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The Nastier Nate posted:Federal Holiday for election day is stupid for 2 reasons: You're stupid. The US has far too few federal holidays as it is. We should be adding like 5 more, and Election Day is a perfectly valid excuse for one of them.
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Just do vote-by-mail, which has been working great in Oregon for years.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:18
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this_is_hard posted:this is wrong. Fishmech is getting confused with Patrick Henry College, I think, which actually is what he thinks Liberty is. It was notorious for being a feeder into lower-level Bush administration positions and is not accredited by anyone except the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. It is also located in my hometown and I had some pretty good conversations with students there when I canvassed for Obama in 2008. Most of the ones I talked to were Ron Paul fans, interestingly enough.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:21
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this_is_hard posted:this is wrong. You're just reinforcing it. Either you're going there because you have to, and don't agree with what they push, or you're a true believer. Also I severely doubt the online education users are going to show up to rear end end of nowhere central VA to see the speech, so they're hardly relevant. NotWearingPants posted:You're stupid. What aren't you getting about the fact that federal holidays don't equal days private companies have to let you off work? Ignite Memories posted:
Due to the "motor voter" act from the 90s though, re-registering to vote is real easy when you move, so long as you're changing your driver's license. Of course, people still neglect to do it even though it's just a checkmark to opt in. It should really be changed to something you'd have to opt-out from.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:23
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I'm so terribly tempted to get a Make America Great Again hat.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:24
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Joementum posted:Just do vote-by-mail, which has been working great in Oregon for years. I keep forgetting other states don't have it. What is wrong with you people?
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Aug 6, 2015 18:24
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do you really want to trust the liberal POST OFFICE with your VOTE? they could commit fraud *defunds the post office more*
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Aug 6, 2015 18:25
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Abner Cadaver II posted:I keep forgetting other states don't have it. What is wrong with you people? Make voting easier for poor people and especially minorities?!
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Aug 6, 2015 18:25
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Nintendo Kid posted:What aren't you getting about the fact that federal holidays don't equal days private companies have to let you off work? And yet, maybe JUST MAYBE some organizations would observe the holiday, thus helping a nonzero amount of people to vote more easily.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:28
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Nintendo Kid posted:What aren't you getting about the fact that federal holidays don't equal days private companies have to let you off work? The part where it applies to federal employees and can be trivially extended to any private company which wants federal contracts. It's not as good as early voting or vote by mail, but it isn't toothless either.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:28
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I decided to listen to Rush Limbaugh today for the first time in YEARS. Apparently he is gung-ho on Trump. He's white-knighting him right now and defending him over the Clinton-phone call story. YESSSSSSSSS.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:29
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Abner Cadaver II posted:I keep forgetting other states don't have it. What is wrong with you people? Not everyone has a mailing address, so it's terribly unfair to the homeless. And what if the Patriarch/landlord/whoever forces everyone to vote a certain way? I've actually heard that very disingenuous argument from a republican who swore he was making it out of compassion. I had a friend who was a true believer in a very religious university with crazy rules. After two years of it, he saw all the negative consequences and went socially and economically liberal. Turns out telling 19 year olds they can't gently caress unless married leads to bad decisions and maybe having a staunchly anti-gay and anti-dancing policy while also having a musical theater program leads to issues.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:32
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Brannock posted:I'm so terribly tempted to get a Make America Great Again hat. join the club
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Aug 6, 2015 18:33
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Ignite Memories posted:And yet, maybe JUST MAYBE some organizations would observe the holiday, thus helping a nonzero amount of people to vote more easily. No, you don't understand, anything short of dragging CEOs into the street and executing them on Nov. 8th is a half measure and not even worth our time.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:36
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Kalman posted:The part where it applies to federal employees and can be trivially extended to any private company which wants federal contracts. It's not as good as early voting or vote by mail, but it isn't toothless either. It's got as much tooth as a 9 month old though. lovely retail jobs and the like are rarely federal contractors and they tend to be the ones whose employees have the most trouble getting time out to vote. Ignite Memories posted:And yet, maybe JUST MAYBE some organizations would observe the holiday, thus helping a nonzero amount of people to vote more easily. Or we could just have early voting like sane people, and then you don't have to hope and pray that your boss deigns to let you off? It's not like it's some sort of foreign concept, it's already present in multiple states, and it works great.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:37
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Ignite Memories posted:And yet, maybe JUST MAYBE some organizations would observe the holiday, thus helping a nonzero amount of people to vote more easily. Seriously, this is the dumbest argument. Will more than zero companies respect the federal holiday? If so, then it will help some people.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:37
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Chris Christie posted:I decided to listen to Rush Limbaugh today for the first time in YEARS. I thought you said you wouldn't vote for him for his stance on gun control
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Aug 6, 2015 18:39
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Nintendo Kid posted:Or we could just have early voting like sane people, and then you don't have to hope and pray that your boss deigns to let you off? It's not like it's some sort of foreign concept, it's already present in multiple states, and it works great. Nintendo Kid posted:Or we could just have early voting like sane people, Does the word "And" just not exist for you or something? The concept of one thing, but also, another thing?
