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Wait, is THAT the fishmech everyone's always bitching about? I'm sorry I engaged at all.
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Ignite Memories posted:Coulda fooled me, rear end in a top hat. Well you're clearly a dumb idiot but you can't help that can you?  I don't get it went doesn't anyone sent to hear my ideas???
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Nintendo Kid posted:There is no one to convert at Liberty University. Everyone's either true believers, or people who, after being forced to be around the true believers, no longer wants anything to do with their ideals but is forbidden from acting on it because the school will punish them for doing so. This may be an absurdly optimistic thing to post on the Something Awful Forums, but the binding of cultural conservatism to libertarian economic policy is not at all natural law and is in fact only a few decades old (the prosperity gospel is slightly older but is not actually the same thing, and it's regularly denounced by Protestants anyway). I am confident that there are a good number of Christians out there, especially people going to super-religious fundie college, who have some misgivings with making ultra-rich people richer.
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That's not even close to what I said. Sorry that I have actual experience with Liberty University folks and their problems, including helping closeted people that were forced to go there. Ignite Memories posted:Coulda fooled me, rear end in a top hat. What part of that is insulting? You're really reaching here, dude. Nagato posted:This may be an absurdly optimistic thing to post on the Something Awful Forums, but the binding of cultural conservatism to libertarian economic policy is only a few decades old (the prosperity gospel is slightly older but is not actually the same thing, and it's regularly denounced by Protestants anyway). I am confident that there are a good number of Christians out there, especially people going to super-religious fundie college, who have some misgivings with making ultra-rich people richer. The kind of Christians you're thinking about don't send their kids to a school that still bans "rock music" in the year 2015 and makes holding hands with someone you aren't married to a fineable offense. It bills itself as the college for Christians, yes, but in reality it's a very specific and twisted sort of Christian and most Christians are disgusted by it. There's no coincidence that the Bush administration kept trying to hire people from there. Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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so why is fishmech or w/e more important than Trump hat or the debate tonight? remind me again please
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meristem posted:Who's actually making these things? Undocumented immigrants working for sub minimum wage. He's a business man you know. JT Jag posted:Here's a cheap knockoff, money which I don't think actually goes to Donald Trump No gold thread on the knockoff. Buy real Trump merch for the real classy luxurious feel.
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Nintendo Kid posted:There is no one to convert at Liberty University. Everyone's either true believers, or people who, after being forced to be around the true believers, no longer wants anything to do with their ideals but is forbidden from acting on it because the school will punish them for doing so. Does liberty university control their right to vote? There really aren't as many "true believers" as cafeteria liberals like to believe. Many people on both "sides" have simply bought into the notion that THAT side is corrupt and full of hate, while THEIR side is pure and good. Showing that he (bernie) is an outsider, is willing to agree to disagree on certain issues, and earnestly try to persuade them will at worst impress some students and make them less hostile to financially liberal policies, and at best create new liberals willing to vote liberal and possibly escape the hosed up place that is Liberty U. This kind of extreme tribalism stands out to me specifically when talking about hillary and trump; Hillary has "evolved" past sipporting the iraq war, supporting our prison system, bending over for the oligarchy, and not giving a poo poo about social issues. Meanwhile other posts are bringing up opinions from Trump 20 years ago. (They're both worthless slimeballs who will not do anything in the interests of liberalism)
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Lastgirl posted:so why is fishmech or w/e more important than Trump hat or the debate tonight? he's the smartest boy in America, kid
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Hopefully we get four more pages of Bernie supporters being wildly petulant about a relatively mild criticism before the debate starts tonight, that would be fantastic.
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Aug 6, 2015 17:46
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Zelder posted:he's the smartest boy in America, kid well im very glad to have a genius grace us with his prescence on a dead comedy forum, we really could use the education imo
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Aug 6, 2015 17:47
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Zelder posted:he's the smartest boy in America, kid more like the most autistic boy in america
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Aug 6, 2015 17:49
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Nintendo Kid posted:That's not even close to what I said. Sorry that I have actual experience with Liberty University folks and their problems, including helping closeted people that were forced to go there. Wait wait I thought everyone at liberty university was unreachable and beyond help, and that's why Bernie shouldn't attend. Does this mean you're an intolerant racist b/c you admitted to helping someone from there? People can separate from their parents politics, even at a place like liberty university. If Bernie can reach evangelical kids he can change the game completely. You spent your entire post trying to find excuses to not bother with everything suggested on the last page of the thread. Sorry, but my quote isn't just close to what you said, it's exactly what you said with one hundredth of the word count. You're welcome. quote:What part of that is insulting? You're really reaching here, dude. The part where you backhandedly implied he was too stupid to understand the issue. quote:The kind of Christians you're thinking about don't send their kids to a school that still bans "rock music" in the year 2015 and makes holding hands with someone you aren't married to a fineable offense. 1. Students at these places get sent there, they don't, by and large, choose to go. They are still reachable. This event is speaking to students, not shitheaded parents. Students who are still deciding on their own politics. 2. ORU and BYU both had and have incredibly regressive policies. Liberty may just be the worst, but not by as much as you seem to think. ORU used to fine women for wearing pants and cutting their hair.
