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And More
Jun 19, 2013

How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

Solice Kirsk posted:

Episodes 6, 7, and potentially 8 could wind up being good. Still the first 5 were terrible. Even the giant shoot out was boring.

Maybe I'm just weird then. I had tears in my eyes when Colin Farrell put on his brass knuckles in the first episode. Other than that, his dream vision, and the constant singing and dancing is actually really reminiscent of Twin Peaks (in a good way). Taylor Kitsch as James Hurley is also pretty funny (in a bad way). I love when Kitsch and Vaughn try to act.

Yeah, 6 and 7 have been objectively good, though.

And More fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Aug 6, 2015

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

And More posted:

Maybe I'm just weird then. I had tears in my eyes when Colin Farrell put on his brass knuckles in the first episode. Other than that, his dream vision, and the constant singing and dancing is actually really reminiscent of Twin Peaks (in a good way). Taylor Kitsch as James Hurley is also pretty funny (in a bad way). I love when Kitsch and Vaughn try to act.

Yeah, 6 and 7 have been objectively good, though.

Whatever you want to say about True Detective season 2, there is clearly a huge David Lynch influence on it, not just Twin Peaks but Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, and Lost Highway.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

https://instagram.com/p/6BNNhxq8qB/

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.

Chairman Capone posted:

Whatever you want to say about True Detective season 2, there is clearly a huge David Lynch influence on it, not just Twin Peaks but Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, and Lost Highway.

Dude, those cross fades.

Season 2 is tits though.
A totally different show than season 1 maybe, but tits all the same.

Scandalous Wench
Aug 9, 2010

by Lowtax
Anyone else totally in love with the music from FWWM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XfpngHdCw

I got a real indication of a laugh coming on.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I wonder if the score was considered to be avant garde in 1991 because it sounds reaaaaal dated to the modern ear.

Sliquid
Feb 9, 2004

Be on, neon.
It sounded dated back in 1991, too, but it just had this familiarity about it that you couldn't quite place. Like something you've heard before, except there's something slightly off about it that it's not quite what it seems.

Much like the town of Twin Peaks.

Scandalous Wench posted:

Anyone else totally in love with the music from FWWM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XfpngHdCw

I got a real indication of a laugh coming on.

My copy of the soundtrack is on cassette, haven't listened to it in about 10 years.
This song is making me wish I was Bobby Briggs. Boots, flannel, leather jacket, 18 and no fucks to give.

RALF
Mar 15, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Season 2 of Twin Peaks had some badass tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g1ytVsEA3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z6F0QPd7D8

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
With all this soundtrack talk, I want to plug Silencio again -- a Pittsburgh band that just released its second album of sultry, dark lounge jazz, twangy surf, rockabilly, and more music inspired by David Lynch and Angelo Badalamenti.

Here is their first album on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Music-Inspired-Works-Angelo-Badalamenti/dp/B008O6DFSQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439148280&sr=8-1&keywords=silencio+lynch

And their new release, "She's Bad":
http://www.amazon.com/Shes-Bad-Silencio/dp/B00WMAZPEW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_340_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0E0W4K1999CYNCPWCD6H

And a sample, "Slow Sin Jazz," featuring the vocals of Dessa Poljak:
http://youtu.be/wE9_ISYS11Y

They play a lot of actual songs from Twin Peaks and other Lynch projects at their live shows, too.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

My favorite Twin Peaks song is still "Dance of the Dream Man".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKBRyNNW3u0

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Pretty much all the music in the finale is my favorite Twin Peaks music. A lot of good stuff there.

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008
This might have been discussed earlier, but there's actually a small "darkjazz"-movement of bands heavily inspired by Badalamenti's soundtracks and Lynch films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zl5vpy__dQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyORieDhpkg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awUsLrEb1EU

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


I've definitely posted about it before but the Pink Room theme is incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxlGtcW1Qg8

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



I love the Fantomas cover of the FWWM theme. It's bizarre and spooky.

I want Mike Patton to score a Lynch project. He's talked about how much he'd love to do that in the past, iirc.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

zoux posted:

I wonder if the score was considered to be avant garde in 1991 because it sounds reaaaaal dated to the modern ear.