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Aug 6, 2015 18:40
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Chris Christie posted:I decided to listen to Rush Limbaugh today for the first time in YEARS. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:40
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Nintendo Kid posted:What aren't you getting about the fact that federal holidays don't equal days private companies have to let you off work? Many/Most places at least give you overtime for working holidays
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Aug 6, 2015 18:43
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Alter Ego posted:You're going to give yourself an ulcer. Well it would be very Christie
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Aug 6, 2015 18:44
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The Nastier Nate posted:I would be surprised if the people who didn't take those 10 minutes, who got automatically registered, actually showed up to vote. If you could show up and register on voting day, that might be just about as good.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:44
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Mirthless posted:No, you don't understand, anything short of dragging CEOs into the street and executing them on Nov. 8th is a half measure and not even worth our time. Wait, no, stop it, I think part of me agrees with your strawman deep down.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:45
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Mirthless posted:anything short of dragging CEOs into the street and executing them on Nov. 8th is a half measure and not even worth our time. dont stop
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Aug 6, 2015 18:45
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Ignite Memories posted:Does the word "And" just not exist for you or something? The concept of one thing, but also, another thing? The other thing is a dumb idea. I don't want to do a useful thing and a thing that doesn't help the people who need help.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:46
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I think instead of buying a Donald trump hat, you should give Bernie Sanders $25, so that he can buy a Donald Trump hat for himself.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:48
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So voting should be easier to do, unless you want to do it in person, in which case it should not be easier to do.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:49
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If we are making voting day a federal holiday, move Election Day to sometime in August. The drought between Independence Day and Labor Day sucks.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:50
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mlmp08 posted:If we are making voting day a federal holiday, move Election Day to sometime in August. The drought between Independence Day and Labor Day sucks. Bonus, moving it to August will remind people that it's too loving hot and maybe we should vote for the guys who will do something about global warming
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Aug 6, 2015 18:52
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Combine it with a Tax Credit for businesses that let their employees off on voting day and you might just get a proposal to pass.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:52
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Ignite Memories posted:So voting should be easier to do, unless you want to do it in person, in which case it should not be easier to do. This is nobody's argument here, are you having a stroke? The entire point of early voting is that it's far easier to do it in person if it's something you can do seven days a week for weeks or months in advance, instead of something you can do for about 8-9 hours on a single day (if your state's really lovely).
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Aug 6, 2015 18:53
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When do the debate start and where can I watch it? Don't tell me I already missed it.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:54
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Kamrat posted:When do the debate start and where can I watch it? 5 and 9 PM today on fox news, and maybe on their website depending on who your isp is, and maybe some shady streaming sites.
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Kamrat posted:When do the debate start and where can I watch it? 5-6 p.m. ET – Republican Presidential Candidates Debate (bottom seven candidates), live from Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland 8:50-11 p.m. ET – Republican Presidential Candidates Debate (top ten candidates), live from Cleveland\ On FoxNews. Bonus: watching advice from Bernie Sanders: quote:Essentially, when you watch that debate, just imagine that you are one of the wealthiest people in this country and extremely greedy and selfish. You’re going to have ten candidates more or less talking about your needs and not the needs of working people.
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Nintendo Kid posted:This is nobody's argument here, are you having a stroke? Quite possibly, as your argument still makes no goddamn sense to me. Did a federal holiday kill your father or something? Do you hate it when poor people get time-and-a-half? Please elaborate on why it is not okay for Maybe Some People to get a day off, because "not everyone's job is gonna let them" seems like a really silly reason to be against that. Ignite Memories fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Aug 6, 2015 19:06
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I may not be home in time so I set my DVR for 9PM Fox News (360 on DirectTV for those of you that helps), I had to overwrite 6 episodes of Simpsons reruns but it's gonna be worth it to catch a few sick Trump burns. Not for the 5:00 one though...sorry kiddie table.
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Aug 6, 2015 19:06
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Give a credit to businesses whose employees HAVE voted. Businesses can submit the list of their employees and for every one that submitted a ballot, the business gets a credit. That would at least encourage SOME more voting. VanSandman posted:Combine it with a Tax Credit for businesses that let their employees off on voting day and you might just get a proposal to pass.
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Aug 6, 2015 19:07
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Ignite Memories posted:Quite possibly, as your argument still makes no goddamn sense to me. Did a federal holiday kill your father or something? Do you hate it when poor people get time-and-a-half? Holidays have "holy" right in the name, what are you, some kind of fundie Republican? Secular voting scheduling ONLY Abolish all holidays they are an insidious attack on our first amendment rights
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Nintendo Kid posted:5 and 9 PM today on fox news, and maybe on their website depending on who your isp is, and maybe some shady streaming sites. NotWearingPants posted:5-6 p.m. ET – Republican Presidential Candidates Debate (bottom seven candidates), live from Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland Ah, thanks! Hopefully they'll stream it to my country, going to be real fun. Definitely following Bernie's advice. 
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Right now in the election cycle reminds of me of one sunny afternoon in September 2012 watching the Bowling Green Falcons take on the Florida Gators in Gainesville. Though Florida had come into the game as heavy favorites, Bowling Green had come out with an early 7-0 lead to end the first quarter. Everyone was so excited, and it was truly awesome to watch as the former mighty Gators got pummeled by an underdog MAC, and it looked like a truly great upset might have been in the making. However, the initially bumbling Gators regained their footing. Though Bowling Green kept it close up to the fourth quarter, they were worn down by the Gators' superior athleticism and greater depth, and the thoroughly gassed Falcons were out of the game by the fourth quarter. The dream of a MAC team draining The Swamp had died. The world had righted itself, with the traditional power Florida handily on top and lowly Bowling Green grovelling below, just as everyone had predicted. We are in the first quarter, dreaming of big Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump upsets, as is the right of every spectator to this election, but it's a four quarter game. The world will right itself again and we will have Hillary and an establishment Republican, almost certainly regardless of what happens tonight.
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