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Count Chocula posted:Is there a place for general Silicon Valley weirdness that isn't DE? Coders getting harpoons as signing bonuses, that sort of thing? Or is that just YOSPOS? I do wish there was more discussion in general of the weird techno-utopian libertarianism of Silicon Valley. The merger of hippie ethics with big business will never stop being fascinating to me.
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There was a great ad for housemates wanted in the San-Fran area. It was this community house with shared food etc, but had requirements like "must have no tattoos, have never done drugs, be able to run a 3 minute mile, believe that Ayn Rand is the greatest visionary of our time".
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 06:51 |
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Woolie Wool posted:Earlier today, I posted this in the D&D version of this thread and it was ignored: And now I know there's another version of this thread! Woolie Wool posted:Neoreaction/Dork Enlightenment and their cousins over at LessWrong and satellites hate and fear culture. Certainly, they like their commodified pop culture, but more for its signifiers than for its content--many, perhaps the majority of these works have themes and messages that run directly against the sort of thought that underpins these movements. Of course, most obviously and inescapably, Eliezer Yudkowsky's nerd fanfic opus pretty much negates every premise, every theme, every moral of the actual Harry Potter book series, which features an antagonist whose name is French for "flight from death", whose all-consuming lust for immortal life has destroyed his ability to understand or experience even the slightest joy or human attachment. His followers believe in the inherent superiority of a group of people with natural, inherited gifts, even though the actual events of the story show that these people are in character no better, and frequently worse, than "Muggles" without these gifts. He is ultimately defeated by someone who has the natural talent but was raised by those who do not, and successfully integrates the his magical and Muggle sides into a mature identity, accepts his own mortality, and is willing to fight and die even for--especially for--the Muggles that according to Voldemort, he should see himself as innately superior to. Nailed it. You should post this in the Let's Read HPMOR thread. It sums up the problem with HPMOR brilliantly.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Nah, that's more or less on the money. Not that he's right, I haven't read his interpretation and am just going by what you say here, but it's very possible he conflates the two. I've had thanatophobia-induced panic attacks in the past, to the extent that it turned into depression as well. Hell, even until recently when I started up my medication again there were times when I couldn't read this thread without setting myself off. But when you get into a position where that fear is a dominating factor in your life, I can definitely see how you could project the specifics of your situation onto your interpretation of the book. But really, but f you're suffering to that extent the appropriate move is to talk with a psychiatrist, not joining a technology cult.
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Stung by accusations of the useless of their rationality skills in real life, a LessWronger sets up a rational discussion site for politics. You can imagine just how good it is, and the quality of proposals and responses. Because what the Internet was really lacking is another forum for young white technologists who think they're smart to argue about things they don't understand.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 16:52 |
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:There was a great ad for housemates wanted in the San-Fran area. It was this community house with shared food etc, but had requirements like "must have no tattoos, have never done drugs, be able to run a 3 minute mile, believe that Ayn Rand is the greatest visionary of our time". Now I'm trying to remember some geek mansion ad that I read about in one of these threads, it was pretty hilarious.
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 19:45 |
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It was a place called startup castle and it was more insane then I remember
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 22:53 |
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Disqualified if you ever attended two protests or more? Jesus Christ those are some reactionary fuckers. Don't want no people with actual opinions here!
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 23:22 |
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Politics is the mind-killer don'cha know. (see my earlier post on "apolitical" people tending to be smugly self-satisfied reactionaries)
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# ? Aug 5, 2015 23:51 |
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This post from /r/Anarcho_Capitalism is comedy black-and-gold all the way through.Some gibbering goddamn lunatic posted:I think the 'neoreactionaries' here are actually government plants / disinfo agents, be aware. Please see and save this before it's too late and gets removed. 46 upvotes at this moment. BONUS BEATS: "I just ask because I personally have defended pedophilia here, but often the people who I argue with accuse me of defending child rape, which is a complete straw man." "Having a sexual attraction to children is absolutely not the same thing as being a person who rapes children." "Pedophilia is the attraction to children, you are the one attaching actions to the attraction." edit: ELS reaction. divabot has a new favorite as of 00:03 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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ArchangeI posted:Disqualified if you ever attended two protests or more? Jesus Christ those are some reactionary fuckers. Don't want no people with actual opinions here! Also, no urban music.
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quote:Have been prescribed anything by a psychiatrist more than once Holy poo poo, isn't that an outright violation of the ADA and the Fair Housing Act? Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 01:45 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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In the glorious libertarian future, the ADA will be repealed and all discrimination will be legal as freedom of association.
