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Jimbot posted:I really like the Dune movie but I certainly wouldn't call it good. It was a case of it being less than the sum of its parts. I found the performances and everything visually in that film to be very compelling to watch. But the story just wasn't there and wasn't focused enough for a film. Frankly it would be incredibly hard to put that novel to film or even a series (scifi tried this and failed miserably). There's just a lot to it. Also, it's actually amazing how EASY of a read the first one is compared to God-Emperor.
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Aug 5, 2015 00:45
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To help us get back on track Jimquisition-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHpHAdYus04 A look at the studio behind Mighty Number 9's recent issues with Kickstarter. Stick around for the stinger to this one. Errant Signal-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7eCIkcMUdA A look at The Magic Circle, another game about making games. And SF Debries History of Comics series is up to part 10.
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Aug 5, 2015 00:51
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Beefstew posted:I thought the sci-fi channel version was alright in a "faithful adaptation earnestly attempted by your community theatre" sort of way. Yeah, the main thing I wanted for that version was to have a decent budget.
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Aug 5, 2015 00:51
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Beefstew posted:I thought the sci-fi channel version was alright in a "faithful adaptation earnestly attempted by your community theatre" sort of way. The Baron is loving great in that one, and their adaptation of Children was actually more tightly written than Herbert's. That's a pretty good description of the sci-fi series. I just found the performances to be incredibly dull (for the original. I never saw Children). The Dune novels lost me when they Herbert decided that politics and world-building was more important then protagonists and decided to have one novel take place thousands of years later, so all the characters we knew of and cared for were long gone.
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Aug 5, 2015 01:13
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Jimbot posted:That's a pretty good description of the sci-fi series. I just found the performances to be incredibly dull (for the original. I never saw Children). The Dune novels lost me when they Herbert decided that politics and world-building was more important then protagonists and decided to have one novel take place thousands of years later, so all the characters we knew of and cared for were long gone. Well you always had Duncan Idaho to fall back on.
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Jimbot posted:That's a pretty good description of the sci-fi series. I just found the performances to be incredibly dull (for the original. I never saw Children). The Dune novels lost me when they Herbert decided that politics and world-building was more important then protagonists and decided to have one novel take place thousands of years later, so all the characters we knew of and cared for were long gone. God Emperor is amazing. Nothing after that matters. And I thought Messiah was a great character study and commentary on depression as well as the lovely pitfalls of democracy, though it was decidedly less "epic" than the original. The ending is also fantastic. Children was kind of a mess through and through, with the only good part being Alia's wackiness. Beefstew fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Aug 5, 2015 |
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Aug 5, 2015 01:45
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Beefstew posted:God Emperor is amazing. Nothing after that matters. And I thought Messiah was a great character study and commentary on depression as well as the lovely pitfalls of democracy, though it was decidedly less "epic" than the original. The ending is also fantastic. Children was kind of a mess through and through, with the only good part being Alia's wackiness. I also liked the Prophet in Children.
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Aug 5, 2015 04:01
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emeriin posted:She got a lot of fanboys telling her she didn't get it, but she removed it because it wasn't up to her standards. Or something to that effect. Nah if I remember correctly, it was more like she hadn't read the book and tried to use the criticisms against the movie on the book and people called her out on it .
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Aug 5, 2015 04:20
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Lindsay's Dune video was lazy and inaccurate. (I saw it so I remember.) Fans - most of whom admit that the film is very flawed and most of whom couldn't be classed as "fanboys" - rightfully complained that she had misrepresented the narrative complications of the film for cheap laughs. She doesn't do sci-fi much (or at all) and she went for a low-hanging fruit ("Dune! Hurr hurr! What a dumb movie!"), which took her out of her area of specialism - not necessarily a problem. It wasn't a case of bullying or nerd sperging but of a producer getting caught out misrepresenting subject material. (And no, you don't need to have read the book to understand the film, though it helps.) I am sure there were idiots who handled the matter badly but their objections were well founded. I watched Lindsay's videos and like them on the whole but that was a genuinely bad review. It wasn't that I disagreed with her slant - this is a mess, it is kind of absurd, Dune is not a great movie - in fact I agree (to a lesser degree) with it. But she overstated this for laughs and misrepresented the film. That is unforgiveable and really out of character for a reviewer I have a lot of respect for.
