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Dick Trauma posted:Is being a Niven fan something else I need to add to my personal List of Shame? Other than the fact he doesn't write things on his own anymore? It's all collaborations with people I've never heard of.
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Also, eat your Oreos off the floor like a animal.
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I like that she can at least admit that Michelle isn't Obama's beard.
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RyokoTK posted:Also, eat your Oreos off the floor like a animal. You piece of poo poo
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RyokoTK posted:Also, eat your Oreos off the floor like a animal. Over the sink like a bachelor you sick gently caress
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Bullshit, little kids get an automatic Rapture! Maybe Aatrek was trying to piggyback his way into heaven.
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Well, you can't fault them for truth in advertising. That is definitely asparagus and water.
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GIRL BRAINS posted:Pretty sure Larry Niven is a giant pedo He's a sci-fi author, so chances say "yes." Mario the clown only wants to share his wacky pastry antics. 
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PaulBearer posted:Milk enema. And you just instinctly know there's a ton of Japanese porn about it. I love Joe Don Baker films!
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Backweb posted:I love Joe Don Baker films! 
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Screaming Idiot posted:He's a sci-fi author, so chances say "yes." What is it about sf writers that they turn into such loving creeps when they get old? Or start out as such creeps but hide it from you until you're really into their work and suddenly Louis Wu is back on the ringworld and having sex with underage otter-people children.
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Gorilla Salad posted:What is it about sf writers that they turn into such loving creeps when they get old? They were probably always weirdos. I think it's just that as they get older they put less and less effort into hiding all the crazy poo poo because they just don't care anymore.
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Maybe living inside their head too much? Contemplating that "Sci-Fi stories often take place in utopias, where humans don't look down on mind-altering substances or the age of those you love." turning into "Yeah, I've an evolved person, gonna get loving blitzed and perv after teens."
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Eh, most of the really creative people I've known have been some flavor of loving loopy, but they still manage to keep enough perspective to not turn into pervy creepers. More likely they were always riddled with paraphilias and just spent a lifetime constructing a world view and system of rationalizations that would let them justify their lovely behavior to themselves. You also see it a lot with the political views of fiction authors. Early on they tend to keep it out of their writing, or maybe only dip a toe into the pundit pool, but as time goes on they fall deeper down the rabbit hole to the point that their fiction and their world view become this weird self reenforcing loop of crazy the drives them to some really hosed up places. Skippy McPants has a new favorite as of 10:06 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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GIRL BRAINS posted:Pretty sure Larry Niven is a giant pedo I love how this is on his Wikipedia page  Not quite what he imagined how rishathra would turn out to be 
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Piers Anthony. That's all I need to say.
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Bio of a Space Tyrant. Hooks you in for four books on space, politics, immigration, piracy, society and science. Then in book five, BAM!, the main character who's in his 50s spends half the book loving a literal child who is also mentally rearded.
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Also, the mode series. King from place with women in diaper-like undies goes to parallel universe to find a queen, brings back underage Kat Dennings, who recounts her rape repeatedly.
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kizudarake posted:Piers Anthony. That's all I need to say. Gorilla Salad posted:Bio of a Space Tyrant. kizudarake posted:Also, the mode series. King from place with women in diaper-like undies goes to parallel universe to find a queen, brings back underage Kat Dennings, who recounts her rape repeatedly. I did a google and and found some excepts. Wow, like, drat man! I'm genuinely shocked that stuff made it into a published novel.
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Gorilla Salad posted:What is it about sf writers that they turn into such loving creeps when they get old? There's one SF author, Jon Varley, who was very popular back in the late 70's, early 80's and every single thing I read by him (which was five different works that all won major awards) featured something about how awesome pedophilia was. It started out with "Huh, that's weird," and then by the end I was going, "I hope this guy is in prison." 
