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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Boris Galerkin posted:

This is off topic but who in my library is considered a "librarian?" I always see people putting books away, people borrowing out books to people, or people scanning books back in, or people sitting at an administrative/customer rep desk answering questions about how to sign up for the library. Everyone I ask can tell me where the x genre books are and most people can tell me where books by author y can be found.

Not trying to belittle you or your profession but none of that seems like you need any special education to do.
I'm a librarian and I can't honestly say this doesn't ring true. :sigh:

Non-US so things may be different, but pretty much everything of what you listed would be handled by our equivalent to library assistants and to a surprisingly large degree volunteers and students (in university libraries). The actual librarians would be cataloguing, coordinating, planning events, performing admin duties, selecting new material, managing the website...

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bawk
Mar 31, 2013

My Lovely Horse posted:

I'm a librarian and I can't honestly say this doesn't ring true. :sigh:

Non-US so things may be different, but pretty much everything of what you listed would be handled by our equivalent to library assistants and to a surprisingly large degree volunteers and students (in university libraries). The actual librarians would be cataloguing, coordinating, planning events, performing admin duties, selecting new material, managing the website...

Pretty much this. Being a librarian is like being a kitchen manager, the assistants are your cooks. They do the sorting, checking out, etc if it's a big library, and your job is to lead them and handle managerial duties, for the most part. Small town, you might end up doing all of that yourself with some other assistants to help

TheRagamuffin
Aug 31, 2008

In Paradox Space, when you cross the line, your nuts are mine.

GAINING WEIGHT... posted:

. As is acquiring a comprehensive understanding of Dewey Decimal.

Pretty sure this requires an undergrad degree on its own.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Boris Galerkin posted:

This is off topic but who in my library is considered a "librarian?" I always see people putting books away, people borrowing out books to people, or people scanning books back in, or people sitting at an administrative/customer rep desk answering questions about how to sign up for the library. Everyone I ask can tell me where the x genre books are and most people can tell me where books by author y can be found.

Not trying to belittle you or your profession but none of that seems like you need any special education to do.

Someone told me that librarians are supposed to have graduate degrees in library studies; true librarians are rare

Maybe someone was bullshitting me?

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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My cousin has an actual degree in librarianism or whatever you call the career and he works 6 hours a day 4 days a week and gets a month of vacation.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
How can you possibly have enough classes on libraries to make a degree out of it?

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

ElGroucho posted:

Someone told me that librarians are supposed to have graduate degrees in library studies; true librarians are rare

Maybe someone was bullshitting me?

No, that's basically true. I was an assistant for years and it's basically a retail job with a small amount of specialised knowledge unless you're in local archives or something unusual. My library service had two qualified librarians across 21 branches and they were in charge of overall acquisitions and management, but even most of that was covered by assistants on a day to day basis. None of the branch managers were qualified, it's just stock rotation when you get down to it.

In my new role I work directly with a fully qualified archivist and records manager, but even then I'm basically an admin worker with a sideline in lifting heavy boxes in a warehouse.

Nouvelle Vague
Feb 16, 2011

Endut! Hoch Hech!

goose fleet posted:

How can you possibly have enough classes on libraries to make a degree out of it?

MLS/MIS here. I had one semester of actual library classes, then two years of archives specialization classes/internships/and various information science topics for the second degree.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

ElGroucho posted:

Someone told me that librarians are supposed to have graduate degrees in library studies; true librarians are rare

Maybe someone was bullshitting me?

nope, you need a masters of library science

i got my undergrad in library science, but when i started looking for grad schools the recession hit. i applied to a part-time job at a local library and found out that 300 people applied to the same job, most of them already had mls degrees. this scenario repeated itself a couple times

at that point i said gently caress it and got an it job and never looked back.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

nope, you need a masters of library science

i got my undergrad in library science, but when i started looking for grad schools the recession hit. i applied to a part-time job at a local library and found out that 300 people applied to the same job, most of them already had mls degrees. this scenario repeated itself a couple times

at that point i said gently caress it and got an it job and never looked back.

And now you're chillin' at your desk posting with your IT buds

:smuggo::respek::smuggo:

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

ElGroucho posted:

And now you're chillin' at your desk posting with your IT buds

:smuggo::respek::smuggo:

actually i work from home so i am chilling with my dog

RabbitWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Muldoon

Leninboarrir posted:

http://www.businessinsider.com/money-advice-from-a-millionaire-2015-
Fast forward to this morning and I was again about to get into my car. A man driving a truck down the street stops in front of my house and yells, "Mr. Siebold, I took your advice and started my own company. I have five employees working for me and business is booming. My family and I are experiencing freedom like we never thought possible."
Thank you for teaching how I can get people to do hard labor for just a little more than minimum wage for me.