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I was going to post "Who the gently caress is Karol Traven?" but I googled first and concluded she's the Dork Enlightenment version of Chicago Ted and is probably not a real person.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 02:09 |
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Everyone who says "cultural Marxism" should be forced at gunpoint to read Das Kapital and give a book report on it.neonnoodle posted:In the glorious libertarian future, the ADA will be repealed and all discrimination will be legal as freedom of association. Even better, the private security companies can use their psychiatric diagnoses as evidence of violent criminal tendencies and detain them in Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 02:11 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Zikan posted:It was a place called startup castle and it was more insane then I remember Half the questions are about lifestyle and health, and the remaining ones come down to "if you go missing, will anyone notice?" I'm not saying it's an organ harvesting setup, but you kinda have to wonder
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 02:15 |
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Zikan posted:It was a place called startup castle and it was more insane then I remember I know it's a restricted thing, buy I desperately want to see these guys' okcupid profiles. Edit: Now that I think about it, they're all probably just this but without the "top-class degree" requirement, and maybe some leniency on being dependent on parents. MizPiz has a new favorite as of 04:16 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Zikan posted:It was a place called startup castle and it was more insane then I remember So I take it that this is a honey pot run by the UN to gather all the most boring people in one place and gas them? I can't even image how a typical week would play out for someone who fit that bill.
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Zikan posted:It was a place called startup castle and it was more insane then I remember - no hitting your girlfriend in the shared areas; get a room!
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:So I take it that this is a honey pot run by the UN to gather all the most boring people in one place and gas them? I can't even image how a typical week would play out for someone who fit that bill. This whole thing is hilarious. * CNN on the founder, who basically knows precisely how his cult should be run * Hacker News on the original report, with a note from an ex-resident who notes that John and Katie fail that list themselves * Horror stories from former residents “living in the Hotel California, except we can’t even drink wine here” * Whoops, evicted! * Hacker News on the eviction. Apparently the town and landlord are just intolerant, right ... of intolerance!! Ha! Gotcha! Quotes Scott Alexander to this effect. Probably not neoreactionary. Crazy assholes who are most amusing from a distance, however. divabot has a new favorite as of 08:46 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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quote:We subsequently heard from several former residents of the Startup Castle, who described it as “a quasi-military situation” run by a former Chippendales dancer turned reality TV pirate, and compared it to “living in the Hotel California, except we can’t even drink wine here.”
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 10:36 |
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"Marijuana more than twice a year" is my favourite part. Its more insane than "Must not smoke marijuana". So you're allowed buy no more than 2 joints worth of weed for your allotted binannual toke?
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ArchangeI posted:Disqualified if you ever attended two protests or more? Jesus Christ those are some reactionary fuckers. Don't want no people with actual opinions here! The comments section at the fusion.net story is great. One detailed how the requirements are clearly for a black market organ harvesting operation. Several more were from Nathon Gunn, one of the founders - and several more pointed out that he exceeded his social media quota. And this one just sums this thread up: quote:That's assuming that the word "disrupt" means something in this context other than "deregulate existing industries so that tech moguls can make more money." e: lol, quote:I stayed at the House in September and October via Airbnb. Crazy doesn't even scratch the surface. Some of the residents are interesting, but the level of personal dysfunction in the folks running the show creates a hostile environment.
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Does the thought-leader/sky-marshal guy even meet the STEM degree requirement? Based on his apparent job history, that seems doubtful. I see that he was part of an app startup, but that doesn't really mean anything.
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divabot posted:As I just noted on the HPMOR thread: See this summary from Christopher Hallquist of Yudkowsky's explicitly anti-scientific stance, and Scott's blustering reply. Let none call Scott's reply utterly mindkilled or "my ingroup is good no matter what, you filthy apostate." Both of these guys actually studied philosophy; one uses it. Ah, here is good old su2su2u1 (Actual loving Scientist, Thank You Very Much) knocking it out of the park in backing up Hallquist's point with cites. Scott's arguments in favour of LessWrong are always equivocation (or "motte and bailey", to use his preferred neologism), but su3su2u1 doesn't put up with that poo poo: " the best of Yudkowsky’s writing repudiates the median Yudkowsky writing. (I don’t want to spend time on this, but I’ve previously written that carefully laying out map-vs-territory would completely undercut the quantum sequence)."
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Woolie Wool posted:Everyone who says "cultural Marxism" should be forced at gunpoint to read Das Kapital and give a book report on it. What up fellow poly sci student . Also, I'm fairly sure I saw a murderous grin on my professors face when he announced this at the beginning of the semester.
