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In our continuing series on how to kill all possible interest in your product, USA Today posted an interview with Carl Pei (co-founder of Oneplus). Best parts: He admits that NFC was cut because not a lot of people use it these days, but it will be important in 12-18 months. His reasoning? "By that time people will have moved on to the next device." He also mentioned that Oneplus is coming out with a second model this year, one that may or may not have higher specs than the Oneplus Two. His first response when he saw the new prototype was "holy s--- that's going to be my daily driver" So, just to recap - he thinks NFC is going to really important very soon but he thinks everyone will have bought a new phone in a year and a half, and that a second phone is launching this year with better specs. Join us next week for another installment of "How to Kill a Product Launch in the Shortest Amount of Time Possible" or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Howler Monkeys that Live in My Brain and Scream at Me All the TIme" http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/08/02/oneplus-carl-pei-interview/30947799/
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grack posted:He also mentioned that Oneplus is coming out with a second model this year, one that may or may not have higher specs than the Oneplus Two. His first response when he saw the new prototype was "holy s--- that's going to be my daily driver" Companies that Osborne themselves will never not be funny.
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Kafka Esq. posted:I read a comment somewhere that said you could format SDcards as system space with Android M, is that true? Wasn't that the storage model Windows Phone 7 used?
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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spincube posted:Wasn't that the storage model Windows Phone 7 used? Yes, it is. It's literally all drawback and no advantage but idiots love SD cards so now you get much slower, much less reliable storage that you'll have to pay for separately and now your removable storage is no longer removable. So much better than it was when things worked.
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grack posted:He admits that NFC was cut because not a lot of people use it these days, but it will be important in 12-18 months. His reasoning? "By that time people will have moved on to the next device." While we should expect a longer lifetime for a device that costs ~USD400 and has some of the latest specs, it's funny to quote this as "crazy" in a thread where the Moto G with 1 GB RAM is being praised and recommended for a week now.
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Cable posted:While we should expect a longer lifetime for a device that costs ~USD400 and has some of the latest specs, it's funny to quote this as "crazy" in a thread where the Moto G with 1 GB RAM is being praised and recommended for a week now. The difference is that the Moto G since 2013 never had the issues with half the specs the OnePlus had: Robust hardware on nicely packed stock android at half the price. Yes, it had (and has if you don't have access to MotoMaker) 1Gb of RAM, but you can actually buy it anywhere, have actual customer support, software updates and a good android experience.
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Aug 6, 2015 10:38
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Guillermus posted:The difference is that the Moto G since 2013 never had the issues with half the specs the OnePlus had: Robust hardware on nicely packed stock android at half the price. Yes, it had (and has if you don't have access to MotoMaker) 1Gb of RAM, but you can actually buy it anywhere, have actual customer support, software updates and a good android experience. This right here is where every Android falters and why the Motos keep getting recommended. The experience matters way more the spec sheet.
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Aug 6, 2015 10:43
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Cable posted:While we should expect a longer lifetime for a device that costs ~USD400 and has some of the latest specs, it's funny to quote this as "crazy" in a thread where the Moto G with 1 GB RAM is being praised and recommended for a week now. Is anyone actually recommending the 1gb ram moto g though? I see 2gb recommended but not 1. Edit: for the record, no one should get the 1gb, just spend the extra $
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Captain Yossarian posted:Is anyone actually recommending the 1gb ram moto g though? I see 2gb recommended but not 1. Oops, I'm in one of the countries where the 2GB RAM version will be offered at a later stage so that's why I might have gotten confused. For the record, I use a Moto G 2013 on a daily basis, but it's showing its age and it's barely usable now. I would like to buy something that lasts me more than 18 months, but that seems to be impossible nowadays...
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Cable posted:Oops, I'm in one of the countries where the 2GB RAM version will be offered at a later stage so that's why I might have gotten confused. Two years for a $200 phone is not a bad deal at all.
