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Wowee, the New York is fairly inaccurate. At least when I land an HE shell, I can occasionally do 3k damage with a single shot. I nicked an Omaha with one shell and knocked out 2 guns, his rudder, AND his engine. Now if only CVs would stop sending everything they have at me (or stop existing)...
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Magni posted:Yeah, the 11in-armed Panzerschiffe are probalby going to be trading n DPM for alpha damage and penetration comapred to 8in cruisers. Culd work out pretty well and depends on how they balance it in detail. Where did you find the Mikasa at?
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psy.Che posted:I know you guys probably won't agree, but past tier 7 or so, AA gets absolutely ridiculous... can't sink poo poo in my Hiryu anymore because of all these Atlantas. Guarantee they are going to nerf AA again, everyone realised that you can play american cruisers and then not get hosed by sky cancer anymore so thats what everyone is doing. So then when everyone else's AA is nerfed in comparison to the top cruisers it's going to get really bad.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:13
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Magni posted:Yeah, the 11in-armed Panzerschiffe are probalby going to be trading n DPM for alpha damage and penetration comapred to 8in cruisers. Culd work out pretty well and depends on how they balance it in detail. It sounds cool at first until you realise this is exactly what the Colorado is to the New Mexico, and look how that worked out.
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Aug 6, 2015 18:17
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Darkmoon2k posted:I'm becoming convinced that being a skilled player in a battleship contributes less to a team's success than being a skilled cruiser. This is exactly how it works in world of tanks, the heavy slow tanks can't carry very well usually because unless you win your flank hard and fast you won't be able to help if anything goes wrong on another flank, but in the tier 10 medium tanks you can immediately respond whenever something starts to go wrong and get the game back on track. There are exceptions, since there are a few heavies with low ground pressure and decent speed but you still can't carry as hard as with a fast medium.
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Michi88 posted:Where did you find the Mikasa at? It's on sale for EU since yesterday.
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Magni posted:It's on sale for EU since yesterday. Ahhhh, guess it isn't on NA servers.
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ranbo das posted:German Cruiser line here  Vorkosigan posted:Ok, a few questions about that line. The T7 is, I assume, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Yorck. However, that was a Roon-class cruiser, which they've got at T9 The T7, T9 and T10 are almost certainly paper projects, with names made up by Wargaming. It makes it impossible to Google them. I imagine the tier 9 and 10 still have 8" range guns, but I have no evidence for that at all. I guess Yorck could be the M class, though it seems a bit weak for tier 7. Also while looking up German ships I noticed that the Admiral Hipper has about the same armor as the Furutaka. 
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Aug 6, 2015 18:24
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Nazis can't design ships for poo poo, news at 11.
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xthetenth posted:Nazis can't design ships for poo poo, news at 11. You just don't understand what an amazing ship the Bismark is! /sarcasm Seriously though i'm actually looking forward to the cruisers, might be a few good times in there, also i think i'm going to take a fog name, idk, I'm bored and i do dumb things while bored. /edit, had good luck this morning, convinced our team to meet the other deathball head on, and we won. I was top tier in Iowa, they had 2 NC. Michi88 fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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Groggy nard posted:The sheer number of Torpedo sperm your Kuma can orgasm forth is astoundingly enlightening to me and my USN "Penetration Confirmed" Turret Sperm Supremacy playstyle. Seriously, I only started the IJN cruisers like two days ago. I never considered to Kuma as anything "dangerous" when playing against it, but It's absolutely awesome. I mean, my last three games in Kuma. Three confederate, two High Calibre medals.    I have 10 confederates and 4 high calibres total  e: I just got the Furutaka, it's uh.. 