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)
"Experiencing freedom"

trickybiscuits
Jan 13, 2008

yospos

goose fleet posted:

How can you possibly have enough classes on libraries to make a degree out of it?
http://www.albany.edu/informationstudies/ist_courses.php

oldpainless posted:

My cousin has an actual degree in librarianism or whatever you call the career and he works 6 hours a day 4 days a week and gets a month of vacation.
This is called "part-time with time off so they don't have to pay benefits."

:(

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

ElGroucho posted:

Someone told me that librarians are supposed to have graduate degrees in library studies; true librarians are rare

Maybe someone was bullshitting me?

You need a Master's in Australia, not sure about the US. And yeah, lots of people you see in libraries doing library poo poo are not actually librarians. They are library assistants or the like, usually volunteers, students, other interns, etc. They do the shelving, loans and returns, etc, cleaning and maintaining the collection and premises, etc. They're often paid poo poo-all or nothing (usually the latter). The actual librarians, who have a specialised degree, do much more IT-heavy stuff that underpins the whole thing, plus adding to the collection, searching for things to add to the collection, targetting stuff for weeding, managing and planning events, programs, and promotions (lots of these), and managing all their minions, plus lots more. The stuff people think of as "things librarians do", like loans and returns and shelving, are generally not handled by the professional librarians themselves.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

sweeperbravo posted:

"Experiencing freedom"

I have so much freedom now, I can transform into an eagle at will and manifest gold coins with the power of my mind.

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion
Why did this happen at a martial arts school?

quote:

Needs To Go On A Pop Culture Odyssey
MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL | USA | MOVIES & TV, TEACHERS
(I am doing homework in the lobby while my sister is doing her class; namely, she’s reading the Odyssey. My karate teacher notices this, and talks to me about it while we’re stretching.)

Teacher: “So you’re reading The Odyssey?”

Me: “Yup.”

Teacher: “What part are you on?”

Me: “The part where Odysseus goes to the kingdom whose name I can’t pronounce.”

Teacher: “Are you at the part of the sirens yet?”

Me: “No. Don’t spoil it for me!”

Teacher: “That’s like the oldest book! Asking for no spoilers is like asking for no spoilers for The Lion King!”

Me: “…”

Teacher: *face turns to shock* “You haven’t watched The Lion King!?”

Me: “Nope.”

Teacher: “You had a sad childhood. Did you at least watch Toy Story?”

Me: “Nope.”

Teacher: *stares* “…You had a dark, sad childhood…”

Me: *attempting to make him stop mock-pitying me* “I watched Toy Story 3, though.”

Teacher: “…You mean you watched it without watching the first two?”

Me: “Yeah…”

Teacher: *makes some sort of plus sign with his fingers, or perhaps an X, and shakes his head disapprovingly*

Me: “What’s that supposed to mean?!”

Teacher: *walks away* “Don’t talk to me.”

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
What a pointless and lovely story. It also states the sister is reading the odyssey for some reason instead of the dude.

Also I've not seen the lion king either :ohdear:

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Fathis Munk posted:

What a pointless and lovely story. It also states the sister is reading the odyssey for some reason instead of the dude.

Also I've not seen the lion king either :ohdear:

*stares* …You had a dark, sad childhood…

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

Fathis Munk posted:

What a pointless and lovely story. It also states the sister is reading the odyssey for some reason instead of the dude.

Also I've not seen the lion king either :ohdear:

*makes some sort of plus sign with my fingers, or perhaps an X, and shakes my head disapprovingly*

Seriously that bit annoys me. Who lives in the USA in 2015 and doesn't recognise someone making the "warding off evil poo poo" sign of the cross?

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

*makes some sort of plus sign with my fingers, or perhaps an X, and shakes my head disapprovingly*

Seriously that bit annoys me. Who lives in the USA in 2015 and doesn't recognise someone making the "warding off evil poo poo" sign of the cross?

Any character from a Chick tract.
There is a chance their family has moved to the US recently, but the author would have probably mentioned it.

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

*makes some sort of plus sign with my fingers, or perhaps an X, and shakes my head disapprovingly*

Seriously that bit annoys me. Who lives in the USA in 2015 and doesn't recognise someone making the "warding off evil poo poo" sign of the cross?