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It's that time of year for 2 second long blurry shaky cam prototype Nexus hardware videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8qdsWHHijA
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LastInLine posted:Yes, it is. It's literally all drawback and no advantage but idiots love SD cards so now you get much slower, much less reliable storage that you'll have to pay for separately and now your removable storage is no longer removable. So much better than it was when things worked. I have no problem with phones that don't have it, or paying more for the option to have enough memory. But if the phone in looking at has SD card support boy howdy am I going to take advantage of it
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LastInLine posted:Yes, it is. It's literally all drawback and no advantage but idiots love SD cards so now you get much slower, much less reliable storage that you'll have to pay for separately and now your removable storage is no longer removable. So much better than it was when things worked. It depends on what SD card you get (for speed), and also depends on "is this being written to a billion times a day". If phones supported the UHS-2 standard the speeds are blazing, but even in the UHS-1 spectrum you can get "90MB/sec" cards that are plenty fast. If all you're using it for is storage for media and a couple apps, I really doubt the card is going to become a liability quickly. I have a 32GB run of the mill sandisk card in my moto g right now and I have a couple of big apps loaded to it .. no slowdown I have noticed when launching them.
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Aug 6, 2015 14:29
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Moto G 2gb available for orders again. Order placed! 
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Robawesome posted:I'm in the market for a Dual Sim phone - is the Zenphone 2 the best bang for your buck right now? anybody?
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Cross post: I'm selling a Sprint HTC One m7 and s3 in SA Mart. If you live somewhere where you actually GET sprint service, they may be of some use to you! 
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LastInLine posted:Yes, it is. It's literally all drawback and no advantage but idiots love SD cards so now you get much slower, much less reliable storage that you'll have to pay for separately and now your removable storage is no longer removable. So much better than it was when things worked.
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Captain Yossarian posted:Cross post: I'm selling a Sprint HTC One m7 and s3 in SA Mart. If you live somewhere where you actually GET sprint service, they may be of some use to you! In strangely related news, I just signed up for Swappa to sell an M7 and S3. My prices are a bit higher than yours though. Average M7 sell price is around $150. I'll let you know if mine sells for $120.
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FistEnergy posted:Moto G 2gb available for orders again. Order placed! Showing up as Delayed Shipping at the moment. I'll wait until it's back at regular I think, but I believe I may be in for one.
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FistEnergy posted:In strangely related news, I just signed up for Swappa to sell an M7 and S3. My prices are a bit higher than yours though. Average M7 sell price is around $150. I'll let you know if mine sells for $120. Haha yes please let me know. I would rather deal with goons, but I understand swappa is normally pretty good too 
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New Factory Image LMY48I (5.1.1) for Nexus 5 https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#hammerhead fix for stagefright vulnerability
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Syrinxx posted:"Idiots" only love SD cards because hardware manufacturers still loving charge $50-100 for $1.75 worth of onboard NAND storage (32GB). So in summary gently caress phone manufacturers, I'd gladly take a Win7 semi-permanent SD card setup in Android M
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hotsauce posted:Just tried the app. It's neat and I know the developer needs to make money for his/her effort, but goodness are the in-app ads positively obtrusive. After every clean, ads blast you. Auto-play videos, images, all of it. I'll let him know, he's a friend of mine. He was a goon at one point but it's been ages since I've seen him post.
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Best Buy has the 8/1 Moto G in stock at regular prices - hopefully they'll start carrying the 16/2 version as well. My 2013 Moto X is SUPER unstable...I'd be tempted to pick up a Moto G since I doubt I'd notice much difference in speed, but it doesn't have NFC. 