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Aug 5, 2015 09:01
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Another fortnight, another review from the Nostalgia Critic where it's night impossible to get through the opening skit. I can put up with bad skits but it was almost five minutes long, someone like Phelous is only really like a minute-minute and a half at most.
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Aug 5, 2015 09:07
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MonsieurChoc posted:I also liked the Prophet in Children. The problem with him is it shits all over the ending of Messiah. Paul should have died in that book. Well, I guess he kind of did in a spiritual sense, and the Preacher is really a ghostly figure anyway, haunting Alia's regime, but I dunno... I think it would have been better if he was someone who wasn't Paul but came to the same conclusion as him, which adds an extra bit of irony in that people are still following him as they deconstruct his old regime in his name. Also, his supposed capture and manipulation by Jacurutu was stupid; it's not that I don't believe they could overpower a blind old man, but I can't really see Paul having his will broken by those fucks after everything he survived. Leto is also an underwhelming character until he becomes Worm King, and I feel like his debate with the Preacher tries to make Paul's decision to save his own soul seem selfish and irresponsible, when really it was courageous and poetic, adding to the bittersweet ending of Messiah. However, it was cool that he died at the hands of the priests who once worshiped him, and the revelation of this completely undermines Alia's regime, but I attribute that element of the story more to Alia's craziness than anything else.
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Aug 5, 2015 09:46
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Didn't the Dune review also takes some styling form the Plinkett reviews or am I thinking of another one?
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Aug 5, 2015 21:07
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Lessail posted:Didn't the Dune review also takes some styling form the Plinkett reviews or am I thinking of another one? I'm pretty sure she borrowed the "how do you know that?" gag.
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Aug 5, 2015 21:27
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New Breaking Spines, it's "What Cops Know" by Connie Fletcher.
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Aug 5, 2015 23:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xbTzn89Qo So being angry and cursing a lot has become Bob's shtick now, I guess.. Its pretty interesting how every few years he reaches into a new low.
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Aug 6, 2015 15:35
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Archer666 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xbTzn89Qo That's actually kind of a bummer. I know this thread hates Bob and I admit I never actually watched an episode of the GameOverthinker, but what i always liked with his Big Picture and Escape to The Movies reviews is that they were actually not in the "angry dude screaming profanities " style. When he wasn't blinded by his own Nostlagia and fanboyism for Nintendo, he actualyl had some interesting things to say.
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Aug 6, 2015 16:04
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When Bob was talking about movies or comics he was generally fine and at least somewhat entertaining. It was only really video games where his interests were so narrow and defined by 80s pop culture as to be worthless.
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Aug 6, 2015 16:14
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Also the massive, overlong skits.
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Aug 6, 2015 17:03
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I only remember her talking a lot about Sting's...outfit...in Dune. I don't remember much else. I do remember being very annoyed at her LOTR review, which I think in hindsight looks even sillier given what happened with the Hobbit adaptation years later.
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Aug 6, 2015 17:27
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I only remember her talking a lot about Sting's...outfit...in Dune. I don't remember much else. I do remember being very annoyed at her LOTR review, which I think in hindsight looks even sillier given what happened with the Hobbit adaptation years later. How so?
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Aug 6, 2015 17:40
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The Vosgian Beast posted:How so? It's been ages and ages since I saw it, but I recall she was largely annoyed at things that the filmmakers didn't really have the ability to change. Like "why aren't there more principle female characters?" I recall was a big one--which is a fine enough criticism, except that the book was written in the 1940's and was of a very different cultural era/background to what the film existed in. They adapted the books fairly straight and cut out a lot of chaff, but I got the impression that Lindsey didn't particularly care about LOTR in the first place, and that she seemed to want Peter Jackson to have rewritten the plot to accomodate characters she wanted to see or something to that effect.. Then, the new Hobbit movies write in a brand new female character and devote a good hour of running time to her weird extraracial romance with a dwarf and I think at best people would say that segment was "not bad" and at worst "ridiculous padding that adds nothing". She got her wish, but it turns out that it wasn't a terribly good wish in the first place.