I think that's kinda the point. Badalementi's music is simultaneously this sort of vintage pastiche while also absolutely capturing the mood of the scene. You can listen to the soundtrack and write down what it makes you feel, then go watch the show and see just how well that poo poo matches up.

This video should tell you everything you need to know about how TP/FWWM was scored:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXLEM8MhJo

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST
You can't really call it dated if modernity was never the aim, and I don't believe it was. The reason Lynch likes Badalamenti so much is he's rooted in a sensibility which is completely un-modern - classic Hollywood film scores, lounge jazz, doo wop. Nothing about the Twin Peaks music was designed to be cutting edge or contemporary, which is why it's so good. If anything does date it, it's the technology used, (the synth pads, etc) rather than actual music composition.

Compared to the way other TV shows from the same era were scored, it was pretty avant-garde. The previous two decades of US TV music had been dominated by Mike Post - virtually every big show of that period had a Post theme or score produced by his studio, and they all sound a particular way. And then in 1990 Twin Peaks comes along and the difference was basically like night and day, musically there really was nothing else like it around at the time.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
The music in Twin Peaks comes from an alternate universe where elevator music was perfected and allowed to become a new form of music.

God do I love it.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

Audrey's Dance is like one of those background jingles I think of when I think of the show, and BAM horns and then back to cool oboes and poo poo.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Has a drat good soundtrack.

I found out from my mom that she was really into twin peaks back when it aired, around when I was 4, which might explain my affinity for the show.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Yeah I couldn't get psyched about the third season until I knew Badalamenti was on board. He's as important an element as Lynch directing, IMO

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

crowoutofcontext posted:

Yeah I couldn't get psyched about the third season until I knew Badalamenti was on board. He's as important an element as Lynch directing, IMO

Right up there with Hitchcock/Herrman and Leone/Morricone as far as Director/Musician pairings go IMO.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

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crowoutofcontext posted:

Yeah I couldn't get psyched about the third season until I knew Badalamenti was on board. He's as important an element as Lynch directing, IMO

Forever this. I was excited, but this didn't feel right until Badalamenti was confirmed.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
My dad "watched" the show while it aired only because he liked the music. I was 12-13 when it aired and felt weird about watching it with him, so I'd watch it on the TV in the family room and he'd watch it in his bedroom, and I'd get so mad at him the next day when I was dying to talk about the latest episode and he'd have nothing to say because he never followed the story, just listened to the music.

He got the soundtrack as soon as it was released, and I remember many Sunday mornings waking up to the sound of him making breakfast downstairs while Badalamenti's iconic "dooo DOOOOO" theme played on the stereo.

Hell of a way to wake up.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

As well as the aforementioned "I'm Hurt Bad" my favorite tracks:

New Shoes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15IvsNf3CmE

Bookhouse Boys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVWEkfO07-c

Also love the "nostalgic version" of the title theme, the song that plays in the amazing scene where Ben Horne is muttering Shakespeare as he rewatches footage from his childhood.

Edit: OH here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiOaFbi20bc Pretty cheesy sounding in retrospect, but incredible in context and familiar with the melody.

Scandalous Wench
Aug 9, 2010

by Lowtax

crowoutofcontext posted:


Also love the "nostalgic version" of the title theme, the song that plays in the amazing scene where Ben Horne is muttering Shakespeare as he rewatches footage from his childhood.

Edit: OH here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiOaFbi20bc Pretty cheesy sounding in retrospect, but incredible in context and familiar with the melody.

I agree, and it's a very touching scene. One of my favorite moments of the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KkqAnemdMQ

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

If this isn't the thread for new Twin Peaks talk I apologize but Lynch is directing every episode of the new season.

quote:

Now that Showtime and David Lynch have settled their disputes about the new season of Twin Peaks, it’s full steam ahead for the network and the visionary series creator. Lynch will write and produce the revival series alongside Mark Frost, as well as direct all the episodes. Speaking to the press during the Showtime executive session, Showtime president David Nevins announced a September start date for Twin Peaks in the hopes that the series will debut in 2016.

While Nevins couldn’t confirm the exact amount of episodes, there will definitely be more than nine, which is what the series was originally planned and budgeted for, and why there was a delay in development. While Nevins was reluctant to provide any specifics about what to expect, he did promise answers to lingering questions from the original series run, a return for “familiar faces… as well as some big surprises.”