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I stopped enjoying Niven after I found out how big a fan of sci-fi conventions he is. The cast of one of his books (gently caress trying to remember which one) is literally all his weird rear end con friends. He wrote and published a fan fiction about his fans. And it contains the lyrics of really bad fan-written songs. Really bad. Also I think he has a severe brain problem now which is why everything is "by LAAAAAARRRRRRRY NIIIIIVENNNNNNN (and some other shmuck)" 
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Random Stranger posted:There's one SF author, Jon Varley, who was very popular back in the late 70's, early 80's and every single thing I read by them (which was five different works that all won major awards) featured something about how awesome pedophilia was. It started out with "Huh, that's weird," and then by the end I was going, "I hope this guy is in prison." It's not limited to just SF either, plenty of the same deal can be found in fantasy as well. The one I remember most distinctly is Lev Grossman, who wrote a series that was basically Harry Potter but a bit more grounded and gritty. At first it was entertaining enough, but then there was a pretty weird sequence out of nowhere where the entire cast is transformed into foxes and has furry sex with each other. Next book featured a full-on graphic rape scene involving a humanoid furry fox-demon. At that point I started to see something of a pattern emerging there and decided I probably didn't need to read anything else by him.
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I'm going to write a gritty sci-fi space opera series and just have it get lighter and more family-friendly with each book, just to be contrary.
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Perestroika posted:The one I remember most distinctly is Lev Grossman. Well what did you expect from a name like that?
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strangeless posted:I stopped enjoying Niven after I found out how big a fan of sci-fi conventions he is. The cast of one of his books (gently caress trying to remember which one) is literally all his weird rear end con friends.
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Screaming Idiot posted:I'm going to write a gritty sci-fi space opera series and just have it get lighter and more family-friendly with each book, just to be contrary. You mean like the original Star Wars trilogy?
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veedubfreak posted:You mean like the original Star Wars trilogy? That went more like gritty-> really gritty-> Space Teddy Bears Save the Day (with ending dance party)!
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A New Hope was a good mix of dark and adventure. Empire Strikes Back took a gigantic nosedive into gritty and was dark as hell for a Star Wars movie. Return of the Jedi started out cool and dark and turned into comically absurd the second the Ewoks stepped on-screen.
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Zopotantor posted:Fallen Angels? There are also references to fans and fellow authors in The Flying Sorcerers (by Niven & David Gerrold), which is very good. I'm not sure, Pournelle tamed a lot of Niven's more face-palmy hijinks, or at least I hope I didn't just take the most regrettable parts of Footfall or Lucifer's Hammer and turn them into a single work that I hated. Flying Sorcerers' plot was pretty fun but I found it too inside-baseball and very punny/cringy. Did someone change the picture of Niven in Wikipedia already or is that where the picture of him with the cow came from? 
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I like how apparently George tried really hard to make the Ewoks look threatening. Like, giant bloody fangs and glowing red eyes. Apparently none of it worked so he just said "gently caress it" and did it super-cute.
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bamhand posted:Well what did you expect from a name like that? Big things?
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Random Stranger posted:There's one SF author, Jon Varley, who was very popular back in the late 70's, early 80's and every single thing I read by him (which was five different works that all won major awards) featured something about how awesome pedophilia was. It started out with "Huh, that's weird," and then by the end I was going, "I hope this guy is in prison." The only Varley things I've read was the one about loving centaurs on one of Saturn's moons and overthrowing the deity that lived there, and another book about a society where people were basically immortal and started committing suicide because life got boring in a hurry. 
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Perestroika posted:It's not limited to just SF either, plenty of the same deal can be found in fantasy as well. The one I remember most distinctly is Lev Grossman, who wrote a series that was basically Harry Potter but a bit more grounded and gritty. At first it was entertaining enough, but then there was a pretty weird sequence out of nowhere where the entire cast is transformed into foxes and has furry sex with each other. Next book featured a full-on graphic rape scene involving a humanoid furry fox-demon. At that point I started to see something of a pattern emerging there and decided I probably didn't need to read anything else by him. He's a book critic that used his connections to get his own stuff published. He also posted something like a for page article proudly describing all the references to pop culture he pour into his first book, including a Penny Arcade Joe.
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