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Aug 6, 2015 17:58
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If Lindsay Ellis had any Hobbit-related wishes, they probably involved having it be 90 minutes contained within a single movie.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:07
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If I recall correctly Arwen's role was much larger in the films. And I believe Eowyn got more of a bigger role too (at the expense of Eomer). But it's been forever since I read any of those books so correct me if I'm wrong. Adaptations are a tricky thing, especially of older material.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:10
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Just a reminder that in 2 weeks Blip shuts down. If there are any videos you want to download and save, now's the time.
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Jimbot posted:If I recall correctly Arwen's role was much larger in the films. And I believe Eowyn got more of a bigger role too (at the expense of Eomer). But it's been forever since I read any of those books so correct me if I'm wrong. Adaptations are a tricky thing, especially of older material. Sounds about right. Arwen replaces a male elf who rescues Frodo from the Nazgul, and I think was nearly added to Helm's Deep. Eowyn I don't remember being too different from the books, though they may have elaborated more on her unrequited feelings for Aragorn.
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Aug 6, 2015 20:34
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Yeah, she was supposed to show up as the leader of the elves that come to Rohan's aide during the siege of Helm's Deep. However, they changed that making the entire reinforcement scene kinda pointless and leaving her out-of-nowhere badass appearance in Fellowship as kind of weirdly sticking out. Also, here they are: http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-6491677/ http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/lord-of-the-rings-the-two-towers-6500904 http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-lord-of-the-rings-return-of-the-king-part-1-6513810 http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-return-of-the-king-part-2-6519148 And honestly, I think they are pretty awsome. e X fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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Aug 6, 2015 20:45
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Arwen isn't really in the books very much - if I recall correctly, she has a handful of fairly brief appearances (I think her most prominent is actually in The Return of the King when she marries Aragorn) and most of her character and relationship with Aragorn was developed and explained in the appendices.
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e X posted:Yeah, she was supposed to show up as the leader of the elves that come to Rohan's aide during the siege of Helm's Deep. However, they changed that making the entire reinforcement scene kinda pointless and leaving her out-of-nowhere badass appearance in Fellowship as kind of weirdly sticking out.
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Terrible Opinions posted:In the books there were no elves at Helm's Deep. Yes?
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Aug 6, 2015 22:45
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If the Peter Jackson that made The Hobbit made Lord Of The Rings, we would have had a Fatty Bolger subplot that lasted for at least two movies.
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Aug 6, 2015 22:50
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e X posted:Yes? Yeah on rereading I completely misunderstood you. My bad.
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Leal posted:We may of also got Tom Bombadil. They should do a series of short films to showcase various cut bits of the LOTR and the Silmarillion, directed by different directors. David Lynch should direct the entire Tom Bombadil sequence.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:They should do a series of short films to showcase various cut bits of the LOTR and the Silmarillion, directed by different directors. I think one of the coolest LOTR-related things Lynch could do is a spinoff movie on Smeagol as he became Gollum. He could go surrealist as hell with that and it would just be pure unfiltered Lynch.
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Jsor posted:I think one of the coolest LOTR-related things Lynch could do is a spinoff movie on Smeagol as he became Gollum. He could go surrealist as hell with that and it would just be pure unfiltered Lynch. See, I'd go with a more traditional horror director for that. With Lynch, I always think he's at his best when he has a character dominating a conversation in a weird way. I'd imagine the Bombadil scene being exactly like meeting Ben in Blue Velvet, in his weird house with a harem of fat chicks, singing old show tunes and doing drug deals in the same breath.
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Archer666 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xbTzn89Qo The gently caress has Bob got against Miles Teller?
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Archer666 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22xbTzn89Qo God this really sucks to listen to. It's so pathetic and forced. He was getting a bit better but his Pixels, Genisys and now Fantastic 4 reviews are just basically just AVGN/Irate Gamer ripoffs.
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I mean he already fought an evil version of himself, that's a big step in being the Irate Gamer
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Keromaru5 posted:Sounds about right. Arwen replaces a male elf who rescues Frodo from the Nazgul, and I think was nearly added to Helm's Deep. Eowyn I don't remember being too different from the books, though they may have elaborated more on her unrequited feelings for Aragorn. There was an entire subplot in Return of the King where Eowyn nursed a badly wounded Faramir back to health and they fell in love. In the movie, it boiled down to "Faramir and Eowyn stand next to each other during the celebration for a one-second shot."
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