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mAlfunkti0n posted:It depends on what SD card you get (for speed), and also depends on "is this being written to a billion times a day". But there's so much more that matters to storage than just maximum theoretical speed; it's the reason really techy sites like Anandtech bother to test a phone's NAND speeds under every possible scenario. An SD card can have a max sequential read speed of 50MB/sec, but what's its average throughput or non-sequential write speed? There are so many more variables with SD cards not only between classes but even how different manufacturer's cards in the same class perform that can lead to lovely performance. It's all seemingly minor technical details, but it can lead to inconsistent (at best) performance and a subpar experience, which is what ultimately matters. I totally understand if people don't just know this stuff off the bat (and my limited knowledge really comes from when I was dealing with an old G1/MyTouch 3G and trying to make my SD card system storage  so things may be different now), but there is an actual, measurable difference between NAND and SD.
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MC Hawking posted:Out of curiosity are there any real viable solutions to making your desktop a 'cloud storage server'? I've been wanting to move off dropbox for a while due to unreasonable "Desktop" and "cloud" are kind of at odds in this request. Cloud basically means you're still trusting a 3rd party with your dick pics.
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-edness, but I haven't really heard much about easily configurable solutions.
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MC Hawking posted:Out of curiosity are there any real viable solutions to making your desktop a 'cloud storage server'? I've been wanting to move off dropbox for a while due to unreasonable I've heard good things about OwnCloud but haven't spent the time to try it out.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08/06/snapdragon-820-leak-details-quad-core-hydra-cpu-and-adreno-530-gpu/ Here's some information on the Snapdragon 820 which will be out in early 2016.
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14nm FinFET basically confirms that Samsung is doing their fab work on it since I don't think TSMC has that capability yet. And I get to eat my own words since it guess they are going back to customized cores.
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ThermoPhysical posted:http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/08/06/snapdragon-820-leak-details-quad-core-hydra-cpu-and-adreno-530-gpu/ This is some cool poo poo.
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sleepwalkers posted:But there's so much more that matters to storage than just maximum theoretical speed; it's the reason really techy sites like Anandtech bother to test a phone's NAND speeds under every possible scenario. An SD card can have a max sequential read speed of 50MB/sec, but what's its average throughput or non-sequential write speed? There are so many more variables with SD cards not only between classes but even how different manufacturer's cards in the same class perform that can lead to lovely performance. I get this but again as I have stated, I am using a few of my apps on SD and do not notice a difference in speed. I am sure that is not he same for some apps but for the vast majority out there storage on SD would be just fine. I am happy to have a higher capacity phone, but given the SD card is there and for what I am using it for I really don't care one iota if the speed is lower. My photos/videos/music don't need super fast storage, they never have and never will.
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Maker Of Shoes posted:"Desktop" and "cloud" are kind of at odds in this request. Cloud basically means you're still trusting a 3rd party with your dick pics. FWIW, I'd pretty much trust anyone with my dick pics. Any other metric we should track this by?
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A cloud provider would be honoured to have my beautiful dick pics, next problem?
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IuniusBrutus posted:
That sucks, mine is still working great.
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Sooo, any word on 5.1 for 1st gen Moto G? I asked this about a week ago. 5.0.2 is redrawing like hell.
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MC Hawking posted:Out of curiosity are there any real viable solutions to making your desktop a 'cloud storage server'? I've been wanting to move off dropbox for a while due to unreasonable Bit torrent sync is pretty convenient.
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withoutclass posted:Bit torrent sync is pretty convenient. Bittorrent sync should do the job, but make sure you're backing up your desktop somewhere else if you care at all about preserving your dick pics. Crashplan is cheap and lets you manage your own encryption keys.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Sooo, any word on 5.1 for 1st gen Moto G? You can get 5.1 on a Moto G today for the low price of $219.99 
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http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/06/android-certifigate/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.checkpoint.capsulescanner Looks like there's another vulnerability out "Certiigate". There's even an app on the Play Store to see if you're vulnerable. Neither my Nexus 7 (2013) or Nexus 4 were vulnerable. This vulnerability can come from a side-loaded app, even if it looks legit. However, the vulnerability can also come from Play Store apps as well.
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