Girl who used to work for me had no idea about Christianity in general. The whole Nativity was completely beyond her comprehension. We live near Los Angeles, and she loves TV and movies, so it's not like she never had a chance to learn it or was completely unexposed to it.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7YW045deBY

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013

Khazar-khum posted:

Why did this happen at a martial arts school?

Okay, first things first.
The person telling the story is doing homework in a lobby of a martial arts dojo while the sister is doing her (karate)class. Then after the comma, the positions switch and suddenly it's the sister doing homework and reading the Odyssey and now the storyteller is in the class, stretching. But then the questions are still directed towards the storyteller as if s/he was reading the book which would be an odd inference to make given that the sister is the one reading the book.

Now that we have that settled, why is the Karate Teacher a 14-year old in middle school?

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

Postal Parcel posted:

Okay, first things first.
The person telling the story is doing homework in a lobby of a martial arts dojo while the sister is doing her (karate)class. Then after the comma, the positions switch and suddenly it's the sister doing homework and reading the Odyssey and now the storyteller is in the class, stretching. But then the questions are still directed towards the storyteller as if s/he was reading the book which would be an odd inference to make given that the sister is the one reading the book.

Now that we have that settled, why is the Karate Teacher a 14-year old in middle school?

Yeah, it's... all over the place. I'm hoping the actual author wasn't this confused about who was doing what in their own made-up story, and that this is another example of NAR heavily editing things to make them even more nonsensical.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

*makes some sort of plus sign with my fingers, or perhaps an X, and shakes my head disapprovingly*

Seriously that bit annoys me. Who lives in the USA in 2015 and doesn't recognise someone making the "warding off evil poo poo" sign of the cross?

Someone that hasn't seen the exorcist - don't spoil it!

walrusman
Aug 4, 2006

corn in the bible posted:

This troperrecently (A few weeks ago) got into a....little fight with his longtime nemesis, last day of (high)school, he may not be coming(droping out, my nemesis, not me) back, revenge bluh bluh merger childish things. He decides to come at me with a meter stick with a rather intimidating war cry. I merely tilt my head ever so slightly and plunk, it hits the wall behind my head, visibly dumbfounded he then attempts to slash me. Big mistake, my headphones got unplugged from my Ipod touch, and my favorite song was just beginning. Nightwish's song she is my sin and so begins my epic battle, he keeps slashing and lunging at me all while I dodge his blows and strokes. He attempts another headshot but I deftly grabbed it from him, he fell face first onto the floor, then I said one of my favorite badass boasts almost immediately afterword "On your knees...I want you to beg for forgiveness." my class's resident Video game gerd (Her own word she made, a combination of geek and nerd, she calls herself this all the time) said almost YELLING "Holy poo poo dude! That was awesome!" unfortunately his Girlfriend didnt think so, and tossed him the other meter stick and said "Kick that little snot into next year!"(Even though im taller then him he's like 5'4 im 5'7) and we exchanged blows which was eerily similar to aboved mentioned Final Fantasy movie, I then disarmed him and then said, "I hold no ill will, nor is this a personal matter, but thanks for the workout non-the less." He simply bowed his head in shame, his girlfriend having pure spasms of RAGE, chiding him that he couldn't beat a video game playing ultimate geek face(highly immature for a 16 year old girl I know), but I couldn't here them over the applause I was getting from the other geeks and my fellow peers, my teacher ( a substitute) woke up from her nap and simply said "what did I miss?" we all (except for my nemesis and his GF) begun laughing uncontrollably for a few minutes. I deadpanned afterwords "Nothing at all ma'am, just having some fun, listening to music, drawing, epic one sided battles..." She shrugged and went back to sleep.

This one is always a classic, of course, but a key point sticks with me. If you unplug headphones from an iPod, does it automatically become a boombox, blasting a lovely metal soundtrack to your imaginary fight scene? I thought it just sat there.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

walrusman posted:

This one is always a classic, of course, but a key point sticks with me. If you unplug headphones from an iPod, does it automatically become a boombox, blasting a lovely metal soundtrack to your imaginary fight scene? I thought it just sat there.

It pauses the music. Does the iPod version from when this was from even have a speaker? I thought the early ones were headphone-only.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

walrusman posted:

This one is always a classic, of course, but a key point sticks with me. If you unplug headphones from an iPod, does it automatically become a boombox, blasting a lovely metal soundtrack to your imaginary fight scene? I thought it just sat there.

