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Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Mods, please change my name to fartbox tonguepunching. Tia

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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

I know everyone's first time is memorable, but that's an old joke.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FactsAreUseless posted:

I know everyone's first time is memorable, but that's an old joke.

just like my first time :(

Lunchmeat Larry
Nov 3, 2012

KillHour posted:

:staredog:

Uhhh... thanks for sharing?
im the wife

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
~month away from vasectomy. After recovery, any changes in sex that I should expect? Everything I've read so far says no, but wanted one last confirmation.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Gounads posted:

~month away from vasectomy. After recovery, any changes in sex that I should expect? Everything I've read so far says no, but wanted one last confirmation.

No, once you recover, sex won't be affected. It's probably better, since you won't have to worry about babbies shooting out afterwards.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

hoobajoo posted:

No, once you recover, sex won't be affected. It's probably better, since you won't have to worry about babbies shooting out afterwards.

That's one hell of a kidney stone.

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?
Do you want the absolute god honest awful truthful answer?

The first couple of orgasms after my snip felt weird. They just weren't right.

A bit later? Exactly the same as before in every way, except with less stress and worrying.

While your junk is still only mostly healed though, orgasms are weird. Either put up with a few odd ones or just wait a bit longer before getting back on the horse, so to speak.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Masonity posted:

Do you want the absolute god honest awful truthful answer?

The first couple of orgasms after my snip felt weird. They just weren't right.

A bit later? Exactly the same as before in every way, except with less stress and worrying.

While your junk is still only mostly healed though, orgasms are weird. Either put up with a few odd ones or just wait a bit longer before getting back on the horse, so to speak.

I was given to understand that you're supposed to have a few orgasms as soon as you're healed enough, to purge any lingering sperm from the system. Is this not right?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Jedit posted:

I was given to understand that you're supposed to have a few orgasms as soon as you're healed enough, to purge any lingering sperm from the system. Is this not right?

No it's definitely right. Dude didn't say he was having unprotected PIV intercourse right off the bat though.

I don't recall anything weird about orgasms after the snip. There's some weird poo poo that can happen during recovery but once the doc says you're clean, it's pretty much party time.

We've got a vasectomy thread somewhere in A/T.

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?

Travis343 posted:

No it's definitely right. Dude didn't say he was having unprotected PIV intercourse right off the bat though.

I don't recall anything weird about orgasms after the snip. There's some weird poo poo that can happen during recovery but once the doc says you're clean, it's pretty much party time.

We've got a vasectomy thread somewhere in A/T.

This...

You shouldn't be having unprotected PIV until you have "shot blank" in an actual lab confirmed test. You shouldn't have sex for a couole of weeks after in general, according to my doctor. Careful masturbating is okay sooner, but yeah. I don't think the insides were quite recovered yet when I tried it, so I had odd results.

Give it a few weeks, knock a few out (around 20 orgasms I believe it is?) either in your hand, a rubber whatever if your partner is still on birth control waiting for your all clear. Get tested, and THEN have unprotected baby free sex once you know there's no swimmers in your baby batter.


edit: Yeah there's a vasectomy thread. I'm the OP. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563410

Masonity fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Aug 2, 2015

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

89 posted:

I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

Short answer is yes, longer answer is it depends on the type. The pill is a bit less reliable than shots, implants, or IUD's.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

89 posted:

I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

You ejaculating inside while she's using birth control responsibly (which she is) comes with a way smaller risk of pregnancy than the pull-out method with no birth control.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

89 posted:

I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

Dude. It's called 'birth control'.

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011
To be specific, you're looking at a one or two in ten thousand chance of her getting pregnant if you exclusively use the pill over the course of a year. Realistically, the only way you'll appreciably decrease the chance is for her to get an iud & you to wear a condom every time.

Hydrolith
Oct 30, 2009

89 posted:

I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

Here are the raw numbers:

https://www.optionsforsexualhealth.org/birth-control-pregnancy/birth-control-options/effectiveness

If she doesn't miss a pill, it's 99.7% effective. With typical use, it's 92% effective. That's pretty drat good.

Pulling out, on the other hand, is 96% effective if you never once screw up, but typically it's more like 73% because mistakes happen.