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ranbo das posted:German Cruiser line here Bismarck's not going to be the premium? That's... surprising. I guess Wargaming have already made so much dosh from the Atago that it doesn't really matter that the slightly less popular ship gets to be the premium. Well, hopefully they haven't taken out the torp launchers from the side of the Tirpitz. OSad fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Aug 6, 2015 |
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   Replay. So this match starts, I decide to hover around northwest looking for trouble with other destroyers. I manage to scrape a Nicholas up and destroy an Isokaze. The enemy team gets boxed in the north-ish region, with ships approaching from multiple sides. I spot the aircraft carriers on my side. Both of them, right there, just waiting to be taken. There were quite a few battleships around me though so while I did go for it, I didn't think I would make it very far. But the enemy team just lets me chase and hammer their carriers over and over again risk-free! I kill the Zuiho and start working on the Bogue, while his buddy Cleveland, which was right next to them, focuses a friendly Myogi of all things instead of me. So the Bogue dies, the Cleveland also goes down, enemy cap is secure, there's only a Wyoming left. There's two minutes and thirty seconds left on the clock, a Phoenix is capping, I ask him to stay on the cap or else we might lose by a draw. I get on the cap and notice the same Phoenix is shooting at the Wyoming, and ask him to stop since the Wyoming would not be able to see us in cap if he stopped shooting. Forty seconds left, the Phoenix is still shooting, but the Wyoming missed so whatever, we're still winning, but then the Phoenix, on his foolish quest to pepper a battleship at the end of the game with HE risking a loss, tunnel-visions right out of the cap. We draw. I was so loving salty. I would've played this match and then quit the game for the rest of the day on such a high note, but now I don't know if I should blame the Phoenix or this stupid game mode, or both. Now I'm having to drink gallons of water to try and contain the sodium chloride levels in my body. Just, gently caress normal game mode. gently caress it to hell and back.
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Aug 6, 2015 20:49
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xthetenth posted:Nazis can't design ships for poo poo, news at 11. I have to admit I was genuinely surprised when I noticed the Hipper had no extra armor over the first 8" heavy cruiser despite being two knots slower on twice the loving displacement. I knew the Nazis couldn't design ships but I somehow never noticed they were quite that bad. The best thing is that the projected Graf Zeppelin specifications make the Hipper look like a well designed ship. edit: but really, what were the Nazis doing with all that extra displacement on all their ships? Did they carry absurd amounts of fuel and ammunition or something?
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OSad posted:I was so loving salty. I would've played this match and then quit the game for the rest of the day on such a high note, but now I don't know if I should blame the Phoenix or this stupid game mode, or both. Now I'm having to drink gallons of water to try and contain the sodium chloride levels in my body. Just, gently caress normal game mode. gently caress it to hell and back. The standard game mode sucks. It's an infestation in many games: Mechwarrior:Online, Robocraftgame etc. all go for the 2 homecaps gamemode. For reasons... The same stupid draw poo poo in all games that use this game mode. Or both teams circle around the center and who's at the enemy cap first wins. Great game design.
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James Garfield posted:I have to admit I was genuinely surprised when I noticed the Hipper had no extra armor over the first 8" heavy cruiser despite being two knots slower on twice the loving displacement. I knew the Nazis couldn't design ships but I somehow never noticed they were quite that bad. Yeah. If you're going to be half again the weight of treaty cruisers at least have something to show for it.
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James Garfield posted:edit: but really, what were the Nazis doing with all that extra displacement on all their ships? Did they carry absurd amounts of fuel and ammunition or something? There was a bit of that. They designed pretty much everything for long range convoy raiding because that was the only realistic strategic objective their navy was going to pull off. They were also late to the party on all-or-nothing armour and dual purpose secondaries so that's a lot of wasted displacement as well.
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Aug 6, 2015 21:12
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Hmmmm yes getting instantly killed by battleships at max range, in two consecutive games is fun. No I did not drive in a straight line.
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This is perhaps the best quick recap of why and how nazi ship design went sideways. Choice quote:quote:For example, the new battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were found to be incapable of shooting their main guns in the autumn 1939. This could only be corrected after 22,000 yards (!) of useless electrical wires were removed and major modifications were made to the Fire Control circuits and mechanisms.
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Aug 6, 2015 21:31
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That legendary German efficiency and technical knowhow
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Finally ground through the South Carolina, and the Wyoming is a pretty good boat so far. Sure, it's slow and it's guns take half the match to traverse, but it's so satisfying when you citadel a ship with those huge shells and just watch their HP bar disappear. It also terrifies cruisers when you keep charging towards them instead of turning away when they start shelling you.
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God I'm incapable of having a good game today. I played like seven games in my Ibuki and I think I won two of them. One of those wins got me 648 xp. With the bonus, premium, and the xp flag.
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Aug 6, 2015 22:47
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Night and loving day with the Colorado and North Carolina. I get 21 hits in the Colorado I probably only get 30-40k total damage if that, 21 hits in the NC and I get almost 70k damage.
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Welp, just had this shitter mouth off to me on Two Brothers for following the lemmingtrain (I started on the flank in my Nagato and was the first one to go down there.) while he kept his Mutsuki well behind the american BBs coming down the same way. Then he spent the match having angry arguments with everyone while running into the corner and hiding. Pretty sure he didn't launch a single torp the whole match and did nothing except ignore a torp spread he could see from half a minute away and eat one for ~95% of his healthbar because using the rudder at all is hard. Also, he told me that he had totally done more for the team than me. 