No when you unplug the headphones it pauses any audio player. You can play audio aloud with it but it won't do that if you remove the headphones while it's playing.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Fathis Munk posted:

Also I've not seen the lion king either :ohdear:

:wtc:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

walrusman posted:

This one is always a classic, of course, but a key point sticks with me. If you unplug headphones from an iPod, does it automatically become a boombox, blasting a lovely metal soundtrack to your imaginary fight scene? I thought it just sat there.

Older ipod touches (proto-iphones) and phones would just play the music your listening too at the volume you were listening too.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

SubjectVerbObject posted:

It's a compulsion. Bubble wrap story time.

In college I worked in the student employment office. I was the student assistant and did a lot of package receiving, since they got a lot of career oriented materials - magazines, flyers, videotapes. Yes this was a while ago. So I worked a lot with boxes and bubble wrap.

Part of the function of the student employment office was to host onsite interviews. Companies would come to the college to interview students, and the office would give advice to the students, and provide rooms and scheduling to the companies. Since this was during the Cold War, and my college had a big International Relations/PolySci presence, as well as a Russian language program, the CIA would do interviews.

When the CIA came, it was always weird, or at least different from normal interviews. They had one person who was their public face. None of the other interviewers would talk outside of the interviews. They would not sign in, or leave a card, or even smile. The guidance counselors would not allowed to get feedback on the interviews, and there was no real interaction except the with the on guy who could give his name.

The day of the interviews, it got weirder. There were protesters, and certain students had signed up for interviews not to try to get a job, but to confront the CIA employees on various CIA interventions in Latin America. Security was called to guard the office, and the police were involved.

I knew none of this when I showed up for my afternoon shift in jeans and a tie dye. I was immediately grabbed by security and there as a tense moment until the staff let them know I was just the work study guy. I was let in and went about my duties, not really thinking about the situation. And I still wasn't thinking about the situation at the end of the day when the staff and CIA interviewers were gathered around talking about the day and how interesting it had been. I was just unpacking boxes and there was bubble wrap and of course I had to pop some.

The interviewers went for cover. Not like hit the deck, but they found desks to crouch behind. Everyone was staring at me and I was staring at the bubble wrap in my hand. The office director saved me by saying, "that's SVO, he's our student," and I went in hid in the back room like the geek I was.

So yeah, it's a compulsion.

Anil Dikshit
Apr 11, 2007
:vince:

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Postal Parcel posted:

Okay, first things first.
The person telling the story is doing homework in a lobby of a martial arts dojo while the sister is doing her (karate)class. Then after the comma, the positions switch and suddenly it's the sister doing homework and reading the Odyssey and now the storyteller is in the class, stretching. But then the questions are still directed towards the storyteller as if s/he was reading the book which would be an odd inference to make given that the sister is the one reading the book.

Now that we have that settled, why is the Karate Teacher a 14-year old in middle school?

The narrator and the sister were in a quantum superstate and the teacher collapsed the wave-function by observing them/it. The teacher is a Higgs Boson.

Junius
May 14, 2006

Thank you, entertainment committee.

walrusman posted:

This one is always a classic, of course, but a key point sticks with me. If you unplug headphones from an iPod, does it automatically become a boombox, blasting a lovely metal soundtrack to your imaginary fight scene? I thought it just sat there.

Holy poo poo, until this post I never realised that's what the author was trying to imply/describe. I always took it as the Evil Jock not knowing what hell he had wrought by cutting off the author's favourite song and that maybe the song was playing in the troper's head while he unleashed some justice. To think the rest of the scene was meant to take place WHILE THE SONG WAS BLARING just makes an already classic stdh EVEN BETTER.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
So how did the other tropers react? Did they believe him?

Ergo Propter Hog
Jul 21, 2014



EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013


He capitalised some parts correctly but not other parts. I wonder what kind of insects live in his skull.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges







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sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

goose fleet posted:

So how did the other tropers react? Did they believe him?

Knowing torpers none of them evne read it, they just went on to write their own stories hopign everyone else would read it and praise them. Most threads there IME were very non-dialogue- like people just showed up to read the thread title, decided they had something to say, posted it, and then were gone, or would check back to see if anyone responded to their own masterpiece without ever grasping maybe that others would enjoy feedback as well.

On the pages themselves people would argue over stupid pedantic poo poo like "What size poop did Character take in Anime 19283" but wouldnt' dare question something like iPod samurai here

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