In other words: yes, you can trust the pill. It's about as effective as it gets, short of IUDs or sterilization, and it's not even trailing those by any practical difference.

Hydrolith fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Aug 6, 2015

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps

Hydrolith posted:

Here are the raw numbers:

https://www.optionsforsexualhealth.org/birth-control-pregnancy/birth-control-options/effectiveness

If she doesn't miss a piss, it's 99.7% effective. With typical use, it's 92% effective. That's pretty drat good.

Pulling out, on the other hand, is 96% effective if you never once screw up, but typically it's more like 73% because mistakes happen.

In other words: yes, you can trust the pill. It's about as effective as it gets, short of IUDs or sterilization, and it's not even trailing those by any practical difference.

Yeah, she always goes to the bathroom after.

Well, thanks guys! Puts me at ease :)

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Getting pregnant on average once every 1/(1-.92) = 12.5 years is a practical difference from getting pregnant once every 1/(1-.992) = 125 years, to me. That's the copper IUD, with hormonal it's 1000 years.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

89 posted:

I'm dating a girl right now and she's on birth control. She never misses a pill and is very adamant about staying on top of it. She says she's more worried about getting pregnant than I am. I always use the pull out method (I've tried different kind of condoms countless times and can't maintain an erection with them). She says that it would be fine to ejaculate in her and she's not worried about it. I've talked to a couple of friends and from their experiences they also back that statement up. That as long as the girl doesn't miss a pill, cream pie away.

Sex thread, input? Can I really trust birth control?

Just get yourself a cockring or something to keep you hard through those first few times with a condom and quit being a giant baby if you're still worried about it.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I had sex for over a decade with hormonal BC before I got vasectomized. Never even had a close call.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


89 posted:

Yeah, she always goes to the bathroom after.

Well, thanks guys! Puts me at ease :)

Put it in her butt and the chance becomes even smaller.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Just remember if she's taking the pill it's most effective taken at the same time each day. I'd still recommend pulling out if you are extra paranoid about pregnancy.

Hydrolith
Oct 30, 2009

89 posted:

Yeah, she always goes to the bathroom after.

Hydrolith posted:

If she doesn't miss a piss
Oh god damnit.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Liquid Communism posted:

Just get yourself a cockring or something to keep you hard through those first few times with a condom and quit being a giant baby if you're still worried about it.

Yep. I can't stay hard with a condom either. So while waiting for my new GF's implant to arrive, I've been using a cockring. Its not perfect, but it works well enough in the short term.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Slaan posted:

in the short term

heh


But re: birth control, I was thinking of getting a vasectomy; my partner would be in a bit of danger if she got pregnant, and she wouldn't want kids if she could. But I'm hella poor, and I was imagining it would be waaay outside of my price range. I checked the vasectomy thread OP real quick, but didn't see anything about typical prices. Anybody know anything? I'm in the US, since I imagine that makes a difference.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

John Lee posted:

heh


But re: birth control, I was thinking of getting a vasectomy; my partner would be in a bit of danger if she got pregnant, and she wouldn't want kids if she could. But I'm hella poor, and I was imagining it would be waaay outside of my price range. I checked the vasectomy thread OP real quick, but didn't see anything about typical prices. Anybody know anything? I'm in the US, since I imagine that makes a difference.

It's covered under most insurance plans. If you don't have health insurance, it's surgery so it'll cost about a billion dollars.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Mechafunkzilla posted:

It's covered under most insurance plans. If you don't have health insurance, it's surgery so it'll cost about a billion dollars.

I had it done as an outpatient procedure, which is much cheaper. I don't know exactly how much, since I have insurance, but it doesn't have to be a surgery.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Unfortunately vasectomy wasn't included in the no-cost birth control mandate portion of the ACA, so unless you have really good insurance you'll probably have to meet your annual deductible before they'll cover it.