I also read that he's planning to write and direct all the episodes as one film and then turn them into individual episodes in editing.

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



zoux posted:

If this isn't the thread for new Twin Peaks talk I apologize but Lynch is directing every episode of the new season.


I also read that he's planning to write and direct all the episodes as one film and then turn them into individual episodes in editing.

The bluray should have the movie version so we can have an 18 hour Twin Peaks episode. Which I would try to watch in one sitting.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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Gary’s Answer

zoux posted:

If this isn't the thread for new Twin Peaks talk I apologize but Lynch is directing every episode of the new season.


I also read that he's planning to write and direct all the episodes as one film and then turn them into individual episodes in editing.

Doing the whole thing as one movie could either be really good or really bad. Like how Kill Bill ended up with all the action up front and all the talk at the back. Lynch is a more competent director than Tarantino, but if you're doing the whole thing with it in a continuous film in your head, I feel like that informs how you write and structure things in a way that will make it hard to convert into an episodic format.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Doing the whole thing as one movie could either be really good or really bad. Like how Kill Bill ended up with all the action up front and all the talk at the back. Lynch is a more competent director than Tarantino, but if you're doing the whole thing with it in a continuous film in your head, I feel like that informs how you write and structure things in a way that will make it hard to convert into an episodic format.

That's what I am thinking. Episodes tend to have natural stopping points but those points don't exist nearly so clearly in films if at all. I do have enormous faith in Lynch but it is difficult to envision.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
You can do it kind of do that. The wire managed to have multiple threads spread across episodes, threads other shows wouldve condensed into a single part. Somebody once described it as that an episodes starts halfway into the one youre watching and ends halfway into the next one.

But hopefully this entire season as a movie exists and we can watch it as a single ultra long episode.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
If we're talking about good Twin Peaks music this is up there imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bij6d-KU4aA

So rowdy.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


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SpookyLizard posted:

You can do it kind of do that. The wire managed to have multiple threads spread across episodes, threads other shows wouldve condensed into a single part. Somebody once described it as that an episodes starts halfway into the one youre watching and ends halfway into the next one.

But hopefully this entire season as a movie exists and we can watch it as a single ultra long episode.

Right, but writing a show that has serialized plot threads is different from writing a movie. You still pace and structure things differently. If each episode doesn't have a reasonable beginning, climax, and conclusion it's going to feel meandering and incomplete. Imagine Star Wars edited into 50 my items chunks. No matter how you mix things together, you're either going to be focusing on a single plot thread for a whole episode to keep things thematically consistent within the episode, or you're going to be combining events that happen out of sequence. In good TV, events involving disparate characters in the same episode still tie together thematically.

Obviously Lynch is brilliant, but if he sets put to write a movie and then edit it into TV, I worry he's gonna create something confusing and impenetrable, but not in the good way.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


I've decided to start watching this since it just popped up on Netflix (as in I just saw it on there). Do I need to watch the movie Fire Walk With Her or whatever before I hit play and probably binge through it in a day or two?

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Fire Walk with Me should definitely be watched after Twin Peaks, it's a prequel but relies on your knowledge of the series.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Party Boat posted:

Fire Walk with Me should definitely be watched after Twin Peaks, it's a prequel but relies on your knowledge of the series.

Yep it also ruins the mystery of Laura Palmer's death and a few things that are sequels to the series.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
TBF the show kind of also solves the mystery, despite Lynch's desires to the contrary.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

SpookyLizard posted:

TBF the show kind of also solves the mystery, despite Lynch's desires to the contrary.

Yeah but having it all spelled out for you takes away a bit of the fun

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I mean if David Lynch can edit a bunch of episodes from an unaired tv series and turn it into one of the best films of the 2000s, I'm sure he can do the reverse and turn a movie into a tv show.

SpookyLizard
Feb 17, 2009
True. The bits after as well kind of spell some stuff out in a way thats not so awesome.

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Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

SpookyLizard posted:

TBF the show kind of also solves the mystery, despite Lynch's desires to the contrary.

Well...the series finale kind of throws a wrench into the explanation the show gives for the murder, by having the Killer's Doppelganger claim they weren't actually the one that killed Laura, implying that it was purely the Killer themself, and the movie only continues to explore that idea to a degree.

Raxivace fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 13, 2015

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