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Aug 6, 2015 23:01
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I have a lot of bonus xp stored, is there a US battleship/cruiser I should spend it on in order to skip it? If so, which one- I dont want to suffer like I did for japanese battleships 
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Aug 6, 2015 23:21
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Kinetica posted:I have a lot of bonus xp stored, is there a US battleship/cruiser I should spend it on in order to skip it? If so, which one- I dont want to suffer like I did for japanese battleships Colorado no doubt if you go BB. I assume Pensacola if you go cruisers, but I dont know since I went up the BB line when I got halfway through the Cleveland. I've unlocked the Pensacola but havent bothered buying it.
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Kinetica posted:I have a lot of bonus xp stored, is there a US battleship/cruiser I should spend it on in order to skip it? If so, which one- I dont want to suffer like I did for japanese battleships Colorado. People complain about the Pepsicola, but you need to learn how to play it to have success with the other US CAs. Its also not really a bad ship, its just a different playstyle from the other US CAs up to that point. If you have the Aoba, you'll know what I mean. If you CV, you can also use the free xp to unlock whatever plane mod you want, so you don't have to grind the mod first with an inferior loadout, but in the US CVs the default loadout isn't bad for a long time. CVs make plenty of xp assuming you are running a strike loadout because they're OP as gently caress.
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Kinetica posted:I have a lot of bonus xp stored, is there a US battleship/cruiser I should spend it on in order to skip it? If so, which one- I dont want to suffer like I did for japanese battleships Yeah, I think the Colorado and Furutaka are the only stand-out "must skip as much as possible with free xp" ships. The stock Pensacola is rough but playable as long as you hang back (45 second turret traverse  ).
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What's the arming (minimum) range for torps? Is it the same for all torps? Pulled off a super ninja around-the-island surprise ambush on a carrier (knew where he was because i could see where his planes were) only to have my first spread not explode 
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Zo posted:What's the arming (minimum) range for torps? Is it the same for all torps? For ship mounted torpedoes, when you go into torpedo aiming mode, there should be green semicircles indicating your firing arc. They don't start immediately at your ship, though. Where the green arc starts, is when your torpedoes have armed. Firing and hitting something inside of that area will cause your torpedoes to hit to no effect.
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Should I bother upgrading Fire Control on my Kongo? I don't really feel the need to shoot beyond 18km but if it upgrades accuracy or something I'll grab it.
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Mahasamatman posted:Should I bother upgrading Fire Control on my Kongo? I don't really feel the need to shoot beyond 18km but if it upgrades accuracy or something I'll grab it. I believe it makes you more accurate, since I don't think dispersion changes and dispersion is more or less max-range accuracy. (I think? Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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One DD left in a standard match and he decided to force a draw after a once in a lifetime match. gently caress. Infuriating.
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Washout posted:This is exactly how it works in world of tanks, the heavy slow tanks can't carry very well usually because unless you win your flank hard and fast you won't be able to help if anything goes wrong on another flank, but in the tier 10 medium tanks you can immediately respond whenever something starts to go wrong and get the game back on track. There are exceptions, since there are a few heavies with low ground pressure and decent speed but you still can't carry as hard as with a fast medium.
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Moatman posted:I believe it makes you more accurate, since I don't think dispersion changes and dispersion is more or less max-range accuracy. (I think? Someone correct me if I'm wrong) Yep. Dispersion doesn't increase if your base range increases (unless it says so in the artillery tab, MAKE SURE TO CHECK!), so you'll be a bit more accurate at the same ranges as before, with the option of shooting further. This is arguably one of the more important things for a BB, due to their high dispersion.
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So I was wondering what kind of terrible player loses 1v1 to an Omaha while in a New Mexico, and I found someone with a 40% win rate. 
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It seems weird to judge a player's skill based on their win rate doesn't it? There's essentially nothing you can do on your own to win a match if your team decides it's going to lose in this game...
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El Disco posted:So I was wondering what kind of terrible player loses 1v1 to an Omaha while in a New Mexico, and I found someone with a 40% win rate.  ...  Small sample size, but still. Impressive nonetheless.
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OSad posted:
11k average damage on it.  Just to drive that home, I'm at ~41k average damage on the riverboat of DOOM. I'm pretty sure a Co-op bot could do more than 11k average on that boat if you threw the poor thing into the random battle queue. Magni fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Aug 7, 2015 |
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