If your partner has insurance she should be able to get pretty much anything 100% covered, when my wife got her IUD a few years ago our insurance covered pretty much everything but the ultrasound, IIRC we paid less than $200 out of pocket and the whole procedure was right around $2000.

gariig
Dec 31, 2004
Beaten into submission by my fiance
Pillbug
Planned Parenthood says $0-1000. If you are a young dude (under 30) you are going to have a hell of a time convincing them to do a vasectomy. An IUD for your lady friend is another option. Like Geoj said it's relatively cheap (with insurance or up to $1000 from Planned Parenthood) and it's reversible in case she changers her mind and is willing to risk a pregnancy.

gariig fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Aug 6, 2015

Gounads
Mar 13, 2013

Where am I?
How did I get here?
Planned Parenthood offers low cost vasectomies. Their website claims $0-$1000

My wife's IUD cost us two specialist office co-pays.


e: you beat me!

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
Also something to keep in mind, the IUD is once every 5 years, so even if you have to pay a fair amount of money up front, compare it to the copay on filling the pill prescription 60 times. Sucks if you just can't get the cash up front, but great if you can do it.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Thanks for the protips; Planned Parenthood is probably where I'll end up going, although I'll make insurance-related inquiries.

Also, Geoj: I'm not covered under my lady's insurance. We have totally different and unrelated plans.

IUDs were a considered option, but she's awfully worried about the possible side effects. She tends to have pseudo-menstruation from unrelated medicines, and the whole idea of an IUD freaks her out a little anyways. The Implanon thingie sounded like a good option, though.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Look into state sponsored family planning programs. I live in Oklahoma and was eligible for Sooner Care, since I was poo poo poor and didn't have insurance. It paid for the procedure entirely. This was also pre Obamacare so I don't know if this is more or less common now.

I was 26 or 27 and did not get any trouble from the doctor either. Part of the pushback against younger dudes getting vasectomied might be that the younger you are, up to about 25, increases the risk of the procedure reversing itself. There are a lot of redundancies you can do to make sure the tubes stay severed though so ask your doctor about that stuff.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

John Lee posted:

Also, Geoj: I'm not covered under my lady's insurance. We have totally different and unrelated plans.

As long as she has insurance that wasn't grandfathered in from before the passage of the ACA anything she chooses should be covered 100%. They might not cover some ancillary procedures deemed unnecessary but that should be a drop in the bucket compared with what you'll likely have to pay out of pocket for a vasectomy, unless you have a "cadillac plan" with a low deductible or one that covers vasectomy at no cost.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Geoj posted:

As long as she has insurance that wasn't grandfathered in from before the passage of the ACA anything she chooses should be covered 100%. They might not cover some ancillary procedures deemed unnecessary but that should be a drop in the bucket compared with what you'll likely have to pay out of pocket for a vasectomy, unless you have a "cadillac plan" with a low deductible or one that covers vasectomy at no cost.

Alright, lemme confirm this to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: My girlfriend's insurance will pay for some guy she quite enjoys the company of to have a vasectomy? That sounds wrong, but I will freely admit I know almost nothing about insurance; I just now got some.

(If anybody wants this semi-derail to stop, feel free to speak up. I know insurancechat isn't the illumination we all came here for.)

gariig
Dec 31, 2004
Beaten into submission by my fiance
Pillbug

John Lee posted:

Alright, lemme confirm this to make sure I'm understanding you correctly: My girlfriend's insurance will pay for some guy she quite enjoys the company of to have a vasectomy? That sounds wrong, but I will freely admit I know almost nothing about insurance; I just now got some.

(If anybody wants this semi-derail to stop, feel free to speak up. I know insurancechat isn't the illumination we all came here for.)

Geoj meant cover an IUD or some other birth control for her. Which she should do or keep convincing each new dude she dates to get a vasectomy or go on/off BC.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Ah, yes, that makes a good deal more sense than what I was thinking. Appreciated.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Yes, her plan (unless she's still somehow on a grandfathered plan from before 2012) will cover at no out of pocket cost any FDA approved contraceptive device or procedure for her. Read more here. (e: that's technically for plans on state and federal-run exchanges but the same rules apply to private plans as well.)

I'm not trying to talk you out of a vasectomy but from an economic standpoint it makes more sense for her to get on long-term birth control, or if she can find a doctor willing to do it, sterilization.

Geoj fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Aug 6, 2015

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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Here's the vasectomy megathread if you want to ask other guys how much it was or how old they were.

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