Medium.

extremely triggered by the hyphenation of nouns in that quote

Medium remains trash.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:08

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# ? May 15, 2024 19:49

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

i bet you could get the state engineering board pissed off at "platform engineer"

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:09

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

http://sfist.com/2015/08/04/i_can_feel_it_coming_in_the_air_tonight_oh_lord.php?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:10

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

i don't mind people calling themselves software engineers when they're making meticulously-designed software that meets demanding specifications and they're staking their reputations and careers on it being robust and correct. avionics, medical stuff, that kind ofthing.

lol at someone who hacks together javascript web frontends being an "engineer" tho

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:18

Captain Cool: Oct 23, 2004; This is a song about messin' with people who've been messin' with you

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i bet you could get the state engineering board pissed off at "platform engineer"

i would have picked "self-taught engineer"

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:18

Eugene V. Dubstep: Oct 4, 2013; Can't post for 8 years!

Captain Cool posted:

i would have picked "self-taught engineer"

In that accomplished engineers, inventors, and scientists have existed before who were largely self-taught, I don't take issue with that. In her case, however, it's a bit like me claiming to be a self-taught writer because I post on Internet forums. And a self-taught art critic because I think people who like anime should be shot.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:32

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

Soricidus posted:

i don't mind people calling themselves software engineers when they're making meticulously-designed software that meets demanding specifications and they're staking their reputations and careers on it being robust and correct. avionics, medical stuff, that kind ofthing.

lol at someone who hacks together javascript web frontends being an "engineer" tho

this is on the employers not the employees. no one wants to employ 'programmers' or 'developers' when their competition are employing 'software engineers'. if companies didn't misuse the term so egregiously it wouldn't be a big deal

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:33

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

i mean don't hate the playa, hate the game

the talent deficit fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Aug 4, 2015

# ? Aug 4, 2015 21:33

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

Three weeks ago, Uber rallied 400 drivers to testify in an employee classification lawsuit that they wanted to stay contractors.

Now, some of them have changed their minds. After speaking with Lichten & Liss-Riordan, the law firm representing the plaintiffs in the suit, six Uber drivers out of the 400 who originally testified on behalf of Uber have decided to speak against the ride-hailing company. They submitted new court declarations saying they were misled about the difference between contractors and employees.

If Uber loses the driver classification lawsuit, it may have to reclassify its California drivers as employees, which would cost it hundreds of millions in payroll taxes a year, not to mention back pay and penalties. The company�s business model rides on the outcome.

The fact that several drivers Uber recruited to support it have turned on the company is a symbolic undermining, one that questions the legitimacy of Uber�s testimonial gathering tactics.

�Very little about the lawsuit filed on behalf of drivers was explained to me,� Eduardo Belloso, one of the drivers, said in his statement.

Each drivers� declaration ended with the same line:

�I was not informed that the case challenged our not receiving tips that passengers were told were included in the fare, nor was I told that, if the case was successful, there was a possibility of my being reimbursed for expenses such as a mileage reimbursement. I would like to have my expenses reimbursed should I be entitled to obtain them under the law.�

The statements don�t go as far as to say that the drivers want to be employees, however.

Lichten & Liss-Riordan claims they spoke with 50 drivers from Uber�s original testimony, and �most expressed interest in being reimbursed for their expenses by Uber.� The majority were afraid to do so officially in the court record for fear of losing their Uber app access.

In response to the filing, Uber submitted a document to the court defending its practices. �Plaintiffs� claim that �Uber obtained [driver] declarations under false pretenses� is baseless, unsupported by the handful of driver declarations Plaintiffs submitted, and rests solely on hearsay testimony from Plaintiffs� counsel�s paralegal.�

When asked for comment on the driver testimonial reversal, Uber told Re/code, �Four hundred drivers enthusiastically came forward to provide declarations about exactly how much they value the independence and flexibility of driving with Uber. These declarations demonstrate exactly what drivers have said repeatedly: That they prefer to have flexibility, control and be their own boss.�

# ? Aug 4, 2015 22:00

Syncopated: Oct 21, 2010

the talent deficit posted:

i mean don't hate the playa, hate the game

Hate the sin love the sinner

# ? Aug 4, 2015 22:29

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

i'm a data scientist

*rubs cheeto dust onto lab coat from amazon*

# ? Aug 4, 2015 22:41

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

i'm a data scientist

*rubs cheeto dust onto lab coat from amazon*

this one legitimately follows from logic behind "computer science" at least

# ? Aug 4, 2015 22:52

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

i'm a computer alchemist

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:28

FAT32 SHAMER: Aug 16, 2012

I am a computer wizard

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:28

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

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quote:

The quote is from Arize Nwosu, describing the genesis of his app �Blinkr,� which allows Uber drivers to communicate with each other.

One day, while driving for Uber, Nwosu realized Blinkr could be something more.