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Mirthless posted:Literally: "they're not ready to listen, and that's why we're shouldn't speak when they tell us they're ready to listen" Where did I say anything about it being unacceptable for Bernie Sanders to speak there? He can do whatever he wants. Personally, I don't think there's a single soul in the audience that will hear anything they don't want to hear, but if he wants to try talking to them he's welcome to do so. If LU actually invited Bernie Sanders to speak on their campus, then perhaps there is a spark of hope in the infinite blackness that is the evangelical right. My post was in response to someone saying we had to play nice with racists and misogynist shitheads. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Lastgirl posted:well im very glad to have a genius grace us with his prescence on a dead comedy forum, we really could use the education imo I always viewed him more like a rare animal in a safari. "Shush shush. I think I hear it. Yes, it's coming out of the grass. Shush..." *Fishmech comes stumbling out of the reeds and across the dirt road that lead deeper into the savanna* *The guide turned on the camera to catch its unusual territorial bellows* The Fishmech opened its mouth and as if from some unfathomably deep place a sound erupted. "wwwwWWWWWelll actually, if you knew anything about those charts you'd see you don't what you're talking about, child." "Ooooooohhh" *CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK*
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Stretch Marx posted:I always viewed him more like a rare animal in a safari. lol
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Stretch Marx posted:I always viewed him more like a rare animal in a safari. He's not rare.
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Federal Holiday for election day is stupid for 2 reasons: 1) The early voting reasons that have been outlined by previous posters 2) Some elections are meaningless. Case in point: Philadelphia has a "mayoral election" coming up this November. I say this in quotes because in a city with a 8-1 dem:rep voter registration, the real election was in May, so for large swaths of the country who live in lopsided districts, we need to make the primary a holiday as well. I also don't get the appeal of automatic registration. It takes 10 minutes once in your life, I can't imagine it's restricting anyone who wants to vote, the ability to do so. Let's work on early voting, and maybe someday in the distant future, voting by internet. Hell make it a smart phone APP, you'll see an 80% turnout overnight.
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Joementum posted:If you want one of those Make America Great Again hats, you can now get an official one for $25. Voting for him is one thing, but there's no way in hell I'm going to put a Trump Sign on my lawn or wear Trump swag in front of my neighbors. Unless they all do it first. My new 'hood isn't quite as diverse as it was in Lynchburg (Golf Course, decrepit old white people in literally every single other house on my street).
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The Nastier Nate posted:I also don't get the appeal of automatic registration. It takes 10 minutes once in your life, I can't imagine it's restricting anyone who wants to vote, the ability to do so. You'd be surprised how many people won't take that 10 minutes.
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Neurolimal posted:Does liberty university control their right to vote? They don't need to since they control everything else, can mandate attendance at events on short notice or risk getting expelled and all the rest. They banned any political group that isn't officially recognized by the university (under penalty of possible expulsion or suspension for a semester) decades back and banned the last non-Republican oriented group in 2009. Dude, I'm the one who's actually dealt with people from there. I get that you're some rando person who's never been there but you're grossly misunderstanding the place. As I've stated before, the only people who stick around are people who are forced into being there, and people who agree with the administration's draconian policies. You're not going to get any new support out of there, a single year spent living there is enough for you to figure out whether you like or hate hardcore Republican policy. Mirthless posted:Wait wait I thought everyone at liberty university was unreachable and beyond help, and that's why Bernie shouldn't attend. Does this mean you're an intolerant racist b/c you admitted to helping someone from there? It's really not my fault that you're horrible at reading. And the people who were going to ever separate from their parents' policies any time soon have already done so by the time they're at Liberty University. He's not going to convince anyone new. I didn't imply he was stupid, it's a common misconception among Americans that federal holidays are required to be observed by private business. No, a ton of them are happy to go, they're true believers. The rest are forced to go, they generally already hate the ideology, they're not going to be "converted" because they already hate everything the place stands for. Liberty still does fine women for looking "too mannish" bro. It is about the worst until you start getting into the really tiny ones that can be worse because no one hears about them.
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Alter Ego posted:
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Nuclearmonkee posted:He's not rare. But he is the loudest.
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Alter Ego posted:You'd be surprised how many people won't take that 10 minutes. I would be surprised if the people who didn't take those 10 minutes, who got automatically registered, actually showed up to vote.