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 20:14 |
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Aurini obviously has read Capital. How else would he have found the line about how we need to rape wives and kill children to achieve communism? Duh!
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I'm not trying to add Gamergate poo poo into this thread, but I was reading this http://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/...sibly-imagined/ And lo and behold, there's Davis Ariuni behind this stupid "documentary". As was said, the venn diagram of GG, DE and MRA must be 3 circles on top of each other. Oh btw, does Ariuni have one of those magic cards? We are discussing this in a facebook group and people want to see it.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Aurini obviously has read Capital. How else would he have found the line about how we need to rape wives and kill children to achieve communism? Duh! I'm confused... I thought he was pro wives being sex slaves and murdering children, as long as the are the right ones.
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divabot posted:Ah, here is good old su2su2u1 (Actual loving Scientist, Thank You Very Much) knocking it out of the park in backing up Hallquist's point with cites. quote:Science is what hands us an unusually well-conducted meta-analysis proving that psi exists with p < 1.2 * 10^-10, crowning fifty years of parapsychological research that finds positive results about as often as not. Bayes is what tells us that parapsychology makes no sense, has an ungodly level of Kolmogorov complexity, and is going to require a heck of a lot more than a good meta-analysis before we accept it. Also, in Scott's Hallquist thing, there's this line: quote:When this has happened in the rationality community, I have tried again and again to politely but firmly correct these people.
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Tiberius Thyben posted:I'm confused... I thought he was pro wives being sex slaves and murdering children, as long as the are the right ones. No, he's cool with ubermensch like himself raping and beating their own wives; it's the dirty poors and non-whites raping and beating the ubermensch's wives that
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twistedmentat posted:Oh btw, does Ariuni have one of those magic cards? We are discussing this in a facebook group and people want to see it. Aurini is seen as a bit of a poser in the Neoreactionary community, like they think he tries too hard to be one of them. And when a group composed of Yudkowsky, Moldbug, Anissimov, Ted Beale and the like thinks you're trying too hard to be cool, you have truly reached the bottom of the poo poo-well.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Aurini is seen as a bit of a poser in the Neoreactionary community, like they think he tries too hard to be one of them. Anissimov did demand a RationalWiki article of his own. I told him there wasn't enough material and he needed to make videos, then he might be as famous as Aurini. He stopped asking. (I did reassure him that his opinions were every bit as horrible, but nobody had heard them and he really had to put in the effort, dear boy.) [and dear Lord, it's almost harder not to troll Anissimov than it is to troll him]
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divabot posted:Anissimov did demand a RationalWiki article of his own.
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DarklyDreaming posted:Aurini is seen as a bit of a poser in the Neoreactionary community, like they think he tries too hard to be one of them. tbf, Yudkwosky is more the person they really really want to join their lunch table than a permanent occupant
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divabot posted:Ah, here is good old su2su2u1 (Actual loving Scientist, Thank You Very Much) knocking it out of the park in backing up Hallquist's point with cites. Just look at this gem of a Yud quote su2su2u1 dug up. quote:A Bayesian superintelligence, hooked up to a webcam, would invent General Relativity as a hypothesis—perhaps not the dominant hypothesis, compared to Newtonian mechanics, but still a hypothesis under direct consideration—by the time it had seen the third frame of a falling apple. It might guess it from the first frame, if it saw the statics of a bent blade of grass. This is straight up angsty-teen power fantasy ("my AI is gonna be SO GOOD guys serious11!!!"), and it's so obviously a product of a proud-to-be-ignorant "autodidact". I'm no physicist but I did take undergrad physics for non majors which means I have at least a vague idea of how precise pre-relativity experimentation (eg Michelson-Morley) had to be to measure non-Newtonian effects and provide data useful to theorists. Super intelligence ain't gonna compensate for the fact that the signal you're looking for is waaaaay below the noise floor of that sensing system, especially when you're loudly proclaiming super AI will need only one data point. How does anybody take this guy seriously?
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# ? Aug 6, 2015 23:50 |
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You get in there as a teen who just became an atheist, and then you're too emotionally attached to its role in your life to ever really leave, even as you begin to admit more and more of Yud's writings are garbage.
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Guys, you're all forgetting that the future AI will have a webcam that's a lot better than what you have in your silly iPhones.
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What I like about that Yud quote is that the easy part is going to be building an AI that isn't hilariously awful at image recognition. Which has been one of the major hurdles of computer science since forever.
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