�Another driver pulled up and said �turn your app off [and] it�s going to start surging.� Lo and behold, I did and the app started surging. We made some good money that day,� he said with a laugh. �I realized the power of drivers working together ... our power can be realized if we can all communicate in real time. We would completely change the dynamic between Uber and the drivers.�

Inspiring stuff. Inspiring and outrageous.

If Nwosu�s story is true, it suggests Uber drivers are flagging each other down in the street to conspire to hack Uber�s surge pricing feature and artificially drive up prices. By agreeing to temporarily disappear from the network at an agreed time, the drivers are able to fool Uber�s demand detection algorithms into thinking there�s a drop in supply, or a surge in demand. The system compensates by implementing surge pricing, charging riders more in order to -- as the company always claims -- get more drivers on the road.

lol if drivers manage to do this, get ready for non-stop surges!

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:39

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

Tusen Takk posted:

I am a computer wizard

oh is that what posters at wizardchan call themselves?

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:41

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

quote:

The next time you hail an Uber, could grannie be the one to show up?

That's what Uber's hoping might happen as part of a new partnership it's striking with a subsidiary of AARP, formerly known as the American Association of Retired Persons, which is a politically powerful and particularly large senior citizen advocacy group.

Uber's appetite for more drivers is apparently voracious. In early June, the number of people who drive for the ride-sharing giant worldwide hit 1 million. So now the company is taking the road less traveled for more and more drivers.

In an announcement light on details, Uber said Thursday it will begin working with Life Reimagined, an AARP group that promotes economic and social opportunities for its 1.2 million members, who will get special payments if they begin driving for Uber.

Life Reimagined doesn't have an age requirement, but its average member is 52 years old.

While this is the first time it has partnered with AARP to find more drivers, it's only the latest play in Uber's growing senior charm offensive.

Last year, the company targeted seniors and the disabled with UberAssist, a feature designed to allow riders "needing an extra hand to request safe and reliable rides at the tap of a button."

And, at the White House Conference on Aging this month, Uber announced that it was launching pilot programs with senior community centers in Florida, Ohio, Arizona and California, where the company is giving out "free technology tutorials"-- like how to use Uber's app -- and providing "free or discounted rides."

Uber's campaign for senior passengers and, now, drivers, isn't just about the company's desire to soften its cut-throat image in the media. It's also about the fierce competition for drivers.

Both Uber's and Lyft's ride-on-demand models depend on having enough drivers to pick riders up, and the two rivals have fought bitterly over them. In fact, Uber's secret strategy to poach Lyft drivers involving bounty-collecting contractors, burner phones and talking points was uncovered last year.

David Richter, Uber's vice president of strategic initiatives, says he's confident that the company can attract more than 100,000 drivers from its new alliance with the AARP group's over 1.2 million members.

Emilio Pardo, executive vice president at AARP and president of Life Reimagined, says many of Life Reimagined's members plan on working into their 70s, and are looking for alternative and flexible ways to make money.

And Uber says that it's got just the right jobs for them.

"What we're able to offer is a flexible and engaging way to make money," says Richter.

As part of its new alliance, Uber says that beginning Thursday Life Reimagined members who start driving for the company and complete at least 10 rides will receive $35. Uber says it will also begin organizing national and local events with the AARP group and will work with it online to "make the Life Reimagined community aware of the Uber partner-driver opportunity."

Richter says the average Uber driver is already over 40 years old, so recruiting from an organization whose average member is more than 10 years older isn't that much of a stretch.

Why partner at all? Uber says its other partnerships are already bearing fruit. One with the US military, for example, was meant to attract 50,000 new drivers within 18 months; Uber says 20,000 have joined, nearly halfway to that goal.

Still, it's not all rosy, and at least one Uber partnership with another organization hasn't gone so well. The company announced that it would begin working with a United Nations women's group. But later that month UN Women cut off the partnership before it began, citing the company's reputation for creating "precarious, informal jobs" that it said don't contribute to women's economic empowerment.

Update, July 30 at 11:04 a.m. PT: Added specific month when number of Uber's driver-partners reached 1 million globally.

wtf is wrong with uber

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FAT32 SHAMER: Aug 16, 2012

holy poo poo

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:46

Jenny Agutter: Mar 18, 2009

just laying pr groundwork for their self-driving cars. when they get those working everyone will sigh with relief as thousands of septuagenarians are laid off

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:47

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Jesus Christ they're comedically evil

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:51

overeager overeater: Oct 16, 2011; "The cosmonauts were transfixed with wonderment as the sun set - over the Earth - there lucklessly, untethered Comrade Todd on fire."

ultramiraculous posted:

this is a good idea

it's a great service because it's trivial to put in any coordinates you'd like, and the billing is per-month

so once someone loses their API keys, you can beam police anonymously to anyone in God's United States of America

not to mention the whole thing about making access to emergency services dependent on wifi presence and some random firm's servers staying up

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:53

crusader_complex: Jun 4, 2012

qirex posted:

Lichten & Liss-Riordan claims they spoke with 50 drivers from Uber�s original testimony, and �most expressed interest in being reimbursed for their expenses by Uber.� The majority were afraid to do so officially in the court record for fear of losing their Uber app access.

contractors

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:56

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Stymie posted:

yeah there needs to be a pretty sharp backlash against programmers calling themselves engineers

engineers actually make things

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:58

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

It all started when a �self-taught engineer, extreme introvert, science-nerd, anime-lover, college dropout� wrote that she was tired of stereotypes.