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How do the gays recognize each-other on the down-low in public? There's got to be some way I can slyly determine whether or not my neighbors are pro-Trump and whether it's safe for me to buy Trump gear without them thinking I'm an insane racist.
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Longshot I know but, does anyone know any outlets or fox things that will be streaming debate audio?
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Talk of early voting isn't complete without making absentee voting available to all - hell, do what OR and WA do and make it all mail in. Only having dedicated polling places with limited hours is stupid.
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Miltank posted:Uh.. no it wasn't. Yeah, for real, I think I know what I was trying to say, and "being nice to racists" was not it.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Longshot I know but, does anyone know any outlets or fox things that will be streaming debate audio? Just stream FOX News Radio http://radio.foxnews.com/
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Nintendo Kid posted:There is no one to convert at Liberty University. Everyone's either true believers, or people who, after being forced to be around the true believers, no longer wants anything to do with their ideals but is forbidden from acting on it because the school will punish them for doing so. this is wrong. quote:It's really not my fault that you're horrible at reading. as is this. Most people who go to Liberty really dont give a poo poo about religion and would have 0 opinion on Liberty university's theology other than "a lot of their rules are annoying." A ton of people go there because it has open admissions and is dirt cheap for instate tuition, especially for a private college, especially locals. They also have a very expansive online education system, I work at a labor union in Maryland and a lady in our accounting department was taking classes there online. Liberty also employs a great deal of Lynchburg locals, and their children are allowed to go there free of charge. I used to party with Liberty students (who lived off campus) when I was attending a community college in Lynchburg, they still drink/smoke weed/have sex, despite what the 'rules' say, and nearly all of them would describe themselves as 'Christian,' but are certainly not 'true believers' in the sense that they really give a poo poo what Jerry Falwell Jr. thinks. And yes you can definitely transfer credits from Liberty, it is regionally accredited. big business man fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Longshot I know but, does anyone know any outlets or fox things that will be streaming debate audio? C-Span Radio perhaps?
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Chris Christie posted:whether it's safe for me to buy Trump gear without them thinking I'm an insane racist. Why, don't want them to know who to call the police on when a burning cross shows up on their lawn?
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Eagerly awaiting Trump revealing his body is composed of nanomachines before ripping Scott Walker in half on national TV
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Chris Christie posted:How do the gays recognize each-other on the down-low in public? There's got to be some way I can slyly determine whether or not my neighbors are pro-Trump and whether it's safe for me to buy Trump gear without them thinking I'm an insane racist. Put an american flag bandana in your back left pocket.
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this_is_hard posted:this is wrong. but fishmech read the wikipedia article!
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Maybe I'll try bringing up the debate in small talk, see where they go with it. That seems to be how old people do it. I recall a time I was visiting my parents, and my Dad (businessman) and one of his neighbors (literal rocket-scientist) had a conversation by the mailbox that kept progressively, but slowly, devolving from polite, intellectual discourse into far right extremism that made even me blush as they felt each-other out. It started out innocently enough with things like "things aren't going so well" and eventually ended up at "Well, Obama IS a Muslim, after all"
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The Nastier Nate posted:Federal Holiday for election day is stupid for 2 reasons: This is such a weird line of thinking. This is like saying they shouldn't pass laws to make police wear body cameras because it does not address every aspect of a multifaceted, deeply systemic problem. The Nastier Nate posted:2) Some elections are meaningless. Case in point: Philadelphia has a "mayoral election" coming up this November. I say this in quotes because in a city with a 8-1 dem:rep voter registration, the real election was in May, so for large swaths of the country who live in lopsided districts, we need to make the primary a holiday as well. I... agree with this? Voting should be as easy as possible for as many people as possible, and there should be MANY accessible avenues through which to do so. To say that improving one aspect should not be discussed because other aspects might make more of a difference completely ignores the possibility of making more than one improvement to the system. It's not like bills can only do one single thing. The Nastier Nate posted:It takes 10 minutes once in your life, Not that mandatory registration at 18 would fix this, but you DO have to re-register when you move to another state. Saying you only have to register once in your life seems disingenuous, because it assumes that you will never move. Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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There's a much better way to simplify voting you guys, all we have to do is move tax filing deadline from mid April to the beginning of November. Then, have people include their ballot with their tax filings. Simply record one vote for each of their candidate/amendment/etc. votes for every dollar of federal income tax liability they have. You're welcome.
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Best way to do it would be to just mandate 10hrs of PTO a year for elections only and allow people to choose how much they use for each election on their own. Extend early voting to prevent businesses from whining about coverage issues and it would work fine while also covering city, state and primary elections. If you can't do all of your elections in ten hours a year, you need to make your process more efficient.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Typically, the campaign of the candidate who is running behind the frontrunner calls for more debates, hoping that the debates will allow them to get ahead. There was literally a Bernie event yesterday for calling, faxing and writing the DNC for more debates.
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