Isis Wenger, a platform engineer in San Francisco, got talked into being one of a handful of colleagues featured in a hastily organized recruiting campaign for her company OneLogin, she wrote on Medium.

lmao @ everything in here

When you call programmers on calling themselves "engineers" they go off about how engineer is an old meaningless term that actually has no prestige or meaning, which completely contradicts why they're stealing it to begin with.

# ? Aug 4, 2015 23:59

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

idgaf about being called "engineer" but if it makes hr drones offer me a higher salary than "programmer" does, and it's socially acceptable in the industry (probably the most common title given for my job now)... why the hell wouldn't i use it? a software "architect" doesn't design buildings either, he just stacks paper. isn't that what it's all about

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:02

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Why not just call yourself a software doctor

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:02

FAT32 SHAMER: Aug 16, 2012

everyone up here is a legit engineer

they get laid off a lot and end up doing landscaping while praying that the big three don't fold

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:03

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

When taking a long scenic drive or getting away camping for the weekend, one guarantee aside from the picturesque views and camp side tranquility is that you, or one of your fellow adventurers are going to need to answer a call of nature at a most inappropriate time � i.e. in the car in the middle of nowhere or halfway through a forest hike. Well gone are the days of the �phantom squat� or ducking behind a tree and hoping not to be stumbled on by a family of tourists. This nifty invention known rather fittingly as the Bumper Dumper, is literally a toilet seat attached to a steel frame that requires only a trailer hitch receiver to turn the back of your vehicle into a veritable port-a-potty making the whole �roughing it� experience far more palatable.

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:03

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

Citizen Tayne posted:

Why not just call yourself a software doctor

i don't really want to be a resident working 90 hour weeks making $40k for six years

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:04

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

Citizen Tayne posted:

Why not just call yourself a software doctor

people already ask me to fix their computers enough, thank you

but if that was the most common title then you'd better believe i'd be ok with the implicit claim that i should be making doctor-money

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:04

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Condiv posted:

wtf is wrong with uber

*hails uber from inside farmers market, killing dozens*

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:07

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005

I have my P.E. and don't give a gently caress if you want to call yourself an engineer.

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:08

H.P. Hovercraft: Jan 12, 2004; one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse; Slippery Tilde

Citizen Tayne posted:

Why not just call yourself a software doctor

there's a thing in medicine right now where nurses are getting their doctorate in nursing and calling themselves doctors*

you can imagine how well this goes over in the hospital

*leaving off the M.D. after their name ofc

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:10

A COMPUTER GUY: Aug 23, 2007; I can't spare this man - he fights.

Condiv posted:

lol if drivers manage to do this, get ready for non-stop surges!

lmaooo i hope this takes off

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:11

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

there's a thing in medicine right now where nurses are getting their doctorate in nursing and calling themselves doctors*

you can imagine how well this goes over in the hospital

*leaving off the M.D. after their name ofc

there are nursing orgs that have been trying to pull AMA poo poo wrt licensing but everyone ignores them cause they're nurses lol.

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:17

computer parts: Nov 18, 2010; PLEASE CLAP

A COMPUTER GUY posted:

lmaooo i hope this takes off

can't wait for uber's justification for banning them

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:23

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

I made a whole thread the other day to try and troll you fuckers about "engineer" and nobody came :mad:

but sure lets have the same ol wankery again in this thread :reallymad: :superangry:

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:25

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

computer parts posted:

can't wait for uber's justification for banning them

can't have organized labor disrupting the important jitney industry

# ? Aug 5, 2015 00:31

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Soricidus posted:

i don't mind people calling themselves software engineers when they're making meticulously-designed software that meets demanding specifications and they're staking their reputations and careers on it being robust and correct. avionics, medical stuff, that kind ofthing.

lol at someone who hacks together javascript web frontends being an "engineer" tho

works for caltrans

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# ? May 15, 2024 19:49

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

uber has set a new minimum fare in certain markets of $2. safe rider fee still comes out of these fares along with uber's 20-30% cut. drivers can look forward to paying the expenses for these fares out of the 70-80 cents they receive.

# ? Aug 5, 2015 01:05

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